THE NUTS HATE BUSH BUT WE LUVYA DUBYA: Beverly Hills AfterFreep Report!

Dec. 2, 2003

[Cinnamon Girl]

While the nuts were gathering in the Beverly Hilton for their childish "Hate Bush" meeting, the America-loving, President Bush-loving folks from all around were joining up with signs and cheers on Wilshire Boulevard, across the street from the hotel.

And it wasn't just us Freepers-- the very good looking College Republicans from Loyola Marymount, Ted Hayes, and other happy people who heard about the rally from all the talk shows today (thanks talk show hosts!) were out there with us. Signs were upbeat: "Luvya Dubya", "L.A. Loves W.", "Real Men Love G.W." (that was Outraged, who was dressed in his superman costume), "President Bush is My Hero", and of course there were lots of American Flags.

As RonDog waved with his big Mickey Mouse hand and we waved our signs chanting "President Bush!" and "Five More Years!" TONS of cars passed us, many of them HONKING THEIR HORNS in support-- much more than I had expected, actually. I keep wanting to believe that more and more people are rejecting the liberal trash in LA; my experience at rallies over the years suggests to me that there is a changing tide. Yes, we got a lot of middle fingers-- one of the most common forms of expression from liberals-- but on the BIRD-OMETER, with the rally in front NBC studios during the Al Gore hissy fit being a 10, this ranked a 4. At that rally we got a lot of screaming curse words as well, but at this one, the anger was actually WAY, WAY toned down with a few "He's an idiot" comments and 'thumbs down' but the RAGE wasn't there.

Lots of media showed up: KTLA 5, CBS 2, channels 9 and 11 as well, plus a CBS from Sacramento.

The energy was really good, and, although the Hate Bush attendees came in through the backway from the parking garage and avoided us, there were a few loitering in the lobby who could see us, and well, if they watch the news tonight, I guess they'll get an earful.

Look for pictures from Freeper "rantblogger."

P.S. I saw two people give us the finger with one hand, while holding their phones in the other-- while DRIVING.

[Lady In Blue]

You guys "done good"! hehehe!

[arasina]

Good one!

[arasina]

I saw the "mole" interview with O'Reilly and agree with you. He made it sound like it was an innocent strategy meeting or something, while at the same time attempted to convey info about its more sinister undertone. Perhaps he didn't want to totally bash it because he was worried about being blacklisted or becoming a victim of Arkancide.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...Exactly like our US vs THEM at the OSCARS Freep Rally in March helped bring about:

SUSAN SARANDON's being cancelled out of her $20,000 Speaking Engagement before a United Way of Tampa Bay Fundraiser in April

SUSAN SARANDON's being cancelled out of her Appearance at the Baseball Hall of Fame's 15th Anniversay of "BULL DURHAM" Conference 2 weeks later

MICHAEL MOORE's financial backing being cancelled by MEL GIBSON's ICON Productions for MOORE's Anti-BUSH Movie being made for Election 2004, with Friend of HILLARY Michael Eisner's Miramax Productions then taking up the funding slack

MARTIN SHEEN's being almost impeached out of 'The West Wing' with NBC almost cancelling it's 2004 TV Season

AARON SORKIN's quitting as Producer/Creater/Writer of 'The West Wing'


...our Enemy Within BUSH HATERS had their Clocks Cleaned before the American People this week in Beverly Hills by our "LUVYA DUBYA" Voices of CLARITY singng thru the Internet, Conservative Talk Radio/TV, and Broadcast News.

Freepers Rule 4-FREEDOM
CLARITY Wins

[RandallFlagg]

Like I've been saying for months now: We are a massive army, and it's time we engaged the enemy.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

..for...

..the Enemy is now Within...

..and always has been.

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

who is Heather Thomas?

[RonDog]

See also THIS article, from www.indystar.com:

Susan Estrich
Politics of hate won't beat Bush

December 4, 2003 

Anyone up for a "Hate Bush" meeting in Hollywood? Doesn't it sound like just the sort of thing conservatives would invent to make liberals look stupid and open the conservative spigots?

But this was no right-wing conspiracy. Matt Drudge may be the one selling the idea that Hollywood held a "Hate Bush" meeting, but he didn't come up with the title. This is a self-inflicted wound by another silly Hollywood liberal giving honest politics a bad name.

The meeting in question was chaired by two longtime Democratic operatives, Harold Ickes and Ellen Malcolm, who have recognized that whoever wins the Democratic nomination will be at a severe financial disadvantage as compared to the president.

The Republicans have an institutional advantage when it comes to raising money, because they are the party of business, and because they have a larger small-donor base; they also have an advantage because they control the White House and both houses of Congress.

So what are Democrats to do?

Under the new campaign finance laws, neither party is allowed to raise "soft" money. But independent groups can. So longtime Democrats have created two independent groups. One, headed by Ickes, focuses on providing media cover for the nominee beginning this spring, when the president is expected to start spending heavily; one headed by Malcolm and former AFL-CIO political director Steve Rosenthal will focus on field organizing in target states for the general election.

Invitations were sent to the usual Hollywood suspects, a collection of people with an interest in politics and money to give, to attend a meeting Tuesday with Ickes, Malcolm and Rosenthal. It was titled a "Meeting to Change the Leadership in America in 2004." Hardly worthy of Drudge.

Then Laurie David sent an e-mail forwarding invites to the "Hate Bush 12-2 Event," and the right went nuts.

Who is Laurie David? In news clips, she is identified as Larry David's wife. Who is Larry David? He's the star of "Curb Your Enthusiasm."

Maybe his wife should curb hers. It is only helping Republicans.

The way to defeat Bush is not to advertise how much you hate him. Hard-core ideologues who hate Bush are not going to decide this election. They'll vote for the Democrat, as they do every four years, but there aren't enough of them to elect a Democrat. You need swing voters to do that. Hatred may motivate the left to contribute money, but it is hardly an effective talking point for public consumption if you want to win elections.

Ari Emanuel, a talent agent who represents Larry David and whose brother served in the Clinton White House and now in Congress, knew just how bad the Drudge story was for Democrats. "People are assembling over a political issue -- the 2004 election," he told the press in response to the ruckus about hating Bush. "The invite didn't say 'Hate Bush,' and I don't think (the Drudge story) was productive."

Productive? I bet it produced a lot of money for George Bush. And worse, it helps produce votes for him.

The people whose votes Democrats will need to defeat George Bush don't hate him. On a personal level, they like him. They need to be convinced not to vote for him, for reasons that have to do with the war, or special interests or the economy. "Hate Bush" headlines do just the opposite.

Enemies are one thing, but with friends like Laurie David, the Democratic nominee is going to need all the help he can get.

Estrich is professor of law and political science at the University of Southern California. Contact her at sestrich@law.usc.edu

[piasa]

Anybody want a stray cat?

It just showed up around here recently, with its brother.

Unlike it's brother, and unlike my cat, this one's a total DemoCAT.

Yes, I said Democat.

Why do I call it that?

It's full of fluff;

It's stunningly stupid;

It's utterly useless;

It's loud and whiney;

And it can't fend for itself,

So it mooches.

It should run for the Democratic presidential nomination.

[risk]

Thanks for the ping, Ronnie. Great Americans in the past have criticized our country, for example Henry David Thoreau. HDT thought long and hard about his beliefs and he wrote eloquently. He even spent time in jail protesting the Mexican war. (Although I disagree with him.) But people like Sarandon, Robbins, Moore, and Sheen are like broken records believing that blind criticism is the same thing as patriotism. With nothing like an original thought in their empty heads, they belittle and ridicule our leaders. They set poor examples for our children, who could easily come to believe that protest is glamorous. If they read HDT, however, they would come to realize that this crop of America-hating movie stars are not going to be immortalized. They'll be forgotten like yesterday's trash within 20 years.

Here's a timeless picture of Walden pond, where HDT spent time writing. What would Moore or Sarandon think about the following HDT quote? I bet they'd be confused and dismayed. Less government? As in reduced taxes and fewer bureaucracies? Not in their wildest dreams.

This American government—what is it but a tradition, though a recent one, endeavoring to transmit itself unimpaired to posterity, but each instant losing some of its integrity? It has not the vitality and force of a single living man; for a single man can bend it to his will. It is a sort of wooden gun to the people themselves. But it is not the less necessary for this; for the people must have some complicated machinery or other, and hear its din, to satisfy that idea of government which they have. Governments show thus how successfully men can be imposed on, even impose on themselves, for their own advantage.

Civil Disobedience, part 1

[jocon307]

"It really sucks because Curb Your Enthusiasm is one of my favorite shows...now I can't watch it because Larry David let's his wife run off like this."

LOL, I was thinking about this actually. I think you could still watch, just imagine it as all part of the plot. And Larry would be feeling all beleaguered, as usual, because his wife is out of control, and alienating his fans.

[jocon307]

"Is re-electing Bush more important than good grades?"

Speaking as a mom,let me remind you, you can do both! You probably will just have to give socializing a little less of your attention. ; )

[JustPiper]

Bump and good yob Ronnie ;)

[JustPiper]

Love it!!!

[proud American in Canada]

bump! Fantastic!

[RonDog]

See also, from the Seattle Times:

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - Page updated at 12:00 A.M.

Guest columnist
Hollywood loses control of the political script

By Collin Levey
Special to The Times

Almost anyone in show business will tell you that technique can be learned, but comedy is a gift. This week, various B-list stars and political functionaries gathered in the Beverly Hilton to discuss the important role they will play in choosing the next president of the United States. In one narrow sense, the crowd was certainly "gifted" — though not necessarily intentionally so.

Dubbed the "Hate Bush" rally, the "mandatory" pow-wow was headed by the wife of Larry David, the man behind "Seinfeld" and more recently "Curb Your Enthusiasm."

"This is the most important meeting you can attend to prevent the advancement of the current extremist right-wing agenda," Laurie David wrote in a letter inviting attendees to the gathering.

Now, political action and fund raising have a grand history in Hollywood: Frank Sinatra and John Wayne were known for rubbing elbows with commanders in chief. And certainly, Bill Clinton's glory days did wonders for the relationship: Aging actresses got gravitas to go with their cleavage and metrosexual leading men (Warren Beatty, your BlackBerry is vibrating) could up their mental profile with policy talk.

In the event, Harold Ickes (a top Clinton fund-raiser), the Sierra Club and the founder of "Emily's List" were in the house at the Hilton on Tuesday night. No report on whether Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston were able to take time out from fixing the Middle East peace process to attend, but others did.

What brought out the stars is a major menace: Losing access is serious business in Tinseltown, and have you seen many stars gracing White House events lately? The millions of dollars in "soft money" Ickes has been gathering from show-business types is proof of a rare degree of political angst in Hollywood — symbolized by the humiliation of having its high-cost biopic of the Reagans, which had been headed for primetime CBS, banished to cable after the "right wing" worked the e-mail.

Amid such painful social demotion, no wonder Hollywood liberals are taking the lead in poking holes in the campaign-finance "reforms" that Hollywood liberals usually champion. Ickes aims to raise a whopping $80 million with his Media Fund, and by all accounts he's off to a good start.

More to the point, he explicitly, in so many words, invited attendees to help get around the new campaign-finance restrictions that Democrats themselves fought to enact. The avowed goal of these rules might have seemed aimed right at Hollywood — after all, isn't the purpose of finance reform to curb the influence of the rich in politics?

Of course, Hollywood rationalizes it isn't really "rich" — not in the sense of the slavering exploiters seen in typical movie portrayals of the upper classes. Hollywood may technically be rolling in more money than the average American can imagine, and is suitably immune from the concerns and constraints that living on a budget entails. But Hollywood's heart is pure working-class — at least in its own mind.

There's another, more amusing subtext to Hollywood celebrity distaste for the current occupant of the White House: They don't think he earned his position of power. In other words, he reminds them of themselves.

People's Sexiest Man Alive and erstwhile hotel-room wrecker Johnny Depp remarked that the president is "dumb. Like a dumb puppy... aggressive." Sean Penn, who has recently been planning to write a column for the San Francisco Chronicle, sees Halliburton and Cheney connections behind every rock — another Hollywood stereotype drawn more from movies than reality. Anybody who actually knows anything is aware that government is so bound up in rules and oversight as to make laughable the idea that the vice president could award a billion-dollar contract with a phone call.

But the most alarming revelation is the apparent belief by Hollywood that people out there are actually influenced by celebrity views on politics.

What must be Tinseltown's image of the average American? The evident loss of touch with reality is frightening in a class of people who assume they are the country's natural leaders. But then, isn't loss of touch with reality the nature of their profession, beginning with the very idea that so many botoxed and moisturized millionaires actually identify themselves as "artists"?

There are many talented and highly trained actors in the world, but most of them spend their lives as unknowns, working in summer stock and Off-Broadway productions. Hollywood's elite is beautiful and lucky, but the few who are actually talented, creative and disciplined (see Dustin Hoffman) are a small category. You'd think they'd work on improving their own output before pretending to know how to run the country.

Collin Levey writes regularly for editorial pages of The Times. E-mail her at clevey@seattletimes.com

Copyright © 2003 The Seattle Times Company

[dinasour]

It looks like HATE BUSH Event Coverage will be the last segment on tonight's 'SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY.'

SCREEN CAPTURES, please - ping!

I taped it, but didn't see any FReepers. Just some 'rat talking head saying how nice they are.

If anyone gets any intelligence about when it might be shown, let me know and I can get a clip.

[RonDog]

See also from www.variety.com:

Posted: Wed., Dec. 3, 2003, 7:52pm PT

H'wood's newest key demos?
Act, Media Fund go after celeb coin
 

By GABRIEL SNYDER

By the time they arrived at the Beverly Hilton on Tuesday evening, Hollywood political activists had already waded into a talk-radio fueled debate over whether they "hate" President George W. Bush or merely really, really dislike his policies....

WANT TO READ THE WHOLE STORY? - you have to PAY to be a subscriber. :(

[RonDog]

I taped it, but didn't see any FReepers. Just some 'rat talking head saying how nice they are.

If anyone gets any intelligence about when it might be shown, let me know and I can get a clip.

Thank you, dinasour (and DoughtyOne) - for staying up so late to chase after this "wild goose."

We will get it NEXT time - whenever that is. :o)

[mountaineer]

Any chance Hillary stealthily participated in the hatefest, considering she had to go to L.A. anyway to be honored by an enviro group on Wed. (story here)?