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Death Sentence Imposed on DC Sniper John Muhammed
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| 11/24/2003
| Fox News
Posted on 11/24/2003 7:35:06 AM PST by Catspaw
The decision of the jury will be announced within 15 minutes.
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dcsniper; homosexualvice; johnallenmuhammad; massmurder; muhammad; muhammadtrial; sniper; sniperjury; snipermuhammad; terrorism; terrorist
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To: Prime Choice
Does that include cases that are appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court of the United States? I have a feeling the Left will be milking the appeal process all the way up to (and including) that. The article didn't say, but I would bet not. You're probably right about the Left milking this all the way to the top.
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posted on
11/24/2003 10:42:18 AM PST
by
MindyW
To: Carolinamom
It is interesting that most people want him to feel something... I can't tell you how true it is that he needs to feel something... It is too late for him to understand the consequences of his actions but this brings me back to something I heard once..."True evil is the complete lack of empathy!" I will wonder for quite some time what makes a person kill an innocent person they do not know from a distance (that may be a combination of cowardice and hostility)...
Well, we will have plenty of opportunities to discuss it... I do have the feeling that as time goes by, Mr. Muhammad is going to come to Jesus... It is just sad that so many people had to die for his enlightenment....
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posted on
11/24/2003 10:44:37 AM PST
by
dwd1
(M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
To: MinuteGal
I think you have better odds of winning a blackjack hand when you hit 16....
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posted on
11/24/2003 10:46:13 AM PST
by
dwd1
(M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
To: kevkrom
I think he is going to be in one of those high security places... 23 hours a day... No visitors...etc...
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posted on
11/24/2003 10:47:18 AM PST
by
dwd1
(M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
To: Fred Mertz
Yes, the actual car, and a mock-up are here for both the Muhammad and Malvo trials. Evidence was presented in the sentencing phase of the Muhammad trial that maps with "good locations" in the Hampton Roads area were found in the snipers' possession. Both had intended to continue their reign of terror down here.
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posted on
11/24/2003 10:53:40 AM PST
by
tob2
(Old Fossil and proud of it!)
To: dwd1
His next appeal will be that he had ineffective counsel in the initial phases of his trial, and thus had to fire his first counsel (HIMSELF!!!!), so he is appealing that he was a stupid counsel, ineffective, and thus got him, the client, convicted!!!!
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posted on
11/24/2003 10:56:49 AM PST
by
RetiredArmy
(We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
To: RetiredArmy
His attorney objected, the judge strongly advised against it, and he would have to prove (once convicted, the burden shifts to him) that during the brief time that he acted in his own defense (and I believe his attorneys were still available and provided counsel), he did something that irreparably damaged his case... Without that, he is (what is that we like to spread jelly on in the morning? Oh! Yes!) toast!!!....
And I still think he is going to experience an unexpected decline in health if he is not well protected.... This will make his appeal a moot point...
And I am not sure he is going to have anyone stepping up to say, "Free this unjustly imprisoned man!"
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posted on
11/24/2003 11:02:29 AM PST
by
dwd1
(M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
To: RetiredArmy
It's sort of a catch 22... If he had not been allowed to represent himself, he would appealed stating that he was not represented in the way he wanted to be... Since he was allowed to, he will be able to appeal citing inadequate counsel...
I don't think he has a case...
And he did not make any of the hard or circumstantial evidence against him stronger, weaker, or irrelevant... He simply got to have a "Perry Mason" moment...The moment is over and he is headed for his just reward...
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posted on
11/24/2003 11:08:37 AM PST
by
dwd1
(M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
To: gridlock
Re: equating people to animals...
I do agree with you in treating people "like animals". First, I think it is important to understand that John Mohammed did not behave like an animal... he behaved like an evil human being. As much as we more sophisticated and morally superior humans want to deny that one of our species could behave in such a manner, the sad fact is... sin resides in all of us. Its too easy to brush off the evil doers among us as "animals". I think its very important for all of us to realize that human beings can and do behave in the most debase manner.
Secondly, this cannot be equated with putting down an animal. This should be seen as a moral society reacting to an evil member in the sanest way possible, and that is by eliminating that member from the very society he corrupts. We have to say as a moral people, that we will not tolerate this reprehensible behaviour by another human.
Leave the animals out of it... they don't care anyway.
To: MindyW
whats with all the pictures of this depraved piece of human waste.
tie his hands behind his back and push him into a kennel of hungry rottweilers.
To: quark
Virginia: #2 behind Texas in dispatching slime such as the D.C. area snipers. Get the "special juice" ready. Not according to the DOJ. Virginia is down the list a ways - but still on it. By actual executions Tx is #1 and OK is #2, by per capita: OK is #1, MO (6/5.6 mil.) is #2(7/3.5 million) but TX 13/21.0 Mil.) and VA (4/7.2 mil.) are still on the list.
From the DOJ statistics site: "In 2002, 71 persons in 13 States were executed -- 33 in Texas; 7 in Oklahoma, 6 in Missouri; 4 each in Georgia and Virginia, 3 each in Florida, South Carolina, and Ohio; 2 each in Alabama, Mississippi, and North Carolina; and 1 each in Louisiana and California."
To: YankeeinOkieville
just caught that: TX (33/21 mil.) still behind OK - as is their football team.
To: Catspaw; MeeknMing
Thankfully, he was tried in a yankee court.
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posted on
11/24/2003 11:42:21 AM PST
by
onyx
To: gridlock; Peach
<< I am very nearly an anti-death penalty absolutist.
This guy is the case that makes it difficult for me. I will have a very difficult time being upset if this jury comes back with the death penalty.
So much for [My] principled position! >>
My sentiments precisely.
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posted on
11/24/2003 11:47:54 AM PST
by
Brian Allen
( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
To: YankeeinOkieville
Good statistics. The ranking I cite is total number of executions since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976: #1 Texas with 310; #2 Virginia with 89. Your numbers deal with per capita rates and the number of executions by state in 2002. We're on the same wavelength.
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posted on
11/24/2003 12:01:48 PM PST
by
quark
To: dwd1; All
I read Evil of the Lie 20 years ago and still holds the best description of evil today IMO
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posted on
11/24/2003 12:47:35 PM PST
by
JustPiper
(For Cooper and Logan - You are well-loved)
To: JustPiper
What does it say?
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posted on
11/24/2003 12:50:57 PM PST
by
dwd1
(M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
To: Catspaw
That means the 18 year old will be saved from the death penalty.
To: MEG33
I think if ever a man deserved death,this is the man. This one, and his fellow!
I´m an opponant of the death penalty, but in these cases (more than one victim and motives like "just to kill" or "sexual satisfaction"), these f++king a$+es should FRY and burn in #ell!
THANK YOU JURY!!!
I wished we ´d have the death penalty for two murders of two young children in a well-known trial these days. :-(
To: Happy2BMe
Question: How many more of these jihad pervs are running around? Seeing what they did with a GI in Iraq, I think too many! :^(
One wishes that the offenders will be punished to a slow slow death!!
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