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Book exposes myth of ex-gay industry
The Detroit News ^ | Monday, November 17, 2003 | Deb Price

Posted on 11/17/2003 2:18:15 PM PST by presidio9

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:09:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

An all-star high school athlete, Wayne Besen couldn't imagine entering adulthood keeping something so significant as his sexual orientation a secret from his mom and dad.

He had successfully navigated the obstacle course many of us confronted as gay teens -- feeling confused and afraid about being gay; getting stuck on a merry-go-round of denial, shame, secrecy and damaging attempts to change; and then slowly embracing your sexual orientation as a treasured part of your identity, as unchangeable as eye color or height.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: exgays; heterosexualphobic; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; mediabias; notconsentingadults; onewaystreet; pc; politicalllycorrect; prisoners; sexualcuriosity; sexualizingchildren; smarmyliberals
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1 posted on 11/17/2003 2:18:15 PM PST by presidio9
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"The religious right loves to show the wedding pictures. But they never show the divorce papers."

I am not quite sure what the divorce rate is among the 'religious right." Anyone?

2 posted on 11/17/2003 2:26:14 PM PST by jsbankston
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To: presidio9
Terrified that their only child would contract AIDS, Wayne's parents were devastated. Soon, Besen's mother stumbled upon a cassette tape that promised to change gay people into heterosexuals.

These poor benighted fools. They should have done what Barbara Streisand did in similar circumstances: Let the kid get AIDS and blame Reagan for it.

3 posted on 11/17/2003 2:26:55 PM PST by madprof98
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To: presidio9
...feeling confused and afraid about being gay; getting stuck on a merry-go-round of denial, shame, secrecy and damaging attempts to change; and then slowly embracing your sexual orientation as a treasured part of your identity, as unchangeable as eye color or height.

Your supposed to feel SHAME instead of embrasing selfishness and perversion. By doing so gays think they have an excuse because they don't want to feel guilty about something they know is not right...

I really wish these perverts would catch a clue!

4 posted on 11/17/2003 2:30:08 PM PST by sirchtruth
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To: jsbankston
Probably higher than it is among other groups...It is quite a huge problem for the religious. But so what?

Accepting homosexuality is wrong no matter what the circumstances.

5 posted on 11/17/2003 2:33:47 PM PST by sirchtruth
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To: sirchtruth
Some "ex-gays" fortunately do manage to change, leaving the destructive "ex-gay" world to become self-respecting gay adults.

In this dyke's world, people trying to help confused kids are the bad guys.

6 posted on 11/17/2003 2:34:05 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: sirchtruth
Probably higher than it is among other groups...It is quite a huge problem for the religious.

Wha-chu-talkn-bout Willis?

7 posted on 11/17/2003 2:36:09 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
But will he make it easier for homosexuals to recruit those who might go straight if not seduced and preyed upon? Somehow we doubt it.
8 posted on 11/17/2003 2:38:28 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: presidio9
Men drink Gatorade and call each other "dude."


"That oughta fix you, dude!"
9 posted on 11/17/2003 2:38:53 PM PST by eastsider
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To: AmericanVictory
Whoops. That is, we doubt that he won't participate in preying upon the vulnerable.
10 posted on 11/17/2003 2:40:08 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: eastsider
Would have been funnier if it was Aikman...
11 posted on 11/17/2003 2:40:16 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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I am a heterosexual male. I have not had sex in almost three years. I don't like it, but that's the way it is. I would really rather not have sex again unless or until I find a way to be married. But I have a pretty good life. I run... a lot.

Now, tell me again what these deviants are saying about people who want to leave the "lifestyle" for religious reasons? There is more than homosexuality wrong with these people. They are sex addicts. S-E-X A-D-D-I-C-T-S. They ALL desperately need to recover from their sex addiction one day at a time. Their crazed rantings should get no more attention than those of an alcoholic in his cups or a heroin addict needing a fix.

Abstinence first, fellas. Then you can worry about your orientation later.
12 posted on 11/17/2003 2:42:15 PM PST by johnb838 (Majority Rule, Minority Rights. Not the other way around.)
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To: presidio9
Book exposes myth of ex-gay industry.

The chrome-vanadium toolset cartel?

13 posted on 11/17/2003 2:42:50 PM PST by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: presidio9
My! My! For a bunch that yammers ceaselessly about "tolerance" and "acceptance," these gay fascists and their media acolytes sure can't "tolerate", let alone "accept," that someone might not want to be "gay."
14 posted on 11/17/2003 2:43:47 PM PST by Map Kernow ("Go and sin no more")
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15 posted on 11/17/2003 2:44:29 PM PST by eastsider
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There is no such myth; many gays do change for good. Marriages fail all the time. As for 'ex-gays' going back to their perverted life style; well so do many 'ex-alcoholics' and 'ex-drug users' go back to their addictions.
16 posted on 11/17/2003 2:44:43 PM PST by gedeon3
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"Prayer partners sometimes turn into guilt-ridden sex buddies."

Its a foolish man who builds his house on the sand. Why would I want a prayer partner with the same sinful thoughts as I have? It would be like putting two sex addicts as prayer partners, its not going to work. I know AA does it but that is quite different as If I amtempted to drink I will likely not include anyone else let alone my accountability partner. A church support group should pair a homosexual man and a heterosexual man (or woman) as a prayer partner. Maybe if there is an alcholic who needs a prayer partner he or she can pair off with someone fighting a different sin.

Homosexuality is a sin, that being said its their sin to make I have my own sin to conted with but I do not celebrate it.

17 posted on 11/17/2003 2:47:19 PM PST by N3WBI3
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Talk to Focus on the Family. There ministry to gays has been very successful.

Please go to Love Won Out

18 posted on 11/17/2003 2:47:38 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: gedeon3
If they really want out they usually get back out. We have to expose the lie about this being a normal lifestyle. We have to expose it for the sickness & denial that it is.
19 posted on 11/17/2003 2:47:52 PM PST by johnb838 (Majority Rule, Minority Rights. Not the other way around.)
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So what you are saying is a sex addict can be gay or straight and their sexual orientation is irrelevant. Much like a drug addict. It does not matter if he is hooked on crack, heroin or prescription dugs he is still an addict?
20 posted on 11/17/2003 2:49:10 PM PST by jsbankston
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