Posted on 11/17/2003 10:28:07 AM PST by neverdem
The U.S. is alone.
Back in 1940 the publicly funded City College of New York offered a professorship to the English philosopher, freethinker, and atheist Bertrand Russell. When news of the appointment got out, prominent local clergymen objected on the grounds that as a "propagandist against religion and morality" Russell would corrupt the youth of the city. (A charge very similar, as numerous people pointed out at the time, to the one leveled against Socrates 2,338 years previously.)
A row ensued, of a kind that seems very quaint nowadays, when the syllabus of the average college is stuffed with courses on (to take some actual examples) "Abandonment to the Body's Desire" and "Queer Pedagogy in Law." Intellectuals mostly lined up with Russell — Einstein was a supporter — while churchmen whipped up the campaign against him. Russell lost at last and fled from the city. His parting shot was this: "Old York was the first place in the world where Christianity was the state religion. Let us hope that New York will be the last."
It was a clever remark, typically Russellian. However, as well as stretching ancient history — Constantine was indeed declared emperor at York, but the Roman Empire did not turn officially Christian until 18 years later, long after he had left Britain — Russell of course willfully misrepresented the place of religion in American life. New York, city or state, has no established religion, and the United States herself is forbidden by the Constitution from having one. Friends who understand the Constitution better than I do tell me that the 14th Amendment implies that states can't, either. Russell was not driven out by the power of the state, but by a populist campaign; and the basis of that campaign was the link between "religion and morality." Back then, there was a pretty widespread opinion that you could not have the second without the first.
Since the overwhelming majority of Americans in 1940 were Christians, we were in that sense a Christian nation. Even people who did not go to church were inclined to believe in a Deity who imposes moral order on the universe; to believe, in other words, that there is a certain way we are meant to live, and to that if we do not live that way, or at least give it our very best shot, we will suffer, in this world or the next. That moral order, most Americans further believed, was described in the Christian Bible.
Though there are many more Americans who do not go to church now, this is still a Christian nation in that same sense.** It may be the last Christian nation, in that or any other sense. The November 8 issue of The Economist (you need a subscription) ran a long feature titled "A Nation Apart," about the widening differences between the USA and the rest of the Western world. Sample quote: "American exceptionalism is nothing new, but it is getting sharper." The most striking illustration of American exceptionalism is a bar chart of polled responses to the statement: "Religion plays a very important role in my life." Nearly 60 percent of Americans responded affirmatively. The corresponding figures for other nations were: Britain — 33; Italy — 27; Germany — 21; France — 11. Among postindustrial non-Muslim nations, and ignoring one or two outliers like Buddhist Thailand, we are probably the most-religious people in the world.
Which explains a lot. For example, it goes some way to explaining the very noisy reception our president is going to get when he visits Britain this week — the first full-dress state visit by a U.S. president in the current monarch's reign. A lefty group calling itself the Stop the War Coalition plans to put 100,000 people on the streets of London next Thursday, and there are signs of panic in Prime Minister Blair's office. The customary ride to Buckingham Palace in an open car with the queen has already been canceled. (When Communist dictator Jiang Zemin paid a state visit in 1999, the open-car ride went ahead without any trouble, a small scattering of Tibetan and pro-democracy protesters being easily clubbed into submission by the London police.)
It is, of course, as Queen Elizabeth the First remarked, important to distinguish between the clamor of a faction and the voice of the people. There are good reasons to think, though, that next Thursday's demonstrators will speak, or yell, for a huge number of Britons. Asked by pollsters a few days ago if America poses a threat to world peace, 55 percent of respondents in Britain replied "Yes." This was actually more than in France (52) or Germany (45). We have got into the way of thinking that the U.S. and Britain are together here, the rest of the Western world there. In anti-Bush sentiment, though, as well as on the matter of religious faith, it is increasingly the case that Britain is over there with the others, not over here with us. And the two things are connected. If you talk to Britons about Bush, not many words are spoken before you hear expressions like "cloying religiosity," "sanctimonious self-righteousness," "Bible Belt fundamentalist," and so on. The antiwar sentiment we shall see on display in London next week is fueled largely by the idea that Britain is being dragged along in a moralistic crusade led by a dimwitted religious nut bent on converting the heathen at sword point.
Peter Hitchens has suggested that Britain might soon become an Islamic nation. This is not at all far-fetched, though I think some kind of Christian revival is also possible. I am not going to try to argue the general proposition that a nation can't cope for very long without a widespread religious faith, but in the particular case of Britain, history suggests this is true. The British have gone through quite long spells of irreligion, but have always returned to faith. The sixth century seems, at any rate to judge from the complaints of monks like Gildas, to have been very irreligious, yet Christianity eventually reasserted itself. The prosperity and social changes of the English Renaissance led to more backsliding; then came the Puritan revival, and Charles the Second's Britain was probably more religious than Elizabeth's had been. (Compare The Pilgrim's Progress with Shakespeare's plays.) The cynicism created by Anglican triumphalism in the early 18th century was dispelled by reformers like John Wesley. A hundred years later, the degradation and squalor of early industrialism was overcome by the Evangelical Movement.
The years since 1914 have seen a long and seemingly irreversible slide. The English people, wrote George Orwell in 1941, "have retained a deep tinge of Christian feeling, while almost forgetting the name of Christ." Sixty years further on, we see what happens to a once-Christian nation when that forgetting is complete. Britain is in a state of utter moral squalor. A few days ago, planning to write something about the royal family, I went browsing in the online versions of the British tabloids. It was a very depressing experience. Burning issues of the day: Is Prince Charles bisexual? Why did Britney Spears decline to discuss masturbation in a TV interview? Is Kylie Minogue's arse sexy or not? The entire atmosphere of these papers is one of infantile hedonism. Sure, I know we Yanks have our own supermarket tabloids, but this is something on a different scale: mass-circulation national daily newspapers filled with nothing — nothing! — but salacity and drivel. The New York tabloids — even the Daily News — are models of sobriety and intelligence by comparison.
The picture is not all monochrome, of course. There are pockets of traditional morality, even of Christianity, in Britain. The flap about Prince Charles and what he may or may not have done with one of his menservants illustrates that the destruction of old values is not yet quite complete. If it were, who would care what he did? The conditions made familiar to us by the writings of Theodore Dalrymple are not found everywhere. They are, though, increasingly representative of the British national psyche.
Conversely, infantile hedonism has a big following over here in the States. So does indifference or hostility to religion; so, of course, does Bush-hatred. Paul Krugman would be quite at home marching with the Stop the War Coalition next week. So would any number of other leading Americans.
The broad truth remains, though. Forget about Britain, forget about Europe. The United States is alone, as never before — alone with our values, alone with our patriotism (Economist poll: "Are you proud to be...?" American — 80 percent, British — 51, French — 35, German — 19), alone with our determination to take on evil lunatics in foreign parts, alone in our religious faith. I don't know how it came to this, and I don't know where it will end — nor even if it will last — but in the world of 2003, we are truly the exceptional nation.
— — — — — — — - ** It is considered more polite to say "Judeo-Christian," and I am fine with that. Since only around 4 percent of the U.S. population identifies themselves as Jewish, though, and only some lesser number are actually religious Jews, "Christian" is a good first approximation, and more apt for the theme I am exploring. Outside the tiny circle of obsessive Derbophobes, and that strange cohort of people for whom the taking of offense forms their main purpose in life, I can't imagine that anyone would take offense at what I am saying here. Certainly no offense to anyone is intended.
Don't overlook the fact that a quarter of the Earth's population may be reached from China. And if India follows suit (they rival one another to be the most "progressive"), half of the world's population may easily be exposed to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Exciting, isn't it?
Though isn't Brazil part of the g-8?
Though the ultimate Christian Country is actually the Vatican.
USA
UK
Italy
Japan
Russia
Germany
Canada
France
How long America's good fortune will hold out is difficult to say. Conservative evangelical Christians are the most likely target for persecution, followed by Catholics who hold to the pre-Vatican II positions of their church, observant Orthodox Jews, and the conservative elements in Mormonism. There are two regions that are major problems for the secularists: (1) the greater South (including Oklahoma, Kentucky, Missouri, and West Virginia) and adjacent areas to the north (Pennsylvania to Colorado) and (2) greater Utah (inclusive of Mormon dominated areas of Nevada and Idaho). When evangelicals in area (1) and Mormons in area (2) are relegated to minority status, America will move leftward at a rapid pace. Traditional Catholics lack a large geographic stonghold. Orthodox Jews have one, but it is 6,000 miles to the east of New York.
Even a Reaganesque rout of someone like Howard Dean by President Bush next year will only buy a little time in delaying the long march by secularists through American institutions.
The figures for Germany aren´t surprising. Due to its history, nearly all Germans have mixed feelings towards their country. They cannont be "proud" because this pride would also include their shameful history.
They don´t see that this pride would include the great shift to democracy and freedom, which last for more than 5 decades and counting.
As for the French: I also thought that more would be proud of their country.
I blew Brazil but Italy is more Christian than us
World Church Weekly Attendence
Nigeria 89 Ireland 84* Philippines 68 N. Ireland 58* Puerto Rico 52 South Africa 56 Poland 55 Portugal 47 Slovakia 47 Mexico 46 Italy 45 Dominican Republic 44 Belgium 44 U.S.A. 44 Turkey 43 Peru 43 India 42 Canada 38 Brazil 36 Netherlands 35* |
Venezuela 31 Uruguay 31 Austria 30* Chile 25 Argentina 25 Britain 27* Spain 25 Solvenia 22 Croatia 22 Hungary 21* France 21* Romania 20* South Korea 14 Switzerland 16 Australia 16 Lithuania 16 W. Germany 14 Czech Republic 14* Bulgaria 10* Ukraine 10 |
Taiwan 11 Moldova 10 Georgia 10 China 9 Armenia 8 Azerbaijan 6 Serbia 7 Montenegro 7 Belarus 6 Latvia 5 Denmark 5* Norway 5 East Germany 5 Sweden 4 Iceland 4* Finland 4 Estonia 4 Japan 3 Russia 2 |
| Source: Based on latest available data from the 1990-1991 or the 1995-1997 World Values surveys. Results with an asterisk are from the 1990-1991 survey; all others are from the 1995-1997 survey. | ||
Though I find that USA number to be way to high, I think people are lying on the phone or the numbers have collasped since 1995 because from the current US survey at
http://www.barna.org/cgi-bin/PagePressRelease.asp?PressReleaseID=149&Reference=B
Only 3 out of 10 twentysomethings (31%) attend church in a typical week, compared to 4 out of 10 of those in their 30s (42%) and nearly half of all adults age 40 and older (49%).
It's worth reiterating that our American values and perspectives and choices increasingly diverge from those of Europe.
We no longer have a shared worldview with Eurabia.
I agree with your premise.
Not widely known is that the majority of Christians in Indonesia are of Chinese ancestry, and they (along with the Timorese) suffered the the wrath of the Islamics there during the civil unrest recently.
The problem in France is not only the Muslims.
It is the French. I am not of the opinion that immigration from Liberal/Leftist Europe would be desirable.
Give me your Christian refugees from the Third World any day over most Europeans.
Yes it is !!!!
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