Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 14-18

Various | November 14, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

(Thread 8 - November 14-18)

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Link back to thread 7 (Nov. 11-14)

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Contained in Thread 7:

Radio interview with one of Michael's ex-girlfriends, transcript from CBS News Sunday Morning - Sunday 11-09-03 (Martha Teischner reports over a series of pre-recorded video clips in this news magazine's lead story...), possible link to collusion in the legal proceedings involving attorney George Felos (representing Michael Schiavo) and the neurologist Dr. Peter Bambakidis (court appointed, independent, examining physician), information on Judge Greer not being a judge, Tiger Bay Club Schiavo Debate Info, Michael Schiavo charged with perjured testimony, Michael Schiavo is this month's "black boot" award winner from conspiracyworld.com, Schiavo case timeline and 2 informative letters to Gov. Bush.

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Ckick on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

ATTENTION friends of Terri! I have been asked by the folks in Florida to post the following message:

PLEASE HONOR THIS REQUEST FROM TAMPA BAY, FLORIDA: DO NOT PUT NAME AND TOWN or other personal info of TERRI VOLUNTEERS in public posts on the Terri threads. If in doubt, DELETE THEIR NAME OUT!!! Please do not post personal addresses and phone #s, towns re: Terri's volunteers and her family. PLEASE SEND PEOPLE TO terrisfight.org for the Foundation Address. Thanks.

Many thanks to all of you who are helping keep FReepers and others up to date with information and for all your efforts in making this thread work. All the research, transcripts, prayers and contact information are invaluable. Special thanks to Calpernia for the header graphic.

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

Terri Schiavo, life insurance, and insurers duty to cancel if beneficiary is trying to kill insured

Governor Sidetracks Schiavo 's Lawsuit

Oregon Bishop Speaks Out in the Case of Terri Schiavo

A thousand words about the Terri Schiavo you never knew

Florida governor, lawmakers defend 'Terri's Law'

Schiavo's case is really about religious right

Roy Moore:Media 'will not print the truth' (While this article isn't only about Terri, Judge Moore does address the issue in this interview)

Remove Dennis Kucinich's Feeding Tube! (Terry Schiavo's Case By Ann Coulter!)

[Annie03]

So, killing the unborn, infirm, ill & disabled is a privacy issue, in your opinion. Which supercedes the above persons right to life. Is this your position or am I misreading you?

[bvw]

It USED to be that LIFE was a fundamental presumption of law, ridiculous to state othewise. Under Natural Law doctrine -- that is the Creator's Law -- life is a duty. We live for purpose, that purpose is the Creator's, our lifes are not our own in that regard.

[Theodore R.]

Liberals say that the Fifth Amendment applies only in CRIMINAL CASES, not in "private" euthanasia decisions. See what the people have brought upon themselves by being politically and judicially asleep for so many decades now.

[Chocolate Rose]

Amen, Amen. Dear Pegita, Thank you for the wonderful prayer. (Post#149)

[Theodore R.]

I believe that it was Mao Tse-tung, a popular and beloved figure among some American liberals, who said that "one death is a tragedy, a thousand deaths is a statistic."

[bvw]

That's a misreading.

[shhrubbery!]

There is no “slippery slope” toward loss of liberties, only a long staircase where each step downward must first be tolerated by the American people and their leaders.

I had never heard that great quote before, msmagoo, do you know who said it?

I googled that quote. Bartleby's says it was former Senator Alan K. Simpson who said that and cites the NY Times from September 1982.

Ironically, Simpson is "pro-choice."

The problem with Simpson and many others who fancy themselves civil-libertarians is that they do not see life, either for the very small or the very disabled, as a civil liberty.

[sweetliberty]

It was my understanding that the order only gave Michael permission to have the feeding tube removed, not demanded that he do so. Felos is a liar.

[pollywog]

It sounds like we need to Freep Judge Greer. I was hoping that Judge Greer finally saw the light and Michael would be removed.

Sounds for SURE like we need to Freep the Greer again:-(( This judge is sickening!

[Theodore R.]

If there are "twenty" judges involved here, then these judges will cover up each others' tracks to protect one another -- like the Sanhedrin or other such bodies. Of course, they probably know the people won't be able or willing to understand what they have done to "the least of these."

[wisconsinconservative]

ping for later

[Theodore R.]

Greer "ain't" budging if these other "judges" will cover up his malfeasance and incompetence for him! There will be nothing to come from this guardian Wolfson, as it now appears, for Terri's Law will be struck down before Christmas (my sad prediction).

[Theodore R.]

Many judges would have figured out a way to dump (the Schiavo) case," said Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice, Greer's friend for more than 20 years. "But he stuck by it. He deserves a medal for enduring that alone."

We don't believe in "guilt by association." But I think GOP voters in Pinellas Co., FL, should still retire "Sheriff" Rice in the next sheriff's primary. Rice has surely outlived any usefulness that he may have once exercised. Why? Just consider the disdain that he has for innocent life, which he as a sheriff is required to uphold under the law.

Defeat Rice in the next Republican primary!!!

[HiTech RedNeck]

With the 10 Commandments and similar proclamations officially extirpated from this country's civic life, there is nothing more to preach this. And so we will get more and more civil court end runs around the only Constitutional explicit protection for life which is in criminal cases. Nazi Germany redux, here we come.

[Spunky]

"If oprah does a pro-Terri piece it will have a tremendous impact

Thats the problem. We don't know which way Oprah will present it. I don't even know who will presenting it on Oprah. Her family or her husband.

I just heard that talk radio host (darn, mind went blank) say it was going to be on Oprah. He is the talk radio host who has been talking alot about Terri.

[Theodore R.]

It was another "Republican" -- this Demers -- who told "guardian" Wolfson not to get too far into this case, for there was a good chance that the case would be terminated before a GAL recommendation was needed. This sounds like a trio of Republican judges, Demers, Greer, and Baird, have conspired to "fix" this case. And the FL Republican leadership is hesitant to go after "Republican" judges!!!!

[sweetliberty]

"and note that food was not legally considered treatment when Terri allegedly made her alleged statements"

Apparently it only came to be considered treatment during the course of this case, as someone posted last night. Nic, was that you that posted that?

[Theodore R.]

I had not heard of "this Clark." So how much money did the Clark "children" inherit from this convenient removal of a feeding tube? Isn't that a relevant point?

[Annie03]

Okay, that is why I asked. But since Terri's right to privacy is what is being argued (same as Roe v Wade) by Felos et al, and the right to life being our number one right, why is the court feeling free to take away her life in interest of her "right to privacy"? Why does this privacy right make it legal to hasten death or abort privately? Since there is a dispute in this case, is not the court ordering an execution - and a technically legal one at that? How is this privacy right helpful to the weakest of our society? How is is protecting us from government interference? I don't think it really is.

[HiTech RedNeck]

It was my understanding that the order only gave Michael permission to have the feeding tube removed,

Oooooooh, if so, switching the guardianship to the Schindlers WOULD stop this, because the Schindlers could have all the "permission" in the world and they wouldn't do it.