Panel Rules Justice Moore Failed to Respect & Comply with Law; Judge removed from Supreme Court

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

More to follow

[exmarine]

This indicates to me, quite clearly, that the Republican party agrees with who is now sitting on the courts. In Alabama, how many of the judges who sat in review of Moore are Republicans?

I agree - that's why I am NOT a Republican. They don't follow the U.S. constitution any better than the Democrats. They are LIGHT democrats is all. The gag reflex kicked in the other day when I saw the elder Bush giving his award to Ted Kennedy. I vote ONLY for candidates who understand the U.S. Constitution and are willing to defend it and honor their oath to it. Our founders took oaths very seriously but not today.

[exmarine]

Since this is just what I said, I'm glad we agree that God favored the Union side in the Civil War.

Not so fast...Lincoln clearly believed that God was judging the ENTIRE NATION in that war - read his 2nd inaugural. The Union also lost and suffered greatly - it was a pyrrhic victory. The Union invaded the South - they were the aggressor. I agree with Jefferson Davis that Union is voluntary and not coercive, otherwise our founding ideals aren't worth the paper they are printed on.

[exmarine]

I'm not talking about objective good or objective bad- I'm talking about morality as a set of rules a given society follows. Each society has its own set of morals. These morals change from time to time and from society to society. The concept of absolute right and wrong is an interesting intellectual exercise, but it's mostly irrelevant.

If absolute morals are irrelevant, then so is the act of murder as to the question of whether it is right or wrong. If cultures dictate morality, then Hitler was right, and so was the antebellum South. Who are you to say your culture is superior - can't be under your logic. One system can only be superior if it more truly adheres to an objective moral standard (which must come from God).

[exmarine]

The best Confederate general was Forrest, beyond any shadow of a doubt. The man was a born cavalry tactician.

Forrest was a great calvary commander (infantry on horseback), but he commanded far less men than Jackson, and his victories were relatively minor battles (Brice's Crossroads was probably his greatest). But, it's a matter of opinion - there are good people who pick both.

I feel the most overrated general was Grant. He won only because he was willing to sacrifice so many men to do it. He was not a brilliant tactician.

[exmarine]

This indicates to me, quite clearly, that the Republican party agrees with who is now sitting on the courts. In Alabama, how many of the judges who sat in review of Moore are Republicans?

Let me tell you, I was incensed when Bush agreed with that racist decision for quotas in the Univ. of Michigan case. I will not vote for Bush. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Just the other day, he praised a homosexual church in one breath, then in the other, voiced his support for traditional marriage. Headscratching time....I am sick of politicians. I want men of character and integrity and "virtue" (there's a word you don't hear any more eh!!).

I am waiting for the day when Dr. James Dobson tells his listeners to bolt the GOP. When that happens, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs. I can't wait. It's time to teach these people just who their base is. Without evangelicals, GOP is TOAST!

[July 4th]

I think his press conference (ongoing) will get him disbarred.

I doubt he will be disbarred. The worst he'll get is a public reprimand from the state bar. Keep in mind that lawyers who embezzle their client's funds typically receive 2-5 year suspensions, and in many states, disbarment isn't even "permanent." You can reapply to the bar after a certain period of time.

Bottom line is that people do far worse than what Moore has done, and end up with a slap on the wrist. I would really be surprised to see any type of sanction.

[Brandon]

Juuust out of curiosity CP, could these factual assertions of yours be considered slander, since I'm fairly certain you have no evidence of Judge Moore's affiliation with any carnival, nor his "psychotic" mental state?

I seem to remember a high-and-mighty someone admonishing many of us not to say such things about a certain Michael Schiavo.

The obvious difference is that Justice Moore is -- or was, until earlier today -- an elected official. It is almost impossible for an elected official to win a slander or libel suit against someone who is criticizing his performance in office, because the Supreme Court has found that the interest of a robust debate on public issues outweighs the individual office holder's right to protect his reputation. That's why we can log on to FR and call Hillary all sorts of things that would be instantly actionable if they were said about a private citizen.

And guess what? That's the way it ought to be.

[rwfromkansas]

Oh, but don't you know, it is alright for judges to use personal beliefs in their decisions......unless it is a Christian belief.

/sarcasm

[itsahoot]

Hmmmm....which part of the Commandments would a Muslim find objectionable?

Well given their penchant for chopping heads off of infidels.........

[TheBigB]

Maybe so. Maybe not. It's certainly debatable that the phrases "carny huckster" and "psychotic" are legitimate criticisms of his performance as a Judge. As far as I'm concerned, it's hypocritical and I said so. I still think so. And anyone like Schiavo who goes on Larry King Live of his own free will (or, making himself a public figure willfully) has lost any moral high ground. Again, my opinion. Nothing more.

[itsahoot]

I just don't need a blood pressure eruption today over such as Chancellor Palpatine, or Hillary's Lovely Legs.

Not worth it.

Wish I had said that, God bless you.

[sarge4]

This country WAS founded on GODLY principles. Who else better? Is there something wrong with GOD? Every aspect of life should be based on GODLY priciples. That is if you beleive in GOD.

[Belial]

This country WAS founded on GODLY principles.

Can an ant understand the principles of Immanuel Kant?

Do you really believe that you have any understanding of the principles of God?

Politicans claim the fiat of God for one purpose: to secure power over the gullible.

[itsahoot]

The fundamentalist version of the history of Christianity is a completely self-congratulatory mythology that has few points of contact with historical fact.

Don't you have something important to do, like pulling wings of bugs.

[TigersEye]

Judge Moore has been right all along. The 11th Circus Court of Ape Heels issued an unlawful order. They are traitors.

[m1-lightning]

Is the law frozen in time?

In a manner of speaking, Yes. Acceptance to sociological changes create or break laws. Slavery was unconstitutional to begin with but it took a large political movement, one man with the guts to deabte it for the presidency and a war to do anything about it.

[itsahoot]

Christians have the same right to use public facilities for religious activities as Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Pagans, Wiccans, Zoroasterians, etc....

His point was that they don't. The Christians that is. Can you point to a single case where any of those named above were denied use of government facilities, except for those deemed Christian, like the Boy Scouts?

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I don't know if you looked lately, but Boy Scout troops are sponsored by Buddhist, Moslem, Jewish and Bahai congregations as well - maybe even some Hindu troops. Its not a uniquely Christian thing.

[itsahoot]

I think you whacked the Kat with this one, and it bears repeating.

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"You're just angy because you want Chrsitianity to be the official religion to the detriment of non-Christians , and the constitution doesn't allow it."

It is the official religion. As far as wanting it forced on people...no. But it best be in the majority. What you are getting is a nation of division. Maybe someday it will end up a nation with no direction at all. How long will we stand then? What will guide us? Self centeredness? Shall we listen to the hindu's, The Isamist's. Maybe the day will come when we will declare Jhad's instead of war. Do you think you can stop it when we are all divided or will the most clever people in subverting the system be the ones who succede? Or will we just have Chaos? Our freedom and our constituton is based on Christianity. Unless you are the only person on earth then you cannot be free without a moral code. And you will not have a lasting moral code if you do not believe in a higher judgement. And you will not remain free and secure if you do not have love for one another over ones self.
Christianity is why we made it this far. The lack of it is why our country will fall apart in Chaos.

And yes I belive that the God of Christianity is the one real God. Why that is...is a study in of itself. But you don't even have to believe that in order to take note of the points above.

[itsahoot]

It appears to me from your posts that you would like the U.S. to be a Christian version of other countries that are dictated to and run by the predominant religion. That's not the country I want to live in.

Judging from the comments on this thread, you have little to worry about from Christians. On the other hand Islam is the fastest growing religion in this country, but nothing to worry about here from the religion of peace.