Panel Rules Justice Moore Failed to Respect & Comply with Law; Judge removed from Supreme Court

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

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[TrueBeliever9]

AOL Poll up now which is surprising because I find AOL to be so LEFT it falls off the left side of my monitor:

Should Roy Moore have lost his job over his conduct?

No 64%

Yes 33%

Not sure 3%

How should Moore have handled this dispute?

He did great -- I wouldn't want him to change a thing. 54%

He never should've put the monument up in the first place. 26%

He should've put the monument on display, then removed it when the court ordered him to. 17%

None of the above 3%

Total Votes: 42,573

[Porterville]

Sorgum is millet (right??) I don't eat sorgum or peanuts, Atkins diet, too many carbs.

[MineralMan]

"Do you suppose Ernest Angely has a God on bill-pay?
"

Nah, he uses PayPal.

[concerned about politics]

Christian icons seem to be sprouting up at other government locations as well now.

That's good. Even our founding fathers said a revolution was sometimes necessary. As long as they do it peacefully, there shouldn't be a problem because no one is hurt by their protests.
Break the bank of the ACLU. I like it!

[WackyKat]

Ah, bringing out the 'No True Scotsman" arguments (as in "No true Scotsman would do that").

Boy, have you hit the mole with the mallet.

"No True Scotsman" is extremely popular among the fundamentalists

Fact: Christians tortured and executed witches

Response: They weren't "True Christians"

Fact: Many Christians practiced slavery and used the Bible to justify it

Response: They weren't "True Christians."

Fact: Christians persecuted great thinkers like Galileo and Giordano Bruno.

Response:They weren't "True Christians"

And on and on it goes.

The amazing thing is that they really don't comprehend what is wrong with their argument.

[george wythe]

Thus, because California omitted a 2nd amendment type RKBA's clause in 1848, its new residents suddenly lost the right to own guns? Ridiculous.

Bet me that this was original intent of the framers..

I would concede to you that your point of view is the consensus among both liberal and conservative scholars who study the US Constitution full time.

I would still rather see the "incorporation doctrine" being narrowly defined.

[Sonnyw]

Let me add a little more historical perspective. The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868, and over the ensuring years the Supreme Court used it to apply the Bill of Rights to the states (they did so, Amendment-by-Amendment, actually initially ruling against its application). Religious fanatics like Judge Moore would like you believe that activists judges have mis-applied the 14th Amendment... and this could not be further from the truth! The 14th Amendment was always intended to force the states to abide by the Bill of Rights!!

Here's what Judge Moore and his like-minded simpletons don't want you to know:

Congressman Bingham, one of the authors of the 14th Amendment, spoke the following words on February 26, 1866, as he encouraged his fellow House Members to vote for the Amendment (words that echoed throughout the land and led to its ratification by the states):

“The question is simply whether you will give by this amendment to the people of the United States the power, by legislative enactment, to punish officials of States for violation of oaths enjoined upon them by their Constitution? Is the Bill of Rights to stand in our Constitution hereafter, as in the past five years within eleven States, a mere dead letter? It is absolutely essential to the safety of the people that it should be enforced.

Mr. Speaker, it appears to me that this very provision of the bill of rights brought in question this day, upon this trial before the House, more than any other provision of the Constitution, makes that unity of government which constitutes us one people, by which and through which American nationality came to be, and only by the enforcement of which can American nationality continue to be.

What more could have been added to that instrument to secure the enforcement of these provisions of the bill of rights in every State, other than the additional grant of power which we ask this day?”

The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868, with the taste of slavery and Civil War still bitter in American mouths, finally giving all American citizens protection from state actions that violate the Bill of Rights.

[Modernman]

We Orthodox don't count.

Generally speaking, I trust no Christian denomination that was started in the United States- especially if the religion involves the handling of snakes.

[Warren_Piece]

Fundamentalist Christians of the American South and Midwest have no concept whatsoever of what persecution is about, and Limbaugh's book is hysterical nonsense

Darn it! This is the second time outside the Terri threads that I've been forced to agree with you 100%! (And I'm about as fundie as they get). Please cease and desist saying things that I agree with. People might get the wrong idea...

[dmz]

It was my intent to demonstrate that the notion of an ordered universe predates Christianity, and IMHO, contributed mightily to the Christian notion of an ordered universe.

That the Greeks did not make the major breakthrough is not relevant, nor is the fact that Aristotle may have had some weird ideas.

Some might think that the notion of transubstantiation is a little weird, making it appropo of, uhhh, absolutely nothing.

[GOPMark]

I am glad to see Roy More and his lawbreaking gone. I agree with Pryor, I think he has the right to have the 10 commandments there, but he doesn't have the power to go against the ruling of a higher court. Such abuse of power can not be tolerated.

[Grando Calrissian]

Nah. It'll be to changed to 666 in their foreheads, and every American will be forced to attend. It's the politicaly correct thing to do. Otherwise, it's behind bars for those who disobey the new PC theology of the U.S.S.A.

I didn't realize that there was a popular movement afoot to forcibly convert Christian-Americans into Satanists. Jerry Bruckenheimer must already have me hypnotised. Now I know why I have 27 copies of the latest Dixie Chicks album and a poster of "Benny and Joon" hanging in my room.

[lugsoul]

"Christian icons seem to be sprouting up at other government locations as well now."

But how can this be? Aren't Christians the most reviled, persecuted group in the country? How can they possibly put monuments in government buildings? How can they stop the sale of alcohol on their holy day? How can they elect one of their own to be the President of the United States?

[WackyKat]

How can a Christian sin repeatedly and still claim to live in Godlines

Very good question. But they do it all the time anyway.

[Moby Grape]

"No, it makes it sound like you were a football star at an SEC or Southwest Conference school whose coach bribed your instructors."

I don't agree with about 99% of what you have been saying on this thread, and I believe you have a uninformed liberal media template view of Christianity, HOWEVER, the quote above was VERY funny.

[concerned about politics]

I don't know how any of what you have posted #397 relates to the persecution of Christians in America.

They're pushing Christians out of the public square. Christians pay taxes for property, too, and PC will not allow them to use it.
Earth worshipers, wiccans, homos, racist groups, Muslums, etc. are approved - prayers and all - and can all use public land, but if a group puts the Great I Am over PC, it has to be hidden.
Political Correctnes is the chosen religion of the U.S.S.A.

[concerned about politics]

I didn't realize that there was a popular movement afoot to forcibly convert Christian-Americans into Satanists.

Public schools. God is the enemy.

[johnb838]

Just because something isn't counter-intuitive doesn't mean it's untrue.

[tpaine]

Great post. Bookmarked..

Thanks.

[george wythe]

Thanks for your articulate comment. <