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Panel Rules Justice Moore Failed to Respect & Comply with Law; Judge removed from Supreme Court

Posted on 11/13/2003 9:23:02 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: Chancellor Palpatine
people can't be fired for their religious beliefs,

The judge was.

301 posted on 11/13/2003 11:08:20 AM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. It is done.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
All Lies! You will rot in hell and drink the fire blood of Satan! Your only hope for salvation is to send a $100 donation to Justice Moore Foundation for the Purification of Alabama. Visa and Mastercard accepted.
302 posted on 11/13/2003 11:08:39 AM PST by Grando Calrissian
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To: concerned about politics
When they die of AIDs, it was their choice. No one else did it for them. When they have so many children and no father to feed them, it's their call. When they find themsleves in prison for rape, theft, murder - it's their call. When they're imprisoned for purgery or slander, it too was their decision. If they're run away teens living on the streets, they did it. You see, those who chose to follow their own way will suffer by their own hand

Just brimming over with Christian love, forgiveness, and compassion aren't you?

I can see you're more of an "Old Testament"-style Christian.

You should have been born in the Middle Ages, you would have been much happier there.

303 posted on 11/13/2003 11:09:55 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: Porterville
Right on brother, it is a funny feeling when things like this ruling happen, faith grows and apathy fades. The enemies of the state win a small battle, while the public works to extricate the political hacks from the system through the ballot box. This is why the Dems own nothing.

Well, friend, I hope you are right, but I fear that many who call themselves Christians place too much value on their comfort level to ever speak out. They have been dumbed down, distracted by sex and violence, and become self-obsesssed with their own comforts. We'll see how many Christians have courage of their convictions. Juxtapose that with the statement from the Declaration of Independence: "We pledge our fortunes, our lives and our sacred honor..."

Here is what Roy Moore said recently in an interview:

"A lot of people are just like they said they would be in the Book of Revelation. "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked."

"In the church today, they don't recognize the sovereignty of God. They want to surround the Ten Commandments with secular documents to secularize it and admit that there is no God higher than government. Indeed, they are violating the very precepts that Jesus Christ stood upon. When Pilate asked Jesus, "Don't you know I could have you crucified, or I could release you?" Jesus said, "You would have no authority but that it were given by God."

"They fail to recognize the 13th chapter of Romans, that all power is of God. And when people in the church fail to recognize God because government says they can't, and try to conform their actions to fit that scenario, and deny God, they're denying the Son. And Jesus said, "If you deny Me before men, I'll deny you before my Father." And that's exactly what's going on today. When you deny the Father, you deny the Son. You can't confess the Son if you deny the Father who gave Him to us. "

JUDGE ROY MOORE in interview with WorldNetDaily

304 posted on 11/13/2003 11:13:19 AM PST by exmarine (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Porterville
#296...Good for you!
Stay with it!

Me...I'm a little burned out....

305 posted on 11/13/2003 11:13:19 AM PST by Guenevere (..., .a long time Florida resident and voter!)
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To: concerned about politics
Is that why all the younger voters in the 1980s (raised by hippies and former hippies) voted for Republicans?

Link please. Very few were hippies, and even those only during their youth. Many grew to be normal members of society. Today, the liberals are @30% of the population max., and that's only because of the indoctrination success of removing the children from their homes and placing them in the "village."

Just like today, the extremes get the press coverage, the rest are living their lives as normal citizens.

It's a matter of historical record that younger voters during the 1960s were overwhelmingly left-liberal, and their children, the younger voters of the later 1980s, supported Reagan by at least a 2-1 margin.

-Eric

306 posted on 11/13/2003 11:14:08 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: exmarine
"it was Christians who abolished slavery (abolitionist movement)..."

You convienently forgot to mention that they ended the slavery that the Christians who founded the country started. And many Christians fought long and hard using the Bible to keep blacks in slavery. Heck, Stonewall Jackson was about as Christian as they came. Not too good an example.
307 posted on 11/13/2003 11:14:45 AM PST by kegler4
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To: ZULU
Then e-mail that idiot in the Alabama's governor's mansion Bob Riley.

Do you have his e-mail? How about Pryor's?

308 posted on 11/13/2003 11:14:56 AM PST by exmarine (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: All
Can't bear to read all of these replys - am in shock that so many of you are against Judge Moore. He is a man of principle and that is so rare today.

Regardless of his own ambitions - I believe God has great plans for his future...

309 posted on 11/13/2003 11:15:30 AM PST by Momto2
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To: exmarine
laws are legislation - not arbitrary rulings by little gods in black robes.

Nevertheless, even conservative Supreme Court Justices, such as Rehnquist and Scalia, are on the record as claming that the First Amendment prevents the states from displaying certain religious symbols all year around.

How do you propose to correct this consensus view among liberals and conservatives judges?

310 posted on 11/13/2003 11:15:50 AM PST by george wythe
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To: WackyKat
Just brimming over with Christian love, forgiveness, and compassion aren't you?

Yes. I do not stand in their way of their God givin free will to chose between good or evil. If they ask for food, I'd feed them and teach them to grow their own food. If they chose not to change their ways, I'll just move on. I've done what is expected of me.
If they choose to fall, who am I to stand in their way? All I can do is watch.
What else would you demand of me?

311 posted on 11/13/2003 11:16:01 AM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. It is done.)
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To: Porterville
I went to your home page...

Most impressive...the sermon of Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God...

...well known sermon and most effective to its listeners.

Bless you, if you have that fire in your belly to stay here & make a difference, more power to you!!!

312 posted on 11/13/2003 11:17:40 AM PST by Guenevere (..., .a long time Florida resident and voter!)
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To: Servant of the 9
If he was a lunatic than so were all of the God fearing framers of the Constitution. A little anti-religious bias here I think?
313 posted on 11/13/2003 11:18:04 AM PST by Indie (GO AHEAD. MAKE MY DAY!)
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To: E Rocc
It's a matter of historical record that younger voters during the 1960s were overwhelmingly left-liberal, and their children, the younger voters of the later 1980s, supported Reagan by at least a 2-1 margin.

Link? Not all college kids voted. They were noisey, though.

314 posted on 11/13/2003 11:18:20 AM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. It is done.)
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To: Belial
If Christianity created the impetus for the Age of Reason, why did Europe stagnate for a 1000 years when the Church held sway? In truth, it was the reintroduction of Greek thought into Europe, transmitted through Jews and Arabs, that brought Europe out of the Dark Ages.

The fundamentalist version of the history of Christianity is a completely self-congratulatory mythology that has few points of contact with historical fact.

315 posted on 11/13/2003 11:18:42 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: kegler4
You convienently forgot to mention that they ended the slavery that the Christians who founded the country started. And many Christians fought long and hard using the Bible to keep blacks in slavery. Heck, Stonewall Jackson was about as Christian as they came. Not too good an example.

Typical revisionist painting history with a broad stereotypical brush... FACT: Stonewall Jackson taught Sunday School to slave children. FACT: It was NOT christians who introduced slavery. The Christians were in the North at that time - Pilgrims and puritans - no slaves there! They were introduced in the South. Read the Northwest Odinance of 1789 - it's an official govt. decree and a Christian document - forbidding slavery.

You are right in one sense. There were some Christians who believed that slavery was God's will - it was a blind spot for some of them in the South, but since you didn't live in 1860, and since your views of the past or are affected by your recent liberalized public education which attempts to denigrate all the founding fathers, I would re-educate myself on this topic if I were you to get a better truer perspective. Try reading the recent biography of Stonewall Jackson by Robertson - you will find it quite revealing.

316 posted on 11/13/2003 11:19:20 AM PST by exmarine (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: concerned about politics
LOL - no, unfortunately, he took it on himself to set the criteria by which he, as Chief Justice, would honor God in the name of the State of Alabama. He did something that no prior Chief Justice had felt it necessary to do under the Alabama Constitution, did it as an express statement to honor God in the name of Alabama, and did it to the exclusion of requests by other faiths to include displays in honor of their traditions. All this done, mind you, as a function of his political office, and in violation of several decades of 1st and 14th amendment jurisprudence. When confronted with that jurisprudence in litigation, he stated that he was required to put up the monument to honor God, and when ordered to remove it, he refused, insisting that Alabama has to recognize God in the fashion which he chose as a public official - a clear establishment under the 1st amendment.

He was removed for his refusal to honor the law, something that legislators and executives will sometimes be rewarded for, but judges will not.

I could go into the choice of his text of the 10 commandments (his own), his request for an arena, and all his other foibles, but when it comes down to it, he was fired because he refuses to acknowledge the rule of law - and

317 posted on 11/13/2003 11:19:47 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Porterville
If it takes the power of the federal government to make local wannabe theocrats respect the law, then so be it.

I don't understand, how can the "individual" have power, when the collective "federal government" sets the limits on representation in the state government?? How is one represented when folks in D.C. dictate the representative’s beliefs??

The Constitution sets limits on the power of the state and local governments. You choose to call that limits on "representation", a statist view. Some of us on the other hand consider limitations on government to be, for the most part, good.

-Eric

318 posted on 11/13/2003 11:20:35 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: sharkhawk
He didn't "sneak it in in the middle of the night"- as for
Alabama Law you will have to check with the Alabama State
Govt.The Honorable chief Justice Roy S.Moore -unlike Myron
Thompson has not violated the clear and unambiguous language of the Constitution. Unlike Ed Carnes of the 11th
circus -who said if tha tmonument were allowed to stand it would mean a massive revision of how the courts have interpreted the constitution for years."this was NOT about
Justice or the ruleof Law it was all about convienence of
the corrupt.
319 posted on 11/13/2003 11:21:56 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: george wythe
In order to give the powers back to the states, we need to appoint judges who do not think that the First Amendmend applies to the states.

So you want to flush the First Amendment?

I'd rather keep it, thank you very much.

320 posted on 11/13/2003 11:22:36 AM PST by WackyKat
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