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To: exmarine
"it was Christians who abolished slavery (abolitionist movement)..."

You convienently forgot to mention that they ended the slavery that the Christians who founded the country started. And many Christians fought long and hard using the Bible to keep blacks in slavery. Heck, Stonewall Jackson was about as Christian as they came. Not too good an example.
307 posted on 11/13/2003 11:14:45 AM PST by kegler4
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To: kegler4
You convienently forgot to mention that they ended the slavery that the Christians who founded the country started. And many Christians fought long and hard using the Bible to keep blacks in slavery. Heck, Stonewall Jackson was about as Christian as they came. Not too good an example.

Typical revisionist painting history with a broad stereotypical brush... FACT: Stonewall Jackson taught Sunday School to slave children. FACT: It was NOT christians who introduced slavery. The Christians were in the North at that time - Pilgrims and puritans - no slaves there! They were introduced in the South. Read the Northwest Odinance of 1789 - it's an official govt. decree and a Christian document - forbidding slavery.

You are right in one sense. There were some Christians who believed that slavery was God's will - it was a blind spot for some of them in the South, but since you didn't live in 1860, and since your views of the past or are affected by your recent liberalized public education which attempts to denigrate all the founding fathers, I would re-educate myself on this topic if I were you to get a better truer perspective. Try reading the recent biography of Stonewall Jackson by Robertson - you will find it quite revealing.

316 posted on 11/13/2003 11:19:20 AM PST by exmarine (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: kegler4
Those that did all they could to justify slaver using the Bible are no different than the power brokers who ran the church during the Middle Ages(that is not to say everyone was a power broker either), no different than the lot of dictators that have littered our history, and no different than those who have peddled Marx and Lenin. They where all in it for themselves to seek power or keep their current power(wealth, land, political prestige, etc.), this goes against everything that Christianity really is. They sought power, not truth. One thing that no one should forget is that those who stray away from Christianity are no longer Christians.
519 posted on 11/13/2003 1:36:33 PM PST by DarkWaters
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