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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 11-13
Various | November 10, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/10/2003 8:35:02 PM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Thread 7 - November 11-13)

Link back to thread 6 - (Nov.8-10)
Link back to thread 5 - (Nov. 5-7)
Link back to thread 4 - (Nov. 3-4)
Link back to thread 3 (Nov. 1-2)
Link back to thread 2 - (Oct. 30-31)
Link back to thread 1 - (Oct. 29)

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Contained in Thread 6:

*Correction on thread 6. In the heading where it says, "contained in thread 4," it should read, "contained in thread 5."

Contact information for Judge Greer, probate documents listed for Terry and Michael Schiavo, article from April, 2001 when Terri's feeding tube was ordered by Judge Quesada to be put back in pending deposition of Cindy Shook Brashers, link to clip of Steve Schiavo calling in to Glenn Beck's program, link to information on Schiavo/Centonze property value, link to transcript of On the Record interview with Ken Connor, link to American Patriot Friends Network, link to hospicepatients.org website, article about the testimony of Trudy Capone, link to post about co-sponsor of Terri's Bill in the House, Frank Attkisson giving legal reasons for the need for intervention on Terri's behalf, link to Hospice Patients Alliance website, statement that 9 neurologists have said that Terri is NOT in a PVS, Washington, D.C.contact information via email/fax, summary of legal expenses that Schiavo paid out of the money awarded to him for Terri’s care and rehabilitation, also see chart here for summary of legal expenses, This Round to Terri, But Fight Not Over article in Catholic Standard & Times (10/23/2003), another article, Schindlers Wonder What Happened the Night Terri Collapsed form Catholic Standard and Times:, and a serious question that is raised and needs to be researched.

Also in thread 6 (breaking it down into 2 paragraphs due to the length): information on holdings of Jodi Centonze, was Terri beaten(?), liability claims against Terri’s doctors, chronology of cases against Michael Schiavo, Schiavo v. Bush, who’s paying hospice(?), some quotes from George Felos’ book here and here, Jodi Centonze insurance connections, link to Village Voice article: Lying about Terri Schiavo, federal prohibition of use of funds for assisted suicide and euthanasia, the model husband according to George Felos (also see addition here), findings of Florida medical board on Dr. Hammersfahr and some facts about Judge Greer regarding this case.

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Click on pic for Terri's website
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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; buttout; cultureofdeath; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schiavothread; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: nicmarlo
Night nic. See you tomorrow.
341 posted on 11/13/2003 8:28:47 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Do you think George Soros is channeling money to Michael R. Schiavo, George W. Greer, and George J. Felos?
342 posted on 11/13/2003 9:07:04 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: sweetliberty
Incredible. And whatever happened with the bill that would drop "lewd and lascivious behavior" as a disqualifier for guardianship that was conspicuaously on the table at the same time as Felos had a motion to dismiss pending on the challenge to Schiavo's guardianship?

How many people have been convicted under the "lewd and lacivious behavior" statute for cohabitation within the last ten years? If people are never convicted of lewd and lacivious behavior, then conviction for such is no longer a meaningful factor in guardianship.

A bigger issue than whether someone has been convicted of such behavior at some point in the past would be the question of whether they were engaged in such behavior either when guardianship was being considered or at some time after it was granted. Even there, I think there should be some circumstances when it should not be a disqualifying factor (e.g. if a child's parents are killed in a car crash, and the only aunt/uncle is currently cohabiting with a fiancé(e), I would not say such cohabitation should disqualify that person for guardianship. On the other hand, I would like to see a statute make plain that a person cannot be guardian of a spouse against whom they have or are engaged in adultery.

343 posted on 11/13/2003 10:02:45 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: daylate-dollarshort
The concept means that it's illegal to give Terri Schiavo a right that others don't get.

The cure for this "flaw" would logically be that the governor gets to stay ALL death orders, or even MUST stay them. I would be cool with that.

344 posted on 11/13/2003 10:16:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck ("Across this great nation people pray -- do not put out her flame" -- DFU. An unashamed Godsquadder)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Oh, and the only one who would have standing to complain about this law would be someone (or their legal proxy) who was being denied the right in question. But that would never happen under the current system anyhow.
345 posted on 11/13/2003 10:41:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck ("Across this great nation people pray -- do not put out her flame" -- DFU. An unashamed Godsquadder)
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To: pc93
316 - Magnificent work, PC93!!
346 posted on 11/13/2003 10:55:17 PM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: nicmarlo
Regarding your post 283, it appears a thread was not developed for the article.

You could do so now if you believe it has a bearing on the degree of care Terri isn't receiving at this time, and if so cause it to be the basis of a complaint you can place with the Florida state agency responsible for overseeing services to the disabled and aged in that state.

347 posted on 11/13/2003 11:42:11 PM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: sweetliberty; All
Can I ask you for a big favor, please :)
I can't find the documentation about MS melting her engagement and wedding rings, and

Can anybody please help me with finding " MS killing the cats"
documentation to, I tryed to remember thread, and post, but there's thousands & thousands, and i forgot where it was.

I thank you....I am trying to inform others on other forum's...and spreading the word...xo
348 posted on 11/14/2003 1:09:00 AM PST by Orlando
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
NEW THREAD!

349 posted on 11/14/2003 2:12:01 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: supercat; sweetliberty
I would like to see a statute make plain that a person cannot be guardian of a spouse against whom they have or are engaged in adultery.

Better to be more specific:

An individual who is the SPOUSE of an incapacitated person for whom guardianship is sought SHALL NOT be appointed as guardian or temporary guardian of the incapacitated spouse if the individual seeking guardianship has been found, at any time during the marriage to said incapacitated spouse (whether or not incapacitated at the time), to have:

1. committed adultery against his/her incapacitated spouse; or

2. impregnated a woman not his wife while still married to the incapacitated spouse; or

3. fathered/birthed illegitimate offspring while married to the incapacitated spouse.


350 posted on 11/14/2003 4:08:56 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Robert Drobot
As I am not a Florida resident/citizen, I believe I have standing to file a complaint in that state. (Unfortunately, neither do I have the ability to travel/funds to proceed in litigation.) But, perhaps there may be a local group that might be willing to take this issue up.
351 posted on 11/14/2003 4:12:21 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Robert Drobot
ooops: Meant to say "I believe I have no standing to file a complaint in that state."
352 posted on 11/14/2003 4:13:24 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
Freepers should join Ann Coulter's message board. That's how IMO, one way that Ann is finding out about Terri. I think she's got an anncoulter.com but I'm not 100% on that. FV
353 posted on 11/14/2003 5:13:34 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
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To: All
Terri Schiavo's court-appointed guardian will meet with Governor Bush today. Also, a Clearwater judge will hear a motion today filed by attorneys for Terri Schiavo's husband Michael.

http://www.baynews9.com/site/newsst...m?storyid=27708
354 posted on 11/14/2003 9:36:32 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: All
Terri's family, the Schindlers, were scheduled to appear on Larry King Live tonight (Nov 14) at 9 pm EST. They've been bumped from the show. If they get rescheduled, I'll notify you all.
355 posted on 11/14/2003 10:41:25 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: nicmarlo
We need to send post #316 to both Judge Baird and the State Attorneys defending Terri's Law.

The incestuous connections between the lawyers and judges in this case and the Suncoast Hospice organization is astounding. The connections are fearsome. Even upon a cursory glance is alarming; this information reeks of corruption.

And this is not even mentioning the relationship between a state rep and his own son's relationship with Hospice.

The venue NEEDS to be in Tallehasse. Pinellas County seems to a cesspool of infected, corupt associations and motives.

Note to felos, greer and MS-Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive! We are on to you. Big time.

356 posted on 11/15/2003 3:48:32 AM PST by Republic
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To: Republic
We need to send post #316 to both Judge Baird and the State Attorneys defending Terri's Law.

I agree; also to the Schindler's attorney, Anderson.

357 posted on 11/15/2003 6:22:52 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Micavaga
does anyone know if Terri listed herself as an organ donor anywhere?

We've thought about that....and figured, by now, any of her driving records would be destroyed, as she has been incapacitated for so long. Obviously, Mikhell would have also destroyed her driver's license, much as he destroyed all other reminders of Terri, i.e., her cats, her wedding/engagement rings melted, etc.

BTW, welcome to FR.

358 posted on 11/18/2003 3:07:16 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: iowamomforfreedom; FL_engineer
bump -- thanks for the post.
359 posted on 12/30/2003 6:44:19 AM PST by cyn (cynic#456,789)
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