Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

ABC Special Explores if Jesus Had Wife
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 10.30.03 | DAVID BAUDER

Posted on 10/30/2003 7:46:04 PM PST by mhking

NEW YORK — ABC News correspondent Elizabeth Vargas concedes her network is stepping into a theological minefield with its one-hour exploration of whether Jesus Christ had a wife.

The ABC News special, "Jesus, Mary and DaVinci," is scheduled to air Monday at 8 p.m. ET.

"You can't talk about this subject without intriguing people or offending people," Vargas said Thursday. "We're trying to do it as respectfully as we can."

ABC screened the special for some reporters and religious leaders on Thursday. The program is based on the best-selling novel, "The DaVinci Code," which claims to be partly grounded on historical fact.

The book asserts that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife — not a prostitute, as in some teachings — and that she fled Jerusalem with his child following his crucifixion.

The story was kept alive for centuries by a secret society that included the painter Leonardo DaVinci, who supposedly inserted clues about it in his art, the book claimed.

The ABC special outlines the theories and speaks to several theologians who either discount the story or assert that it is possible.

The show unravels like a mystery perpetuated by secondhand gossip. Vargas said ABC found no proof that Jesus had a wife, but couldn't completely discount it, either.

Vargas, who was raised a Roman Catholic, said her own parents said to her, "Oh, my goodness, what are you doing?" when they found out she was working on the story.

She said she was never aware of the power struggles and political intrigue that went into how her faith is taught today.

"For me, it's made religion more real and, ironically, much more interesting — which is what we're hoping to do for our viewers," she said.

It drew some immediate criticism, particularly from a representative of the Catholic League, who said ABC News relied too heavily on the opinion of Father Richard McBrien of Notre Dame, who believes Mary Magdalene's importance has been historically understated and that it's possible she was his wife.

"I think it was not sufficiently balanced," said Joseph DeFeo, policy analyst for the Catholic League. "The majority of the people who spoke believed in either the plausibility or the outright truth of (book author) Dan Brown's claims. The facts themselves scream out that this is a crackpot theory."

The show even drew criticism from Nikki Stephanopoulos, mother of ABC News correspondent George and the communications director for the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America. She the special might offend people who believe that women have a more prominent role in the church.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arielsabar; catholiclist; epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; godsgravesglyphs; gospelofjesuswife; harvard; hewasarabbi; jamescameron; jesuswife; karenking; letshavejerusalem; mariame; mariamne; marymagdalene; rabbismarry; religion; sectarianturmoil; simchajacobovici; talpiot; veritas; weddingatcana
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180 ... 341-354 next last
To: mhking
Over the ages, human beings tend to mythologize the life of any historical figure. Look at Lincoln, Kennedy, etc.

So the humans who recorded Jesus' life did not partake of any embellishment at all ?

They didn't even start to record His life until about 100 AD !


BUMP

141 posted on 10/31/2003 5:39:37 AM PST by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #142 Removed by Moderator

To: mhking
BOYCOTT DISNEY: a vortex of seductive evil™
143 posted on 10/31/2003 5:47:55 AM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dajjal
Those Wacky Christ Kids!

Descendants of Jesus? Or Scam Artistes Extraordinaire?

Another FREE chapter from
70 Greatest Conspiracies of All Time
By Jonathan Vankin and John Whalen
A Citadel Press Book
Copyright © 2001 All Rights Reserved

The mysterious French organization known as the Priory of Zion may be a nine-hundred-year-old secret society possessing proof that Jesus Christ survived the crucifixion. What's more, it may also be the repository of Europe's secret history, and indeed the underground annals of all Christendom. Then again, maybe it's just an extremely elaborate hoax. Whichever, it launched a best-selling book, 1982's Holy Blood, Holy Grail, by BBC documentary filmmaker Henry Lincoln and historians Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh.

Lincoln and company set out to write about one of France's most enduring riddles, the legend of Rennes-le-Chateau, an antique village ensconced in the Pyrenees mountains. Legend has it that somewhere beneath its cobblestone streets, Rennes-le-Chateau harbors a fabulous treasure. Locals are partial to the theory that the stash belonged to the Cathars, Christian heretics stamped out by the Catholic church in the thirteenth century. New Age pilgrims and occultists trek there to partake of the town's supposed spiritual energy; treasure hunters prowl its windswept perimeters in search of more worldly goods. Others tie the source of the town's mystical fascination to UFOs. Whatever the theory, Rennes-le-Chateau owes its renaissance as a mystical landmark to a nineteenth-century cleric named Berenger Sauniere, and that is where Lincoln, Baigent, and Leigh began their quest.

The story opens in 1885, when the Catholic church assigned Sauniere, thirty-three years old, handsome, well-educated--if provincial--to the parish at Rennes-le-Chateau. Sauniere set about restoring the town's tiny church, which sat atop a sacred site dating back to the sixth-century Visigoths. Under the altar stone, inside a hollow Visigothic pillar, the young cure discovered a series of parchments. There were two genealogies dating from 1244 A.D. and 1644 A.D., as well as more recent documents created by a former parish priest during the 1780s. According to Lincoln and his co-authors, these more recent papers contained a series of ciphers and codes, some of them "fantastically complex, defying even a computer" to unlock their secrets.

Sauniere took his discovery to the bishop in nearby Carcassonne, who dispatched the priest to Paris, where clerical scholars studied the parchments. One of the simpler ciphers, when translated, read: TO DAGOBERT II KING AND TO SION BELONGS THIS TREASURE AND HE IS THERE DEAD.

Whatever it all meant, apparently it became Sauniere's entree into a new world, with the accent on worldly. For during his short stay in Paris, Sauniere began to mix with the city's cultural elite, many of whom dabbled in the occult arts. Contemporary gossip had it that the country priest had an affair with Emma Calve, the famous opera diva who was also a high priestess of the Parisian esoteric underground. She would later visit him frequently in Rennes-le-Chateau.

When Sauniere returned to his parish, he resumed restoration of the church and discovered an underground crypt, supposedly containing skeletons. At this point, his taste in interior design seems to have taken a turn for the, well, peculiar; among the eccentric fixtures he installed were a holy water basin surmounted by a statue of a sneering red demon and an equally garish wall relief depicting Jesus atop a hill at the base of which is an object resembling a sack of money. The stations of the cross had their oddities too: One, set at night, depicted Jesus being carried into the tomb--or smuggled out of it? Sauniere also installed a series of cipher messages in the fixtures of the church. He spent a fortune refurbishing the town and developed extravagant tastes for rare china, antiques, and other pricey artifacts. Yet how Sauniere acquired this apparent windfall remained a mystery--he stubbornly refused to explain the secret of his success to the church authorities. When he died in 1917, he was supposedly penniless, yet his former housekeeper later spoke of a "secret" that would make its owner not only rich but also "powerful." Unfortunately, she never spilled the beans.

Lincoln and his co-authors found no treasure, though they speculated that Sauniere might have exhumed somebody's loot: Maybe it was the legendary Cathar hoard, or the nest egg of the Visigoths, or perhaps the treasure of the Merovingian kings who ruled the region between the fifth and eighth centuries--the Dagobert II mentioned in the coded parchment was one of them. Maybe it was a combination of all three treasures. Or, if not treasure in the conventional sense, then perhaps Sauniere had discovered some form of forbidden knowledge and had used it to blackmail someone, say, for instance, the church.

At any rate, during their investigation into the legend of Sauniere, what Lincoln and company did discover was less cashable, yet just as mysterious: an unseen hand "discreetly, tantalizingly" directing a low-key publicity effort on behalf of the legend.

At the center of the underground PR campaign they found an enigmatic and very real figure named Pierre Plantard de Saint-Clair, apparently the source behind much of the recent literature devoted to the hilltown and its enigmatic priest. Shepherded to Paris's Bibliotheque Nationale, our trio of historical investigators discovered there a provocative genealogy purporting to link Pierre Plantard to King Dagobert II and the Merovingian dynasty. Hardly your run-of-the-mill blue blood, that Monsieur Plantard, for the Merovingians were considered in their day to be quasi-mystical warrior-kings vested with supernatural powers. Ah, but that was only one item on Plantard's impressive family resume. More on that in a moment.

Throughout these dossiers secrets at Paris's national library were tantalizing historical references to a mysterious and ancient secret society called Prieure de Sion, or Priory of Zion. The word Zion, of course, appeared in various ciphers connected with Rennes-le-Chateau. It also seemed to refer to Mount Zion in Jerusalem, site of the ancient Temple of Solomon.

According to the secret dossiers, the spectral Priory was linked to the famous Knights Templar, an order of warrior monks who defended the European occupation of the Holy Land during the twelfth century. The Templars took their name from the source of their authority and the site of their quarters, built on the ruins of the Temple of Solomon. Of course, this wasn't the first conspiracy theory to cast the Templars as cabalistic bugaboos, yet their supposed connection to the (possibly fictional) Priory of Zion was a new one. Taking a cue from the dossiers, Lincoln and company speculated that the clandestine Priory had hidden behind the Knights Templar, which served as the Priory's armed entourage and public face.

And if these secret dossiers were to be believed, the Priory of Zion was a covert force to be reckoned with. References to well-known historical events suggested that the Priory had been a secret power in Europe ever since the Crusades, a gray eminence manipulating kings and popes in the furtherance of some obscure mission.

According to the musty pamphlets and microfiche in France's national library, through the ages the Priory's leaders had included such luminaries as Leonardo da Vinci, Sir Isaac Newton, Charles Radclyffe, Victor Hugo, and the most recent entry on the list, Jean Cocteau, the twentieth-century artist and author. In all, the list named twenty-six such "grand masters" spanning some seven hundred years!

Could the group have survived into the late twentieth century? Lincoln and company checked with the French authorities and discovered that there was indeed a contemporary organization calling itself Priory of Zion. And who do you think was registered as the group's secretary-general but Pierre Plantard.

When Lincoln finally tracked him down, Plantard turned out to be a wily old aristocrat who had played a small part in the French Resistance. But his deliberate obfuscation seemed intended as much to conceal something as to lure the authors further into the mystery.

Just what was Plantard trying to hideãor reveal in his consciously elliptical way? What was the possibly sinister purpose behind the Priory of Zion?

The authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail proposed a theory, as tangled and complicated as the dossier secrets, yet entertainingly mounted and surprisingly well argued. Was there a connection, they wondered, between the heretical Cathars of thirteenth-century France, Sauniere's Rennes-le-Chateau, the Templars, and the omnipresent Priory of Zion?

But of course, they ventured. Lincoln and company hypothesized that the fabled Cathar treasure at Rennes-le-Chateau was one in the same with the Merovingian cache and the Templars' treasure of King Solomon. At some point, according to Lincoln et al., the treasure had passed from the Merovingians to the Priory of Zion, whose Templar operatives later hustled the precious hoard from the Holy Land to the French Cathars, who, on the eve of their destruction by the church, squirreled the lucre away in the Pyrenees.

But what if the "treasure" was something other than gold? After all, legend had it that the Cathar heretics possessed a valuable, even sacred relic, "which according to a number of legends, was the Holy Grail," itself. During World War II, the Nazis supposedly excavated various sites in the vicinity of Rennes-le-Chateau in their futile search for the Grail (which was dramatized in the movie Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade).

Was the lost Cathar/Templar/Merovingian/Sauniere treasure, then, the fabled Holy Grail, itself? By suggesting that it was, our trailblazing authors were not suggesting that the ominous Priory revolved around a mere religious relicãand a rusty old goblet at that. Lincoln and company had something more ambitious in mind. Boldly reinterpreting centuries of folklore, they proposed that the Grail of medieval romance might have been a coded reference to something much more controversial: the literal bloodline of Christ.

Here's where Lincoln and company shifted into conspiratorial overdrive. Borrowing the thesis of Hugh J. Schonfield's book, The Passover Plot, and grafting it onto the enigmatic Plantard clues, Lincoln and his co-authors fashioned a, well, daring theory. Stripped of syllogistic elegance, it goes something like this: Christ survived the crucifixion by "faking" his death or otherwise being "fruitful" before Good Friday, either way leaving behind the wife and kids. The "Christs" subsequently legged it to the south of France where they intermarried with the royal Franks to found what eventually became the mystical Merovingian Dynasty. Ergo, the real mission of the Templars and Priory of Zion: to safeguard not just the treasure of the Crusades, but to preserve the Grail, which appeared in medieval texts as "Sangraal" or "Sangreal," and which Lincoln et al. translated to mean sang real, or "royal blood." In other words: the dynastic legacy of Christ, literally.

This, then, might be the stunning secret--and the secret society that evolved through the ages to protect it--that Abbe Sauniere stumbled upon in Rennes-le-Chateau: TO DAGOBERT II KING AND TO SION BELONGS THIS TREASURE AND HE IS THERE DEAD. Who He? J.C.

Suddenly, the meandering history of Europe develops a dramatic, cohesive plot line: The persecution of the Cathars by the church, the collusion of Rome in the assassination of King Dagobert, the successful conspiracy of the Pope Clement V and Phillipe IV of France to suppress the powerful Templars--all were efforts to "eradicate it, Jesus' bloodline." For "it" constituted nothing less than a rival church with a more direct link to J.C.'s legacy than the Vatican could ever claim.

Whew. Fast forward to the twentieth century, and Plantard's Merovingian pedigree has obvious implications.

Of course, Plantard's response to all this virtuoso theorizing was that enigmatic Mona Lisa smile of his. He wasn't about to walk on water, at least not at the behest of three future best-selling authors.

Curiously, in their follow-up book, The Messianic Legacy, Lincoln, Baigent, and Leigh sounded at times almost as if they were proselytizing. Advocating the concept of the lost "priest-king," they argued that a dose of spiritual leadership might not necessarily be a bad thing for rudderless Europe, especially since the historically bickering nations were attempting to unify as an Economic Community anyway. A "theocratic United States of Europe" might be just what the doctor ordered, Lincoln and his associates suggested.

Yet their sequel ended on a decidedly down note, for their subsequent research raised doubts about the true nature of the Priory.

In piercing the confounding veil surrounding Plantard and his mysterious organization, Lincoln and company opened a sordid vault of modern conspiracies. Key Priory documents purporting to trace the royal lineage back to J.C., Himself, were said to have been smuggled out of France by British intelligence agents, possibly at the behest of American spooks. Why were these venal forces sullying the uplifting vision of the Lost King? There were other troubling elements lurking in the background, including Italy's crypto-fascist P2 Masonic lodge, which during the 1980s seemed to have reserved seating at every major conspiracy event.

Could Lincoln, Baigent, and Leigh have stumbled upon an elaborate, tangled ruse set up for some abstruse objective of spycraft, or perhaps in the service of right-wing European politics? Was Plantard just a clever self-promoter with too much ancien regime leisure time on his hands? Or, if it wasn't a hoax from the get-go, did the Priory of Zion's ancient charter devolve at some point into a club for tweedy intelligence operatives? Was the Grail just a dirty cup filled with slippery spy dust?

During the 1980s, the books struck a ringing chord just about everywhere. The American clergy went ballistic at the suggestion that centuries of Christian dogma amounted to centuries of false dogma. Despite the fact that Holy Blood, Holy Grail restored the underappreciated French to the center of the cosmos (after all, the Messiah doesn't have an English or American accent, does He?), modern Gallic folk tend to be unimpressed with the trio's revisionist scholarship. And some even resent having their cherished national mysteries paraded on the international marketplace, by profiteering foreigners, no less. Of course, American and British book buyers have been much more generous.

By the 1990s, though, even Lincoln had soured on speculating about the Priory of Zion and its maddeningly hermetic chief executive, Pierre Plantard. "In my old age, I've decided to stick to that which can be verified," Lincoln groused when asked for an update on the secret society.

Though disillusioned, he hadn't finished with the mysterious hill town that launched his modern quest for the Holy Grail--not to mention his book-writing career. In his solo 1991 coffee-table book, The Holy Place, Lincoln announced that whatever else it may or may not be, the town called Rennes-le-Chateau is most certainly the "Eighth Wonder of the Ancient World," an "immense geometric temple, stretching for miles across the landscape." But sounding like the reformed heretic stung once too often by the critical flail, Lincoln offered a rather modest closing caveat: "This book does not claim to have solved the riddle."

MAJOR SOURCES

Baigent, Michael; Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln. Holy Blood, Holy Grail. New York: Dell Publishing, 1983

Baigent, Michael; Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln. The Messianic Legacy. New York: Dell Publishing, 1986.

Lincoln, Henry. The Holy Place: Discovering the Eighth Wonder of the World. New York: Arcade Publishing, 1991.

144 posted on 10/31/2003 5:48:25 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | View Replies]

To: dogbyte12
"I think it was not sufficiently balanced," said Joseph DeFeo, policy analyst for the Catholic League. "The majority of the people who spoke believed in either the plausibility or the outright truth of (book author) Dan Brown's claims. The facts themselves scream out that this is a crackpot theory."

[The Knights Templar were most likely kooks.]

A rabbi, offended by the man's inhumanity, leads a revolutionary religious movement which grows into a cult, takes a wife, and is killed by those against whom he preaches. The wife isn't killed but lives on with their child or children. - Anyone saying that is kooky?

A virgin gives birth to God who is then killed only to come back to life three days later and flies up into heaven. - That's not kooky (People with earnest yet vacant stares nod agreeingly.)

Uh huh. Sure.

145 posted on 10/31/2003 5:50:38 AM PST by Jim Cane
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies]

To: Bobby777
John Domminick Crossen is that most wonderous of things, a Self proclaimed christian who does not believe in Christ. Go figure.
146 posted on 10/31/2003 5:51:47 AM PST by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]

To: TexKat
How do I contact the ABC Television Network?
Mailing Address:
ABC, Inc.
500 S. Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-4551
Phone number: (818) 460-7477

For ABC's Primetime and Daytime shows, as well as our Movies and Specials: Audience Relations Department at netaudr@abc.com

Needless to say our family will NOT be watching this piece of TRASH as it will NOT be watching the cbs hachet job on former President Reagan.

147 posted on 10/31/2003 6:44:33 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: mhking
As if a Mrs. Christ would let her Husband continuously gallivant around with His dozen good-for-nothing buddies, not to mention that Mary Magdalene tramp. If He had a wife, she wasn’t a woman of this world…
148 posted on 10/31/2003 6:49:00 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hegewisch Dupa
RE: "
As if a Mrs. Christ would let her Husband continuously gallivant around with His dozen good-for-nothing buddies, not to mention that Mary Magdalene tramp."


According to author Dan Brown, DaVinci's, The Last Supper, portrays Jesus with ELEVEN men.... and Mary Magdalene, seated to his immediate right.


http://www.artchive.com/artchive/L/leonardo/lastsupp.jpg.html
149 posted on 10/31/2003 7:16:00 AM PST by 1 spark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 148 | View Replies]

To: ET(end tyranny); Aric2000
ping to 149
150 posted on 10/31/2003 7:18:19 AM PST by 1 spark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 149 | View Replies]

To: F16Fighter
The Second Coming is THE "day" the Red Sox almost win the World Series.

Jesus will land near the mound at Fenway with the Sox one out away from celebrating because God has a great sense of humor...AND He's a Yankee Fan ;-)

Its already happened. Unless Mookie Wilson is... (oh nevermind)

151 posted on 10/31/2003 7:25:41 AM PST by kidd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: 1 spark
I had never heard that before! Curious - does he say which Disciple is missing?
152 posted on 10/31/2003 7:26:39 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 149 | View Replies]

To: stands2reason
It was the Merovigian dynasty (500-751), the Long-Haired kings, which was the bloodline according to the Holy Blood, Holy Grail theory.
153 posted on 10/31/2003 7:36:07 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: cars for sale
Where did God or Jesus say he wasn't married?
154 posted on 10/31/2003 7:36:49 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 1 spark
Dan Brown is right. That is a chick next to Jesus in the Last Supper. It doesn't mean Mary Magdalene was at the last supper. It does mean that 1500 hundred years later, Leonardo DaVinci painted it that way.

Notice that Jesus on the Right, and the person alleged to be John on the Left are not posed naturally, but in the shape of the letter M. It's Mary Magdalene. Again, this is Da Vinci posing them in the letter M, and putting Mary Magdalene there 1500 years after Christ. It in no way means that Mary was there, or was a disciple, just that Da Vinci was part of a group who believed it to be the case.

155 posted on 10/31/2003 7:37:12 AM PST by dogbyte12
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 149 | View Replies]

To: mhking
What's next, Queer Eye for the Christ Guy? Secularist liberals seethe at God and Christ being mentioned, prayed about or otherwise associated with our Constitutional Republic based on Judeo-Christian principles, but they have no problem making a buck at Christ's expense speculating about whether he was married or not. Pathetic and disgusting.
156 posted on 10/31/2003 7:40:52 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mhking
What if Spartacus had a Piper Cub?
157 posted on 10/31/2003 7:42:22 AM PST by bmwcyle (Hillary's election to President will start a civil war)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
Of course Jesus was married --- why do you think he went to the cross so willingly?

Seriously, what difference would any of this make? The issue is not Jesus and his private life (we can assume that even the Savior had a private life, can't we?), but his words, philosophy and sacrifice. One more example of the attempt to insert politically-correct dogma retroactively into the history of the church...
158 posted on 10/31/2003 7:46:00 AM PST by Wombat101 (What? Me Worry?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 157 | View Replies]

To: Dajjal
Ah yes. Is that the Guardini painting that contains the inscription?
159 posted on 10/31/2003 7:51:00 AM PST by TradicalRC (While the wicked stand confounded, Call me, with thy saints surrounded. -The Boondock Saints)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | View Replies]

To: Grampa Dave
The cold war which wasn't all that cold at times was WWIII.

Cool. That means I'm a veteran of WWIII. I like how that sounds (particularly since we won).

160 posted on 10/31/2003 7:51:37 AM PST by ConservativeLawyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 109 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180 ... 341-354 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson