[SheLion]

Break The Treaty, Break The Law

[SheLion]

Alert!!!

[TheAngryClam]

Tax the tribes!

[oh8eleven]

Because it’s not fair.
Yeah, well, life sucks then you die. Deal with it.

[dennisw]

Tax the bums same as other Americans are. Booze, gasoline and ciggies should be taxed the same on reservations as they are on the outside.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Hey Chad over here.

They are at it again!

[IYAS9YAS]

Let's see, put a gas station on tribal land, gripe about remitting tax (90% or better is sales to non-tribal members) to state. Feds force state to build/maintain roads on tribal land, but state can't collect taxes on fuel from tribes...yeah, that's fair. Oh yeah, undercut the guy down the block, not on tribal land, by whatever the tax rate is, force him out of business and raise prices back up to what they would be with the tax included. Pocket the difference. Did I miss anything? We've been dealing with this crap in Idaho for years.

[Arkinsaw]

The US government ("us") made a treaty allowing them to retain some sovereignty. The Clinton administration under Babbitt stole the treaty trust funds from them and people on this forum raised hell about it. The Clinton administration was a treaty breaking administration and a trust fund stealing administration. It surprises me to see folks here advocate behaving in the same manner.

[Right Wing Professor]

It's time to end the ridiculous fiction that Native Americans are citizens of mini-nations within the United States. It's been good for nobody; the reservations are either dirt-poor and decrepit, where there is no gambling, or corrupt and dependent on human decadence, where there is gambling. Take the reservation lands and property and distribute them to the members of the tribes; calculate the amortized monetary value of any remaining US government obligations, and share them likewise, and remove any special legal status from the tribes. If they want to continue to associate as tribal organizations, that's their right as free citizens of the United States.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

You may attempt to re-negotiate a treaty.

But breaking it is to break your word. Now I thought the days of the US Government breaking their word to the tribes was over.

Am I wrong?

[VermiciousKnid]

Anything (and I do mean damn near ANYTHING) that keeps MY money out of the greedy, grubby hands of the RINOs in Albany is Okey-dokey with me.

NY is crying foul now that they've forgotten Economics 101: when the price is too high, the consumers will either find a better deal or stop buying. Either way, the bozos here in New York are screwed.

They can try to shaft the Indian tribes, but all that will do is increase the REAL black market on cigs -- John Gotti, call your office!

I hope the Indians clean their clocks on this.

Regards,

[Petronski]

We need more relief pitchers!

[Edit35]

It's time the Indian Nation, whether in NY or elsewhere, stopped pretending they are not part of American society.

After all, the Indians are perfectly able to enjoy the bounty and protection offered by American society, by the American military, and they should be willing to pay taxes the same as everyone else.

If the Indians were still clinging to their old ways, living out in the country in a teepee and eating buffalo as a means of rejecting United States sovereignty, then maybe I could understand them trying to remain separate.

But this treaty business is simply a charade, an effort to keep all the casino profits and tobacco profits that, if they were any other ethnicity, they would have to pay.

[BSunday]

What gets me is that most people who are against breaking the treaty would also be in favor of breaking another treaty that was signed by the last president - the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

[A CA Guy]

Tax the tribes for sure.

[CFC__VRWC]

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