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Doctor Says Schiavo Likely Victim of 'Some Kind of Trauma'
CNSNews.com ^ | 10/28/03 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 10/28/2003 2:28:32 AM PST by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - One of the most important battles in the fight over the life or death of Terri Schindler Schiavo has been the professional opinions of dueling medical experts. But the Schindler family has found a new ally in that battle - one it did not seek out - in the person of a famed New York forensic pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden.

Michael Schiavo, Terri's husband, and his doctors won a $1.2 million medical malpractice lawsuit based on the claim that Terri's brain injury was caused by a three-stage progression of a potassium imbalance that caused a heart attack, depriving Terri's brain of oxygen. The Schindler family has long believed otherwise.

"It's extremely rare for a 20-year-old to have a cardiac arrest from low potassium who has no other diseases," Baden said Friday on Fox News Channel's On the Record with Greta Van Susteren, restating that such an occurrence would be "extremely unusual unless she had certain kind of diseases, which she doesn't have.

"She was in her 20s. The reason that she's in the state she's in is because there was a period of time, maybe five minutes or eight minutes, when not enough oxygen was going to her brain," Baden explained. "That can happen because the heart stops for five or eight minutes, but she had a healthy heart from what we can see."

Baden has a different theory about what caused Terri's brain injury, based on a 1991 bone-scan report that only became available to the Schindlers in 1998.

"That bone scan describes her as having a head injury. That's why she's there. That's why she's getting a bone scan," Baden explained, "and a head injury can cause, lead to the 'vegetative state' that Ms. Schiavo is [allegedly] in now."

Dr. W. Campbell Walker completed the March 7, 1991, bone scan, which was requested to "evaluate for trauma" as the result of a suspected "closed head injury."

"This patient has a history of trauma," Walker wrote. "The presumption is that the other multiple areas of abnormal activity also relate to previous trauma."

Walker listed apparent injuries to the ribs, thoracic vertebrae, both sacroiliac joints, both ankles and both knees.

"It does show evidence that there are other injuries, other bone fractures that are in a healing stage," Baden explained, adding that those apparent injuries were likely the result of "some kind of trauma. The trauma could be from an auto accident, the trauma could be from a fall, or the trauma could be from some kind of beating that she obtained from somebody somewhere. It's something that should have been investigated in 1991."

Baden, author of three books on forensic pathology, has served as chief pathologist for the City of New York and as director of the Forensic Sciences Unit of the New York State Police.

Pamela Hennessy, spokeswoman for the Schindler family, expressed their hope that "something positive will come out of this.

"This is what that family and their doctors have been saying for a number of years," Hennessy told CNSNews.com Monday. "Finally, they have an independent and unsolicited expert coming forward to concur with their suspicions. Dr. Baden has said that 'this matter simply must be investigated,' and that is what the family has been asking for since 1998."

Investigation launched by advocacy group for the disabled

The Advocacy Center for Persons with Disabilities (ACPD) describes itself as "Florida's protection and advocacy program for persons with disabilities" on its website.

The agency receives federal funding to administer the "Protection and Advocacy System for Persons with Developmental Disabilities (PADD)" program. The law that created the program also gives the agency wide latitude in investigating alleged abuse or neglect of the disabled.

"PADD...has the authority to pursue legal, administrative and other appropriate remedies or approaches to protect and advocate the rights of individuals with developmental disabilities who are or who may be eligible for treatment, services or habilitation, or who are being considered for a change in living arrangements," the ACPD website explains, "[and] has the authority to investigate incidents of abuse and neglect when reported if there is probable cause to believe the incidents occurred."

Richard LaBelle, an attorney and ACPD board member involved in the investigation, said he does not know how long the inquiry will take.

"I think to the extent that Terri is still alive and will be receiving food and water," LaBelle told the Chicago Tribune, "we think that's a positive development."

How quickly the ACPD makes a determination will depend on how difficult it is for the agency to gain access to Terri's medical records and to the people it needs to interview on both sides of the legal battle.

The ACPD is to be granted "access at reasonable times and locations to any resident who is an individual with a developmental disability in a facility that is providing services, supports and other assistance to such a resident," according to relevant statutes. The agency also "may bring suit on behalf of individuals with developmental disabilities against a state or agencies or instrumentalities of a state."

That authority to bring lawsuits potentially includes actions against a disabled person's legal guardian, as guardianship is considered an "instrumentality" of the state government. Michael Schiavo's decisions regarding his wife's health care, or the alleged lack thereof, have all presumably been made in his official capacity as her guardian.

"They are conducting a pretty comprehensive investigation into past and current allegations of abuse, allegations that Terri is being abused, neglected and exploited," Hennessy said. "They're going to be looking over the current condition that she is in, the fact that therapy has been withheld, the fact that she's kept in isolation. All these things are abuses."

Schiavo's attorney and so-called "right-to-die" advocate George Felos has denied allegations that Schiavo assaulted his wife in the past or is presently "abusing" her by allegedly denying medical care and therapy. Felos has refused to talk to CNSNews.com, however, since mid-September.

Schiavo is believed to be challenging the constitutionality of "Terri's Law," legislation passed by the Florida legislature last week giving Gov. Jeb Bush authority to order Terri's feeding tube re-inserted and her nutrition and hydration resumed. Felos filed a challenge before the bill was signed into law but was told to resubmit the filing later.

Terri's Law also requires the chief judge of the circuit court in Pinellas County, Fla., where Terri lives, to appoint an independent guardian to replace Schiavo. University of South Florida public health Professor Jay Wolfson is expected to be named at a scheduled Nov. 5 hearing. Hennessy said the family is not pleased about that prospect.

"The family and the attorneys are not comfortable with Dr. Wolfson," Hennessy said. "He has stated on local television that he is opposed to Terri's Law, that he is uncomfortable with it, so we feel that creates an instant bias."

Hennessy believes attorneys for the Schindler family will submit an objection to Wolfson's appointment.

While doctors hired by Schiavo, and one court-appointed doctor, say Terri is in a "persistent vegetative state" - defined by Florida law as "a permanent and irreversible state of unconsciousness in which there is an absence of voluntary or cognitive behavior and an inability to interact purposefully with one's environment" - numerous other medical professionals have noted that Terri responds to the sound of her mother's voice by smiling, tracks moving objects with her eyes and responds to tickling or jokes with laughter. None of those responses, they argue, could come from a person in a persistent vegetative state.

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To: FL_engineer
"ELECTRICAL LABOTOMY"

Agreed! I do know electric shock therapy wipes out someone's memory also

41 posted on 10/28/2003 5:32:03 PM PST by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: kattracks
BTTT for another part of the truth.
42 posted on 10/28/2003 5:40:04 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: AmericaUnited
Attempted murder?
43 posted on 10/28/2003 5:40:50 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: kattracks
I've read that up to $2 million was won in the lawsuit --- that does seem more than enough to provide for Terri --- even in a nursing home although she needs minimual care --- 2 hours a day max? A daily bath, 3 feedings done by a tube, some turning to prevent bedsores. Since he never paid for therapy apparently --- what happened to the money and if was supposed to go for her care ---- did it?
44 posted on 10/28/2003 5:52:06 PM PST by FITZ
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To: tuckrdout
He may want her dead now because all the money that was to provide for her is somehow gone. I wonder where he spent it all? I know the lawyer got a lot --- but I think a thorough accounting of the money should be made.
45 posted on 10/28/2003 5:53:25 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ; sweetliberty; Calpernia; All
Hi

The Schlinders are with on Greta right now to rebut Michael's LKL interview!

Please ping Terri's list!
46 posted on 10/28/2003 7:43:04 PM PST by msmagoo
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The segment was brief - Greta is moving on to the CA fire situation now.


Greta was asking about the potassium when I tuned in; said that bulemics lose potassium through vomiting.

Pat Anderson said the bulemia is "just a theory."

Pat said there were elevated glucose levels in Terri's blood; speculated that EMT's ran an IV on the way to the ER which may have skewed the blood workup.

Greta asked Bobby if the family had ever tried to sit down and talk things out, asked Bobby when he had last seen Michael.

Bobby said he hadn't spoken to MS since just before the trial in 2000. (?)

MS told him any contact from that point on would be through his attorney.

That's all I was able to pick out.



47 posted on 10/28/2003 7:55:19 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: sweetliberty; deannadurbin; spokeshave; JustPiper
>>"ELECTRICAL LABOTOMY"
>>I cannot imagine that a doctor would knowingly do such a thing.

Well it does seem to me that Mikey has close connections with some of the most vile scum on this planet. Plus Mikey himself has medical training and works as a nurse and RESPIRATORY THERAPIST at an E.R.

Does anyone know if Terri was, in her earlier days, ever housed at a treatment facility that has electro-shock therapy?

The only rehab Mikey ever admits to providing was getting lead(s) placed into her skull and having electrical 'therapy' administered. That seems worthless IMHO, except to deaden motor functions or kill off memory cells.

If any so-called medical people had been helping Mikey, it wouldn't be all that risky to do that, it would be more like an insurance policy to keep her from talking.

48 posted on 10/28/2003 8:31:10 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: tuckrdout; AmericaUnited; cyn; JustPiper; EternalVigilance
This is a sign of anorexia, of course. But, Terri weighed 120 pounds! That doesn't sound anorexic to me!

5'3 and 120 lbs isn't even close to anorexic. That's just her ideal weight. No chance of that causing electrolyte imbalances,

Plus her heart showed NO 'ENZYME MARKER' INDICATORS of a heart attack.

So her HEART was NOT DEPRIVED of oxygen (continued beating) for the 5 to 8 minutes while HER BRAIN WAS deprived of oxygen, which would have happened exactly that way with a strangulation!

49 posted on 10/28/2003 8:31:44 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: kattracks
IF this story is barking up the right tree- it would certainly explain why therapy has been witheld from Terri for all this time and why the jerk of a husband has been wanting to pull the plug....
50 posted on 10/28/2003 9:16:13 PM PST by TheBattman ("It's a feature, not a bug....")
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To: FL_engineer
Truth Bump!
51 posted on 10/28/2003 9:53:20 PM PST by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: MVV
You're not a very smart Catholic are you?
The Catholic church DOES indeed allow cremation. The body of the deceased is cremated after the funeral mass.

Go look it up in the Catechism.
52 posted on 11/19/2003 10:56:02 AM PST by DCLXVI
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