[NYer]

Dr. John Young, left, Dr. William Maxfield, Robert Schindler Sr. and Dr. William Hammesfahr spoke to the media Friday. "This woman is not in a persistent vegetative state," Young said.

[NYer]

"This is a case about a judicial system making an error," Hammesfahr said.

Bears repeating!!!

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[Broadside Joe]

"Once the governor thinks it is the proper role of the Legislature and he set aside the judgment of the courts, that requires us to get the courts to declare that is just unconstitutional," said Howard Simon, executive director of the ACLU of Florida."

Oh yes Judaical activism is ok but never should a legislature legislate.


"Court-appointed doctors and physicians hired by Michael Schiavo's attorneys have testified that Mrs. Schiavo has no consciousness"

And of course hand picked doctors wouldn't have a bias..

[tioga]

Continued prayers for Terri, her family, Gov Bush, and all supporters that they will prevail for the dignity of all life.

[punster]

There are many doctors (neurologists, some of who called the Neal Boortz show) who have said this is a persistent vegetative state. Those same doctors said there is no return from a persistent vegetative state. I would suggest doing some diagnostic effort to assess who is correct.

1. I would suggest doing a PET scan to determine the degree of brain damage.

2. An EEG would also give some indication of whether there is any self-awareness.

[verity]

Maxfield and Hammesfahr appear to be in a vegetative state.

[CedarDave]

CNN had a short "legal" discussion on Terri's condition this morning. The ACLU rep said that Gov. Bush's action (ordering the tube reinserted) would be overturned in court Monday. The other attorney (supporting Terri) also agreed it will be overturned quickly.

Any thoughts from legal Freepers on this??

[Agnes Heep]

I wouldn't care if she had a stalk growing out of her head and roots growing out of her bottom. You don't actively kill an innocent person, no matter what condition they're in.

[SuziQ]

As the family pleaded its case, the American Civil Liberties Union announced it would join in the representation of Michael Schiavo to help overturn "Terri's Law," the measure passed by lawmakers Tuesday that allowed Gov. Jeb Bush to intervene in Mrs. Schiavo's case

This explains why Ollie North calls them the "Always Careless with Liberties Union"

[John Jorsett]

Why was it necessary to put this on every state group?

[ODDITHER]

The only way to prove that Terri is in a a vegetative state is to give the family two years to provide therapy that Michael has refused, and show the court that she indeed can improve. At the end of two years, either Terri will be the same, or worse, or you will see improvement.

Had Michael used the same monetary resources, in proving that she was beyond help, that he has paid to the attorney to convince the courts that she was beyond help, I don't think you would have seen the same court battles.

I imagine that Michael started this court battle either because of greed or guilt, never imagining that at the end of the battle he would not profit financially or at least be absolved of having anything to do with her present condition. If Terri gets better - she might be able to tell someone what really happened that night.

Oh but what a tangled web we weave - if at first we do deceave.

[WOSG]

"In a 2002 order by Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer ruling that Mrs. Schiavo could not recover,"

Neither can Steven Hawking. (severe muscular dystrophy). This man cannot care for himself at all, yet won a Nobel Prize.

I dont know her brain state, but it seems beyond callous and cruel to kill a woman whose OWN PARENTS want to save and care for.

The husband is an absolute lout. He should divorce her and let the parents take the daughter they love under their care.

[gg188]

She likes music and once smiled broadly when her brother told her he met Bruce Springsteen.

That's irony for you.

It's people like Springsteen and his ilk that want to kill the poor woman.

[EGPWS]

As the family pleaded its case, the American Civil Liberties Union announced it would join in the representation of Michael Schiavo to help overturn "Terri's Law," the measure passed by lawmakers Tuesday that allowed Gov. Jeb Bush to intervene in Mrs. Schiavo's case.

A good statement to cinch the attitudes of those in doubt about the ACLU's directives and motivations.

Perhaps this will change the mind's of the "intellectually challanged" who may have financially supported them in the past.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

[She smiles and cries. She recognizes her mom and dad. She is shy around strangers. She likes music and once smiled broadly when her brother told her he met Bruce Springsteen.]

There you have it. She perfectly fits the ACLU's definition of "a persistent, vegetative, comotose state".

The flagship of the amoral death-worshiping left never met a fetus, baby, infirm, or elderly that they didn't want to see murdered.

[sweetliberty]

Terri's army ping! Apologies if you have already been pinged to this thread. I know some of you are on several lists.

If anyone wants on or off the "Terri's Army" ping list, please let me know.

[sweetliberty]

"Once the governor thinks it is the proper role of the Legislature and he set aside the judgment of the courts, that requires us to get the courts to declare that is just unconstitutional,"

Hey *ssh*le! The courts are not God! Why don't you take up a collection and buy yourself a freakin' clue! Terri's most fundamental Constitutional right is the right to LIFE! The rest of it is built on that SIMPLE premise, one that simple-minded pod people such as yourself can't seem to wrap your little pea brains around. If Michael Schiavo were to go into Terri's room and smother her with a pillow, would he be guilty of murder, or simply of "helping her die?" And yet, that would be more humane than what he is trying to get the court to allow him to do to her.

The government actually worked just exactly the way it is supposed to work for once when the people rose up and moved the hands of the legislative and the executive branches to overturn an UNCONSTITUTIONAL decision by an out of control judiciary. Don't you just hate when that happens? Did they ever teach your dumb@$$ in public school that we are a government OF the people, BY the people and FOR the people? The people can tell the difference between allowing someone to die who is being forced to live and allowing someone to live that is being forced to die! < /unladylike rant >

[Budge]

Court-appointed doctors and physicians hired by Michael Schiavo's attorneys have testified that Mrs. Schiavo has no consciousness. They describe her groans, the opening and closing of her eyes and her smiles as involuntary reflexes.

This doesn't tell us anything, does it.

[JustPiper]

"My daughter is not in a persistent vegetative state," she said. "She is not a plastic plant like Mr. Felos says she is. She is extremely brain-damaged, and she's a human being."

[slimer]

"Once the governor thinks it is the proper role of the Legislature and he set aside the judgment of the courts, that requires us to get the courts to declare that is just unconstitutional,"

And no freaking judge is ever going to admit to making a mistake. It wouldn't suprise me if the judge was complicit in ordering her death sentence.

[GeekDejure]

In practice "PVS" and "minimally conscious" are code words for "lives not worth living." It's only a few syllables from there to the ultimate dehumanizing label: "vegetables." And who could be expected to care for "vegetables"?

Alas! Even vegetables need food & water in order to survive !!!

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