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Whatever Happened to the Family-Friendly Disney Corporation of Our Childhood?
Comte De Maistre

Posted on 10/22/2003 3:41:54 PM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

The recent controversy at the New Republic over dirty and trashy movies produced at the Disney Corporation, raised an important issue. Unfortunately, the New Republic writer, Greg Easterbrook, tried to over-simplify the issue by making it a matter of religion. Religion is not the issue. Michael Eisner and the vulgar and disgusting Weinstein brothers of Miramax (a Disney subsidiary) do not make trashy movies because they were born into Jewish homes, any more than Bill Clinton's amoral behavior can be attributed to having been raised in a Baptist home.

We cannot judge people based on what church or temple they attend. We can only judge them on the basis of their behavior - or as the civil rights supporters like to say, "on the content of their character".

But we cannot avoid the fact that, the Disney corporation, as it exists today, is not the Disney corporation that existed when we were kids. The old family-friendly Disney perished almost two decades ago.

The old Disney represented true American-ness, and the highest values and ideals of Western Civilization. The people who run the old Disney were a civilized people, dedicated to preserving the high moral and cultural standards of our civilization. Walt Disney himself was a real American, and a patriot who loved his country and culture with an intensity that is almost forgotten today. In the 1950s, Walt Disney supported congressional investigation to expose communists in Hollywood, and as a result, he was hated by the many leftists who comprise the Hollywood elite. But his most enduring legacy is that virtually all the movies his corporation produced, were the sort of movies that parents could watch with their children.

But that is not the case today. Many Disney movies are the sort that children are legally prohibited from seeing. The Disney of today peddles filth, vulgarity, debauchery, depravity, degeneracy, and just plain old crap. They also specialize in movies that bash Christians, most notably, "Priest" and "Dogma". Protests by offended Christians have no impact on the new Disney's efforts to pollute American culture. Sure, there are a few admirable movies that are made to appeal to those who remember the old Disney. But the corporate culture stinks. These are the people who host Gay Day at Disney World, a venue freqented by children. In the old days, known gays were never allowed anywhere near children.

Disney's corporate culture has changed. The old Disney was run by true Americans - who advanced American culture and civilization to a higher level. The New Disney (including its Miramax division) is run by profiteering pirates, savages, barbarians, brigands, perverts, libertines, moral relativists, smut peddlers and culture-destroyers.


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KEYWORDS: civilized; disney; gregeasterbrook; morality; profamily
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Disney is a true Greek tragedy. A once civilized corporation, managed by civilized people, is drowning in the vulgarity and filth being promoted by the new crooked owners.

And we cannot just reduce the whole thing to the profit motive. Walt Disney proved that one could make family-friendly movies, and still make plenty of money.

If we see the new Disney purely as a profit-driven enterprise, does anyone really think they would make racist or homophobic movies if it was profitable? It is clear that Disney uses a PC form of "moral standards". Bashing ethnic minorities is taboo, but bashing Christians is okay, irrespective of the profit motive.

1 posted on 10/22/2003 3:41:56 PM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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I think you nailed it. Good post.
2 posted on 10/22/2003 3:50:00 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Whatever Happened to the Family-Friendly Disney Corporation of Our Childhood?

Mais ou sont les neiges d'antan?
François Villon
3 posted on 10/22/2003 3:51:25 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: ComtedeMaistre
< Whatever Happened to the Family-Friendly Disney Corporation of Our Childhood? >


Walt died.
4 posted on 10/22/2003 3:52:25 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
It died with Walt Disney. :(
5 posted on 10/22/2003 3:52:38 PM PDT by madison10
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To: ComtedeMaistre
I've tried to get all those Disney Classics. Sammy the Seal, Huck Finn, Daniel Boone, and countless others. Not much luck! Only Daniel Boone was to be found. I cannot imagine Disney keeping them hidden in the vault. The stuff they produced in the 60's was priceless.
6 posted on 10/22/2003 3:54:24 PM PDT by blackdog ("This is everybody's fault but mine")
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By the way, according to the Schweizers, Disney also owns one of the largest soft-porn distributors in the country. The conglomerate has exclusive deals with some of the most prominent pornographic stars of cinematic sewage.

Dirt on Disney Book

7 posted on 10/22/2003 3:57:34 PM PDT by Porterville (I am a cynical bastard.)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Disney has a wonderful history of Catholic bashing. Anyone remember the TV series "Priest"?

Marlon Brando was right.
8 posted on 10/22/2003 3:59:28 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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These are the people who host Gay Day at Disney World, a venue freqented by children.

I doubt it really matters how many times I post this when people already have their minds made up, but Disney does not endorse the Gay Days event in any way, shape or form. It is completely unofficial.

Disney has diversified their operations over the years, for better or for worse, but they still put out a good deal of family friendly product. They recently distributed "The Other Side of Heaven," a very positive movie about a Mormon missionary in the South Pacific, and have struck gold year after year thanks to their partnership with Pixar.

My advice: buy the family friendly stuff that Disney produces and shun all the crap that comes out of Miramax. If Disney finds it more profitable to focus on family entertainment, they'll focus on that instead of adult-oriented products.
9 posted on 10/22/2003 3:59:53 PM PDT by UncleDick
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Some really nasty dirt about Disney
10 posted on 10/22/2003 4:00:28 PM PDT by Porterville (I am a cynical bastard.)
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I haven't seen a Disney film in forty years, but even back in the fifties they were pretty much sentimental dreck; even the cartoons lacked the 'edge' that Warner Brothers cartoons had.

Maybe the current product is as disgusting as posters here seem to think (I have no way of knowing), but Freepers who think there was ever a Disney 'Golden Age' are fooling themselves.

Well, OK, some of the animated feature-length films had great artwork, but even there the plots were vapid.

11 posted on 10/22/2003 4:01:34 PM PDT by Grut
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To: ComtedeMaistre
What happened is that Joe McCarthy couldn't get the job done.
12 posted on 10/22/2003 4:02:34 PM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................God Bless and Keep Terri.....................)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Answer: Michael Eisner.
13 posted on 10/22/2003 4:02:38 PM PDT by quark
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To: Porterville
I've read that book. A must read. I nearly barfed after reading the chapter on how the Disney animators morphed Pocahontas into a PC crap-fest.
14 posted on 10/22/2003 4:03:30 PM PDT by nospinzone (What does it say on the bottom of Coke bottles at DU? It says "Open Other End.")
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That web site is complete joke. One of their objections: "The Disney release "Hercules" portrays a God from ancient Greece, along with fellow Gods and Goddesses."

Give me a break.
15 posted on 10/22/2003 4:05:24 PM PDT by UncleDick
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To: ComtedeMaistre
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=eisner+Birch+disney+percent+gay

According to the AFA Journal, Elizabeth Birch, a prominent homosexual activist, said to Disney CEO Michael Eisner "30 percent of your employees are gay," and Eisner replied, "You're wrong, Elizabeth. It's 40 percent."

Hmm... 40%?   That wouldn't be reverse discrimination, would it?

16 posted on 10/22/2003 4:07:42 PM PDT by VxH
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Disney doesn't promote the "Gay Days", but they certainly don't seem to mind them, either. A lack of disapproval will be seen as approval, rightly or wrongly.

You're probably right about them returning to a family focus if it were more profitable - but let's face it, it's undoubtedly sheer profit motive that's driven them in this direction anyway. (Look how profitable the porn industry has become, for example.)

My biggest objection is that Disney continues to mislabel their products. For example, the "ABC Family" channel certainly isn't. At 10:30 on a weekday morning, they showed the movie Casual Sex, apparently as a lead-in to Dragonball-Z. Produce whatever you want, but call it what it is.
17 posted on 10/22/2003 4:10:06 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Yes, they almost were bought and sold in pieces to the highest bidder...

>>>>The old family-friendly Disney perished almost two decades ago.
18 posted on 10/22/2003 4:14:56 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: VxH
Eisner was on the ropes several times when Disney stock hit the skids awhile back. Wonder how that S.O.B. survived?
19 posted on 10/22/2003 4:15:23 PM PDT by truthandjustice1
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To: ComtedeMaistre
What ever happened to Disney? It had a Queer Eye makeover! Once that 2% infiltrates any organization, it goes straight to hell!
20 posted on 10/22/2003 4:16:55 PM PDT by Lucky2 (If I find out you're a liberal, please leave me the hell alone and crawl back into your hole.)
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