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The second American civil war: What it's about: Part II
townhall.com ^ | 10/21/03 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 10/20/2003 9:31:19 PM PDT by kattracks

In part one, I described nine areas of major conflict between the Right and the Left in American life, a conflict that rivals the First Civil War in intensity, though thankfully not in violence. Here in part two, I describe 15 others.
 
The Left regards American nationalism as dangerous, is more comfortable celebrating world citizenship and prefers that America follow the lead of international organizations such as the United Nations. The Right celebrates American nationalism, distrusts world organizations, prefers that America lead humanity and regards the United Nations as largely a moral wasteland.

 The Left believes that sensitivity to minorities' feelings trumps the majority's will. The Right believes that when not immoral, the majority's will trumps that of the minority. For example, because some employees do not celebrate Christmas, the Left believes that organizations should rename their Christmas party the "holiday party." The Right believes that because the vast majority of Americans celebrate Christmas, the party should be called a Christmas party.

 The Left believes that a woman must have an unrestricted right to choose an abortion but no right to choose a silicone breast implant. The Right believes that society must decide when abortions are moral and legal but a woman has the right to choose to have a silicone breast implant.

 The Left believes that attacking world poverty will greatly reduce Islamic terror. The Right believes that poverty is largely unrelated to Islamic terror.

 The Left believes that George W. Bush attacked Iraq mostly for economic gain. The Right believes George W. Bush attacked Iraq to protect America and to change the Arab world for the better.

 The Left believes that a high rate of taxation of people who earn more money is a moral imperative. The Right believes that allowing people to keep as much of their money as possible is a moral imperative.

 The Left identifies with the values of most university professors in the liberal arts and values their insights. The Right regards most of these professors as moral idiots.

 The Left believes that the greatest danger to mankind, as former Vice President Al Gore wrote in his book "Earth in the Balance," is the threat to the environment. The Right believes that the greatest danger to humanity is, as it always has been, human evil.

 The Left believes that marriage should be redefined and that judges alone are entitled to do so. The Right believes that the millennia-old definition of marriage as between members of the two sexes is inviolable and that it can't be redefined by jurists.

 The Left believes that in terms of parenthood, all a child needs is love, whether that love comes from a single parent, two men, two women or some other adult. The Right believes that children do best with the love of two married parents of the opposite sex.

 The Left believes that opposing race-based college dorms, graduation ceremonies, congressional caucuses or professional organizations is racist. The Right believes that race-based college dorms, graduation ceremonies, congressional caucuses and professional organizations are racist.

 The Left believes that labeling any enemy of the United States "evil" is wrong. It was wrong when President Ronald Reagan labeled the Soviet Union an "evil empire," and it was wrong when President George W. Bush labeled Iran, Iraq and North Korea an "axis of evil." The Right believes that not labeling such regimes "evil" is a sign of moral confusion and appeasement.

 The Left is preoccupied with health. Leftist parents are more likely to believe that it is preferable that their teenager cheat on a test than smoke. Parents on the Right are more likely to believe that it is better that their teenager smoke than cheat.

 The Left believes that just as America and the Soviet Union were equally responsible for the Cold War, Israel and the Palestinians are equally responsible for Middle East violence. The Right believes that just as the Soviets were responsible for the Cold War, the Arab enemies of Israel are responsible for Middle East violence.

 The Left believes that criticism of Christianity is important and that criticism of Islam is bigoted. The Right believes that criticism of Islam is important and that most criticism of Christianity is bigoted.

 I am well aware that not everyone on the Left agrees with every leftist position and not everyone on the Right agrees with every rightist one. Nat Hentoff is a leftist who doesn't support abortion rights; Pat Buchanan is a rightist who doesn't support Israel. But the existence of individual exceptions does not negate the fact that all the positions listed here as Left or Right are correctly labeled.

 The fact is that this country is profoundly divided on virtually every major social, personal and political issue. We are in the midst of the Second American Civil War. Who wins it will determine the nature of this country as much as the winner of the first did.

©2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldcivilwar; conservatives; culturewars; cwii; dennisprager; theleft
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To: jpl
Many states are becoming bolder and bolder in open defiance of federal statute in these areas.

The list will be expanded, as it should be.

201 posted on 10/22/2003 9:44:19 AM PDT by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: archy
And I've had conversations with at least one congressman who's become a Second Amendment absolutist not because he sees it as so envisioned by the founders or for the benefits it brings to American citizens, both of which he acknowledges, but because he really fears the reaction of his state government in the event of federal excess in attempting to disarm the citizens.

In other words, precisely the reason most of us argue that the Second Amendment exists.
A foul weather absolutist?

You can't make up stuff this good!

202 posted on 10/22/2003 11:38:51 AM PDT by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: ought-six
Well having actually read and enjoyed Travis's book let me say a few things. First off it has one of the nicest covers of any book I've bought recently. It positively POPS off the shelf in my library. It is extremely professionally produced, from that standpoint. Secondly the book is well proof read. I did not find any errors in it whatsoever. I buy lots of books from mainstream publishers that have WAY MORE errors in them. Lastly, and most importantly it is A DAMN GOOD READ! The character development is outstanding and the pace keeps you interested. All in all I felt I got my moneys worth and will definately by the next installment. Oh, yeah, it's available at Amazon. What else do you want? Would it be a better book if it said Simon & Schuster in little letters on the bottom of the cover? I don't think so.

I think
203 posted on 10/22/2003 11:50:47 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
by = bye .
now *I* need an editor for my FR postings!
204 posted on 10/22/2003 11:52:31 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
Hey, if you like the book, that should be the only thing that matters from your standpoint. I am usually suspicious of vanity published books, since the vast majority are amateurish, poorly-written rants that usually have nothing worthwhile to say. If one has to pay, at one's own expense, to have his or her book published, it tells me no legitimate publisher thought it was worth spit.
205 posted on 10/23/2003 5:13:36 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: wardaddy
If it is ever to be, I'd rather sooner than later. I'm not getting any younger.

The longer we can stave it off, the more time some kids have a chance to grow up and come to age. I fear though, that the longer it festers, the worse the eventual eruption may be.

-archy-/-

206 posted on 10/23/2003 6:25:20 AM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Protagoras
The list will be expanded, as it should be.

Would you be in favor of states defying the feds on laws covering things like freedom of speech and civil rights protections? If not, on precisely what basis do the states get to decide which laws they'll obey and which ones they'll ignore?

208 posted on 10/26/2003 2:31:17 PM PST by jpl
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To: clamper1797
So far it's been a non-shooting war ... so far

Unfortunately, I have always believed that someday it would be a shooting war. I still do. I hope I am wrong, but I still do.

209 posted on 10/26/2003 2:40:02 PM PST by Mark17
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To: jpl
If not, on precisely what basis do the states get to decide which laws they'll obey and which ones they'll ignore?

They get to ignore all the unconstitutional ones. In fact, thay have an obligation to do so, but they are too cowardly or greedy to fulfill their obligation.

210 posted on 10/26/2003 7:14:05 PM PST by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: SwankyC
ping for later
211 posted on 10/26/2003 7:15:47 PM PST by SwankyC
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To: Protagoras
They get to ignore all the unconstitutional ones. In fact, thay have an obligation to do so, but they are too cowardly or greedy to fulfill their obligation.

Believe me, I'm all in favor of the Constitution. But my understanding of our system is that the courts, and not the states, ultimately decide on the constitutionality of laws. And defending our country's borders is not only a constitutional mandate, it's supposed to be one of the government's top priorities.

212 posted on 10/27/2003 5:06:36 AM PST by jpl
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To: kattracks
I note with some interest that there is nothing on the WOsD in Mr. Prager's articles. Kind of hard to bring such a topic up in the discussion since it is one of the few areas where both sides of the aisle are in agreement.
/rant
213 posted on 10/27/2003 5:23:17 AM PST by philman_36
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To: jpl
Believe me, I'm all in favor of the Constitution.

Good, so pay particular attention to the tenth amendment. That makes a huge number of federal programs as well as the WOD unconstitutional. And I don't need, and no person of normal intelligence needs, the supreme court to tell me that.

When the process of packing the court is complete, and it almost is, everything the federal government does will be concidered constitutional. And the war will begin shortly thereafter.

214 posted on 10/27/2003 8:09:43 AM PST by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: Protagoras
No, but hating Democrats make sense and feels good.
216 posted on 10/31/2003 11:56:33 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm a conservative...not necessarily a Republican.)
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To: sygmalion
You are apparently on the wrong website, as FR is for CONSERVATIVES to debate. It is not a website for leftists who like to expound their leftist views. You spout many words, thinking yourself clever. You expose your leftist/liberal moral relativist ideology instead.
217 posted on 11/01/2003 12:07:10 AM PST by First Amendment
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To: pram
I think we are closer than anyone imagines. Right now that could ammount to the Dred Scott desision of a CWII is now taking place in Florida. There may be many of their issues that may make the LEFT heat up the war but there are only TWO that I see inflaming the RIGHT to war like levels. These are "gun control" finally reaching its goal of a full ban on firearms and legal INVOLUNTARY euthanasia being added to abortion in the attack on the sanctity of life by the left. The case in Florida involves a brain damaged woman named Terri Schiavo that has received great publicity lately here on Free Republic. Her huspand Michael intends to euthanise her by removing her feeding tube even though there is NO LIVING WILL allowing for this. This whole case points up another difference between the Right and the Left that is becomming increasingly "hot" now.

The RIGHT believes in a GOD GIVEN SANCTITY to human life that only allows its taking by Biblicaly mandated capital punishment for heinous crime, self defense against having a heinous crime committed on ones person, just (defensive) war or by GOD Himself at its own mandated end.
The left believes that humans are only animals and that human life can be taken right up to the last moments of the birth process (partial birth abortion) or when it loses its "quality" by being put in a "vegitative state" (euthanasia).

If Terri Schiavo's euthanasia is indeed involuntary and being done by as painfull a process as its opponants say starvation-dehydration is to anyone with any consusness at all this case could indeed lead to a Dred Scott descision that dehumanises the disabled the way the original dehumanized Blacks. Millions of euthaniasias of this type in the way we now have millions of abortions would certainly inflame the right into bringing out the rifles and the confederate flags again.

I would also like to be on the CWII ping list.
218 posted on 11/01/2003 12:59:31 AM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: pram
sygmalion: Since Oct 24, 2003

This DUmmy will try to post an article of this cr*p and get ZOTed and fed to the Viking Kitties soon enough.

219 posted on 11/01/2003 1:16:22 AM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: Coral Snake
I agree. I have followed the Terry Schiavo threads with great attention, anger, and sorrow. I am planning a longer post, partly to kick sygmalion's butt, and prove him/her/it wrong, and partly to prove my point that the schism is really between those who accept the reality of moral absolutes, and those who worship their own minds. As Ann Coulter said at the end of "Treason", the difference between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives see that man is made in the image of God, and liberals think they *are* God.
220 posted on 11/01/2003 8:51:36 AM PST by First Amendment
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