Auschwitz in America

world net daily ^ | 10-18-03 | William J. Federer

[MarMema]

Even before the rise of Adolf Hitler's Third Reich, the way for the gruesome Nazi Holocaust of human extermination and cruel butchery was being prepared in the 1930 German Weimar Republic through the medical establishment and philosophical elite's adoption of the "quality of life" concept in place of the "sanctity of life."

The Nuremberg trials, exposing the horrible Nazi war crimes, revealed that Germany's trend toward atrocity began with their progressive embrace of the Hegelian doctrine of "rational utility," where an individual's worth is in relation to their contribution to the state, rather than determined in light of traditional moral, ethical and religious values.

This gradual transformation of national public opinion, promulgated through media and education, was described in an article written by the British commentator Malcolm Muggeridge entitled "The Humane Holocaust" and in an article written by former United States Surgeon General, C. Everett Koop, M.D., entitled "The Slide to Auschwitz," both published in The Human Life Review, 1977 and 1980 respectively.

Muggeridge stated: "Near at hand, we have been accorded, for those that have eyes to see, an object lesson in what the quest for 'quality of life' without reference to 'sanctity of life' can involve ... [namely] the great Nazi Holocaust, whose TV presentation has lately been harrowing viewers throughout the Western world. In this televised version, an essential consideration has been left out – namely, that the origins of the Holocaust lay, not in Nazi terrorism and anti-Semitism, but in pre-Nazi Weimar Germany's acceptance of euthanasia and mercy-killing as humane and estimable. ...

"It took no more than three decades to transform a war crime into an act of compassion, thereby enabling the victors in the war against Nazism to adopt the very practices for which the Nazis had been solemnly condemned at Nuremberg."

The transformation followed thus: The concept that the elderly and terminally ill should have the right to die was promoted in books, newspapers, literature and even entertainment films, the most popular of which were entitled "Ich klage an (I accuse)" and "Mentally Ill."

One euthanasia movie, based on a novel by a National Socialist doctor, actually won a prize at the world-famous Venice Film Festival! Extreme hardship cases were cited, which increasingly convinced the public to morally approve of euthanasia. The medical profession gradually grew accustomed to administering death to patients who, for whatever reasons, felt their low "quality of life" rendered their lives not worth living, or as it was put, lebensunwerten Lebens, (life unworthy of life).

In an Associated Press release published in the New York Times Oct. 10, 1933, entitled "Nazi Plan to Kill Incurables to End Pain; German Religious Groups Oppose Move," it was stated: "The Ministry of Justice, in a detailed memorandum explaining the Nazi aims regarding the German penal code, today announced its intentions to authorize physicians to end the sufferings of the incurable patient. The memorandum ... proposed that it shall be possible for physicians to end the tortures of incurable patients, upon request, in the interest of true humanity.

"This proposed legal recognition of euthanasia – the act of providing a painless and peaceful death – raised a number of fundamental problems of a religious, scientific and legal nature. The Catholic newspaper Germania hastened to observe: 'The Catholic faith binds the conscience of its followers not to accept this method.' ... In Lutheran circles, too, life is regarded as something that God alone can take. ... Euthanasia ... has become a widely discussed word in the Reich. ... No life still valuable to the State will be wantonly destroyed."

Nationalized health care and government involvement in medical care promised to improve the public's "quality of life." Unfortunately, the cost of maintaining government medical care was a contributing factor to the growth of the national debt, which reached astronomical proportions. Double and triple digit inflation crippled the economy, resulting in the public demanding that government cut expenses.

This precipitated the 1939 order to cut federal expenses. The national socialist government decided to remove "useless" expenses from the budget, which included the support and medical costs required to maintain the lives of the retarded, insane, senile, epileptic, psychiatric patients, handicapped, deaf, blind, the non-rehabilitatable ill and those who had been diseased or chronically ill for five years or more. It was labeled an "act of mercy" to "liberate them through death," as they were viewed as having an extremely low "quality of life," as well as being a tax burden on the public.

The public psyche was conditioned for this, as even school math problems compared distorted medical costs incurred by the taxpayer of caring for and rehabilitating the chronically sick with the cost of loans to newly married couples for new housing units.

The next whose lives were terminated by the state were the institutionalized elderly who had no relatives and no financial resources. These lonely, forsaken individuals were needed by no one and would be missed by no one. Their "quality of life" was considered low by everyone's standards, and they were a tremendous tax burden on the economically distressed state.

The next to be eliminated were the parasites on the state: the street people, bums, beggars, hopelessly poor, gypsies, prisoners, inmates and convicts. These were socially disturbing individuals incapable of providing for themselves whose "quality of life" was considered by the public as irreversibly below standard, in addition to the fact that they were a nuisance to society and a seed-bed for crime.

The liquidation grew to include those who had been unable to work, the socially unproductive and those living on welfare or government pensions. They drew financial support from the state, but contributed nothing financially back. They were looked upon as "useless eaters," leeches, stealing from those who worked hard to pay the taxes to support them. Their unproductive lives were a burden on the "quality of life" of those who had to pay the taxes.

The next to be eradicated were the ideologically unwanted, the political enemies of the state, religious extremists and those "disloyal" individuals considered to be holding the government back from producing a society which functions well and provides everyone a better "quality of life." The moving biography of the imprisoned Dietrich Bonhoffer chronicled the injustices. These individuals also were a source of "human experimental material," allowing military medical research to be carried on with human tissue, thus providing valuable information that promised to improve the nation's health.

Finally, justifying their actions on the purported theory of evolution, the Nazis considered the German, or "Aryan," race as "ubermenschen," supermen, being more advanced in the supposed progress of human evolution. This resulted in the twisted conclusion that all other races, and in particular the Jewish race, were less evolved and needed to be eliminated from the so-called "human gene pool," ensuring that future generations of humans would have a higher "quality of life."

Dr. Koop stated: "The first step is followed by the second step. You can say that if the first step is moral then whatever follows must be moral. The important thing, however, is this: Whether you diagnose the first step as being one worth taking or being one that is precarious rests entirely on what the second step is likely to be. ... I am concerned about this because when the first 273,000 German aged, infirm and retarded were killed in gas chambers there was no outcry from that medical profession either, and it was not far from there to Auschwitz."

Can this holocaust happen in America? Indeed, it has already begun. The idea of killing a person and calling it "death with dignity" is an oxymoron. The "mercy-killing" movement puts us on the same path as pre-Nazi Germany. The "quality of life" concept, which eventually results in the Hegelian utilitarian attitude of a person's worth being based on their contribution toward perpetuating big government, is in stark contrast to America's founding principles.

This philosophy which lowers the value of human life, shocked attendees at the Governor's Commission on Disability, in Concord, N.H., Oct. 5, 2001, as they heard the absurd comments of Princeton University professor Peter Singer.

The Associated Press reported Singer's comments: "I do think that it is sometimes appropriate to kill a human infant," he said, adding that he does not believe a newborn has a right to life until it reaches some minimum level of consciousness. "For me, the relevant question is, what makes it so seriously wrong to take a life?" Singer asked. "Those of you who are not vegetarians are responsible for taking a life every time you eat. Species is no more relevant than race in making these judgments."

Singer's views, if left unchecked, could easily lead to a repeat of the atrocities of Nazi Germany, if not something worse. Add to that unbridled advances in the technology of cloning, DNA tests that reveal physical defects, human embryos killed for the purpose of gathering stem cells to treat diseases ... and a haunting future unfolds before us. President Theodore Roosevelt's warning in 1909 seems appropriate:

"Progress has brought us both unbounded opportunities and unbridled difficulties. Thus, the measure of our civilization will not be that we have done much, but what we have done with that much. I believe that the next half century will determine if we will advance the cause of Christian civilization or revert to the horrors of brutal paganism. The thought of modern industry in the hands of Christian charity is a dream worth dreaming. The thought of industry in the hands of paganism is a nightmare beyond imagining. The choice between the two is upon us."

In his State of the Union address in 1905, Roosevelt stated:

"There are those who believe that a new modernity demands a new morality. What they fail to consider is the harsh reality that there is no such thing as a new morality. There is only one morality. All else is immorality. There is only true Christian ethics over against which stands the whole of paganism. If we are to fulfill our great destiny as a people, then we must return to the old morality, the sole morality. ... All these blatant sham reformers, in the name of a new morality, preach the old vice of self-indulgence which rotted out first the moral fiber and then even the external greatness of Greece and Rome."

In biblical comparison, Jesus showed mercy by healing the sick and giving sanity back to the deranged, but never did he kill them. This attitude is exemplified today by Mother Teresa of Calcutta, whose version of "death with dignity" was to gather the dying from off the street and show compassion to these rejected and abandoned members of the human race, all the while knowing that they may only survive for another half hour. Her "mercy-living" movement went to great trouble to house, wash and feed even the most hopeless and derelict, because of inherent respect for the "sanctity of life" of each individual.

This attitude is summed up in her statement: "I see Jesus in every human being. I say to myself, this is hungry Jesus, I must feed him. This is sick Jesus. This one has leprosy or gangrene; I must wash him and tend to him. I serve because I love Jesus."

Will America chose the "sanctity of life" concept as demonstrated by Mother Teresa, or will America chose the "quality of life" concept championed by self-proclaimed doctors of death – such as in the case of the court-ordered starvation of Terri Schiavo – and continue its slide toward Auschwitz? What kind of subtle anesthetic has been allowed to deaden our national conscience? What horrors await us? The question is not whether the suffering and dying person's life should be terminated; the question is what kind of nation will we become if they are. Their physical death is preceded only by our moral death.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

BS.

The British instituted the first modern day planned death camps in South Africa during the third Boer War. (1899-1902)

The British rounded up the Boer combatant connected old and infirm of both sexes, their women and children and put them all into concentration camps, there to literally and deliberately starve them in the squalid conditions to breed disease and kill them off, and they died by the thousands.

It was a last desperate act of the British to break the will of the hold out Boer guerrilla fighters the British could not defeat in open combat. And it worked, the Boer men and boys surrendered to save the lives of their old people, women and children.

[itsahoot]

- Then try writing a constitutional 'law' giving this power CONSISTENTLY to someone/some-group other than parents or legal guardians..

What possible good would come of it, judges get to tell us what you really meant?

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt

[Pedantic_Lady]

Personally, I think that if a person has left clear written instructions that have been notarized, there's nothing wrong with carrying out their wishes. If someone clearly would not wish to carry on in a persistent vegetative state, there is nothing wrong with obeying their wishes.

However, where clear written instructions are not present, it is merely one party's word against the other's. How can someone possibly make such a decision? I wouldn't want to have that kind of responsibility. In a situation like Terri Schiavo's...where her husband claims she said she would not want to be kept alive in such a state but can produce no proof...I would have to side with her parents and not remove the feeding tube. However, were he able to produce a document signed by Terri and notarized by a third party, I don't see a problem with it; after all, those would have been HER wishes.

[tpaine]

Apparently, you have 'given up' on restoring respect for our constitutional republic..

I haven't.

Our political system is broken, not our constitution.

[independentmind]

Have you seen my FR page?

I took a look at some of your links. I encourage everyone to do the same.

Have any of the articles on your home page been posted on FR?

[Eala]

>"collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in---your nation, your people--- is not the world you were born in at all."

A good description for many of us.

As it was for me in 1988 when I first read it (on Usenet). (And thus a new tagline is born...)

[Sir Gawain]

Already posted with 200+ comments (the title was changed)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003151/posts

[Eala]

"First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out --
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out --
because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out --
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me --
and there was no one left to speak out for me."
~~Pastor Martin Niemoller
(victim of the Nazis)


Is there anything we can learn from this?
When they came for the Catholics?
When they came for the Baptists?
When they came for the fundamentalists?
When they came for the agnostics?
When they came for the physically disabled?
When they came for the mentally disabled?

Just something for all of us to think about -- is this picture larger than we currently see it?

First they came for the bigots,
and I did not speak out -
because I was not a bigot.
Then they came for the misspoken,
and I did not speak out -
because I watched my speech.
Then they came for the fundamentalists,
and I did not speak out -
because I was not a fundamentalist.
...

Is this what you mean?

[virgil]

It is disturbing that the evils of the Nazi regime are being resurrected and embraced under new names, seemingly benign, even benevolent sounding terms. I laughed when I first heard the term "peace keepers" in the place of what should be called an occupying army. I don't understand why people want to embrace this stuff. Is it to prove to themselves that they are more powerful than God? That they have the ultimate will? Triumph of the will anyone? I hate German philosophers. Crackpots all.

[Ciexyz]

Prayer for Terri bump. Her suffering and the callousness of her husband, is most distressing.

[MarMema]

Have any of the articles on your home page been posted on FR?

Well, no because it's all old news, sad as that fact is to state.

I was mostly trying to put together a memorial to those who have been killed with dehydration/neglect. SO many of them already...and then probably hundreds more that never had their names on the internet at all...

[GailA]

btt

[Palladin]

If President George Bush does not in some way step in to stop this murder of Terri, I will no longer consider him 100% prolife.

What he does, or neglects to do, regarding Terri's survival will definitely impinge upon his re-electability among all true prolife conservatives.

[lakey]

It will be a week tomorrow that you and your church's congregation said prayers for someone ill in my family. In fact, we saw improvement not long after I wrote to you.

He's not over the "bumps," but is getting there. Praise God! And my thanks to you (plus a couple of other freepers), and your church members.

I only wish that the prayers all of us have offered for Terri and her family could have had the same effect for them.

[First Amendment]

Their physical death is preceded only by our moral death.

Great article.

Will we stand up? Will elected representatives stand up? Will the demonic judges be ousted?

[exDemMom]

The program to liquidate the disabled was given the innocuous euphemism "vernichtung lebens unwertenlebens" (fir-NISH-tung LAY-bunz un-VAIR-tin-lay-bunz), literally, 'obliterating life unworthy of life.'

When you get right down to it, there isn't a single one of us whose continued survival is indispensable to society. Yes, (in my somewhat narcissistic example) my head is filled with an education worth tens of thousands of dollars, mostly paid for by taxpayers. Yes, I was one of eight admitted into graduate school that year out of an applicant pool of over 600. Does that mean I'm special? No. Had I not been there, someone else would have been in that slot.

No one is irreplaceable if the criteria is their value to society. Far too many people hold that as the ultimate criteria, and that trend frightens me.

[pc93]

http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/helpterri

http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/helpterri/chat

PLEASE TAKE ACTIONS - HAVE PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH AND FLORIDA GOVERNOR JEB BUSH STOP THIS MADNESS. SAVE TERRI AN INNOCENT DISABLED WOMAN WHO HAS THE WILL TO LIVE FROM IMO CRIMINAL HUSBAND, JUDGE, AND COURTS. EXECUTIVE ORDERS CAN STOP THIS NOW. IN THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE BRAVE AND THE FIGHT AGAINST TERROR HOW CAN THEY ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN? PLEASE FIGHT FOR TERRI'S LIFE. SHE NEEDS YOU RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND.

Sunday, October 19, 2003 9:09 AM
Kangaroo courts and the Executive Power / Terri's will to live
10/18/03 -- Jeb's Emails to FR poster, summer, today, re: Terri. (And, a Message to Michael Shiavo)

Posted by pc93 to No More Gore Anymore
On News/Activism 10/19/2003 8:32 AM PDT #204 of 214

To: Lawdoc; dixiegrrl; supercat; Pegita

Rumours have been flying aroun the internet and people are getting things mixed up. This summary on one page seems to be the most accurate.

"Judge George Greer: Ruler of the Kangaroo Court set on killing Terri Schiavo. Impartial? Not in the least! Worked side by side as county commissioner with Barbara Sheen Todd (county commissioner) for eight YEARS. Barbara Sheen Todd is on the board of the hospice. Also, Judge Greer's fellow judge, Judge John Lenderman is the brother of Martha Lenderman (also on the hospice board! See the Hospice Board members! Greer accepted as the basis of his rulings, the questionable testimony of Michael Schiavo (and his family) that Terri would wish to be killed, yet Michael never stated that before he got about a Million Dollars to care for Terri forever. Greer also accepted as the basis of his rulings, the "opinion" of a third doctor who just happens to be the brother of a close associate of George Felos, right-to-kill attorney, and very significantly, former CHAIRMAN of the hospice board! If there ever was a rigged court, Judge Greer's is it!"



398 posted on 10/19/2003 4:41 AM PDT by TaxRelief

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The war for Terri Schiavo's life- some links

Posted by pc93 to IcelandicConservative
On News/Activism 10/19/2003 8:30 AM PDT #412 of 417

Ok. Sorry. Yes she is conscious but Jeb needs to do something straightaway as she has gone without food or water since Oct. 18 at 8AM.

Jeb has the duty to uphold the laws of Florida. He has been notified that a murder is taking place in his state on his watch, to a defensless diabled person. She is being starved and dehydrated against her will, upon the false testimony that she is brain dead and wants to die. She is not either.
Sunday, October 19, 2003 9:00 AM
JEB PLEASE SAVE TERRI NOW
http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler.asf

http://www.tomeaker.com/ts/terri-cable.mov

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download

TERRI HAS BEEN WITHOUT WATER AND NUTRITION SINCE
OCT. 15TH 8AM. PLEASE BESEECH JEB TO SAVE HER
AS HE IS THE ONLY ONE LEFT WHO HAS THE POWER
TO DO SO VIA EXECUTIVE ORDER.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tammy Nicholas"
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 3:34 AM
Subject: [helpterri] Fwd: IMPORTANT UPDATE ON TERRY

And Very Important Info


>
> --- TERRISHOPE@aol.com wrote:
> > From: TERRISHOPE@aol.com
> > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:26:35 EDT
> > Subject: IMPORTANT UPDATE ON TERRY And Very
> > Important Info
> > To: TERRISHOPE@aol.com
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> > I have to do this ... this way, I have (many of

you
> > know this) tried to email
> > you all one on one and I just can't keep up, I am
> > losing it here. So it's a
> > MASS mail now, PLEASE bear with me. Let me try

and
> > tell you all ... all I
> > know and some other things as well. First of all,
> > there are many rumors going
> > around and they are making me mad, but I have got

to
> > ignore them because I don't
> > have TIME to waste and you know what, neither do
> > you. So if you want to
> > listen to me and believe me that''s a good thing,
> > because you will only get FACTS
> > from me, no made up BS. This isn't a game. And

if
> > I am half dead here I can
> > just imagine how all of you are holding up. You

are
> > fighting none stop, many
> > of you are putting ALL of your time and efforts

into
> > this and you are
> > AMAZING!! God bless all of you!!
> >
> > Okay now, first off... Terri as of RIGHT NOW 2 AM
> > Florida time has been
> > without food, water and any meds (meds that I am
> > aware of) for 88 hours. Her tube
> > was removed HOURS AFTER her last feeding, remember
> > she was only being fed
> > twice a day. She is still responding and aware!!!
> > She is still fighting for her
> > blessed life! "She has a will to live people!!!"
> > We have got to be her
> > voice, we just have to, it is the RIGHT thing to

do,
> > we can't give up on her, this
> > has got to be a sign to us ... how much more can
> > anyone take, her, her parents
> > and us??? I don't know, you all tell me. It is
> > said God will NOT put more
> > on you then you can bare!!! Do you believe that??
> > I think Terri's family is
> > our LIVING PROOF!
> >
> > I have been asked MANY questions about many
> > different things, a lot I can
> > tell you, some I can't and some is just simply NOT
> > important, please trust me. I
> > am in contact with the family and also someone who
> > is closer to this daily!!
> > I will NOT let you be in the dark, you guys made

Jeb
> > Bush act!! He may not
> > have done anything more then PROMISE the family

that
> > he would stop this if at
> > all possible, but WE are making him KEEP his

promise
> > now!!! Trust me, your
> > voices were hear and they were loud! None of you
> > are allowed to get a sore
> > throat now... Keep BOMBARDING Jeb Bush and

everyone
> > I send you email address's
> > to... and keep the faith. Something will happen.
> >
> > For those of you who have asked... Terri is not
> > allowed flowers, teddy bears,
> > a comfortable, soft warm socks, she is allowed
> > NOTHING! She never as had
> > flowers, cards or stuffed animals to brighten her
> > days ... her loving husband
> > Michael will NOT allow it. She is not allowed a

wet
> > wash rag on her lips. They
> > will put Vaseline on mouth. That's it folks.
> > Please read my emails ... this
> > was stated in the past, however I realize many of
> > you have just recently
> > joined this team of Angel's and I do mean ANGELS

...
> > so to those of you who are
> > new...WELCOME, God BLESS YOU and I am sorry we

have
> > too meet like this, all of
> > us.
> >
> > But do you all realize that that sweet woman who
> > even now while she lays
> > dying is bring sooo many good people together.

She
> > is STILL spreading her love,
> > the same love she spread to everyone who knew her
> > before her night of hell.
> > Terri to my knowledge (someone heard this rumor

and
> > ask me) is NOT chained to
> > her bed. She may be restrained because she may

have
> > grand Mal seizers because
> > of the lack of fluid in her system, lets pray not.
> > Which is a reason they may
> > restrain her ... but No she is not chained to the
> > bed. God bless her. :(
> > This is killing many of us too... Precious ones I
> > KNOW how you feel, all of your
> > feeling are sooo real, it hurts!
> >
> > Tomorrow morning at 10 am anyone and everyone who
> > can get up to that hell
> > hole hospice house (God please forgive me as I

know
> > Hospice does do good for
> > many, it has also helped those I've loved and lost
> > in the past) it is just THAT
> > place that has me crazy!! But anyone who can

attend
> > the protest PLEASE, PLEASE
> > go, even if only for 30 minutes, but I assure you,
> > if you go up there or down,
> > whatever the case my be, you'll want to stay for a
> > while, you just will. But
> > then it will weaken you and the feelings of
> > overwhelming sadness will make
> > you want to come home again, but d not let that

stop
> > you, PLEASE!
> >
> > As this family is horrified, grief stricken and
> > slowly dying with their
> > daughter/sister, they will STILL welcome you with
> > open arms!!!!! I promise you
> > that, find them among the crowd or in the camper
> > that is parked right there
> > across the street and tell them who you are and

tell
> > them you are with Lisa and the
> > TERRISHOPE group, They will know exactly who you
> > are, just not your name.
> > Sometimes there are 5 supporters there, sometimes

20
> > sometime 50 and sometimes
> > as many as 200. It changes constantly, but the

more
> > that go, the better. And
> > yes, people stay through the night, all night we
> > did.
> >
> > There are people from all over the world there I
> > swear to you, all the way
> > from Germany! I have met wonderful people, from
> > Colorado, Ga. Nebraska,
> > Washington, Calif. ... all over!! I was sooo
> > touched and I know you will be too...
> > All walks of life, red, yellow, black and white,
> > Jesus had all in his site!! I
> > started everyone singing God bless America,

Amazing
> > Grace, Jesus us loves us,
> > we talked, we prayed, we cried, we paced, we

yelled
> > out Bush save Terri over
> > and over to the lying media! You guys just

weren't
> > lucky enough to hear us
> > because they cut a lot of it out! We yelled out
> > many things, you just take the
> > steps and get everyone to join in ... do not be
> > afraid, someone has to get
> > people there started, but keep it peaceful! And
> > when someone is being
> > interviewed try and stay quiet. You can talk to
> > others about your feelings we all did,
> > many are full of anger, many are silent and just
> > pray and that's okay too.
> >
> > Be advised ... be very ready for someone in the
> > media to interview you,
> > there's a good chance of that, be ready to speak

up,
> > be calm and be clear that
> > Terri is NOT in a coma, that she is not a

vegetable,
> > that she is being murdered
> > and you are there because you want it stopped! Be
> > ready folks! I was
> > interviewed 5 times!! There is media there local
> > and National from all over, although
> > it has really slowed way down, BUT it will pick

back
> > up now that Voters will
> > be shredding their voters registration cards
> > tomorrow and they also will have a
> > Sunday service for Terri. Also there are MANY
> > police officers there, more
> > now then before and honestly I found them all to

be
> > very nice, just do NOT step
> > on the grass that belongs to the hell hole!!! You
> > will be confronted!
> >
> > As for Jeb Bush, YES ... he can and it is his DUTY
> > to stop this, what he has
> > said is political bull caca! HE CAN SAVE HER ...

If
> > he doesn't, I'd hate to
> > be in his shoes. HE NEEDS TO DO THIS and do it
> > YESTERDAY!!!!!!!!!! Believe
> > me, this is TRUE, he CAN do it, it is in his

power!
> > STAY ON him and the others
> > whom I email you about and don't stop fighting

until
> > we no longer have any
> > reason to fight. Then we can deal with the rest

of
> > the evil ones ... they will
> > hang!!
> >
> > Okay, I hope for right now, just for tonight, I

have
> > answered some questions
> > for all of you. I really am trying and this is

all
> > effecting me too... I just
> > want t go into the closet and hide and cover my
> > ears. I can't bare to answer
> > my phone, it scares me, Jinks cell phone rings and
> > we hold our breath with
> > worry. So please believe me, I am really doing my
> > very best to keep you
> > informed at all times about everything, but I

can't
> > tell you things that don't know
> > and I have learned already not to repeat what I

hear
> > unless I hear it from the
> > family, because everyone has a different view on

how
> > they see AND hear things.
> >
> >
> > I am so tired dear ones ... just mentally and
> > emotionally drained and the
> > clock ticks on. It is now 3 AM :( and 89 hours

for
> > Our sister Terri ... without
> > food and water. :( Please keep praying hard for
> > her. Let Jeb Bush know
> > whenever you think about it, send him the hours.
> > Don't let him or his staff
> > forget through out the days. We will get through
> > this together. I will send
> > another update tomorrow and I will do this

everyday
> > if at all possible, more often
> > if I can ... THANK YOU ALL... Tammy you too honey,
> > God loves you ... your
> > doing a great job on our message board and once
> > again for anyone who wants to
> > join the message board that Tammy and I started

(she
> > did the work, I am too dumb
> > with that stuff and it couldn't have done it
> > witrhout her) email me and I can
> > have Tammy get you started.
> >
> > I hope all of you are in bed and resting. Boy, we
> > sure made quite a team
> > here didn't we? Somehow I am not at all

surprised.
> > I PROMISE TO KEEP YOU ALL
> > POSTED with all the news good or bad as soon as I
> > know, you'll know, no matter
> > what it is. May God's Angels keep you safe and
> > surround you with "Our Saviors
> > Love" always, Lisa Pray for Terri PS here is the
> > address for the hell hole
> > hospice hose in Clearwater...
> > Hospice Woodside is located at 6774 102nd Avenue
> > North in Pinellas Park and
> > is just west of 66th Street North.
> > A group of Republican demonstrators are planning

to
> > shred their voter
> > registration cards and officially change their

party
> > affiliations in order to call
> > attention to the Governorâ?Ts refusal to intervene
> > on behalf of Terri
> > Schindler-Schiavo.
> > IF YOU WANT TO BE REMOVED FROM THIS MAILING
> > GROUP...PLEASE EMAIL ME AND TELL
> > ME...I will remove you within 48 hours and I

promise
> > No uestions asked. Also
> > if you delete UPDATES or URGENT emails from me, I
> > will remove your name from
> > the list. God bless you one and all, Lisa
> >


REFS:

Refs:

supremecourt@flcourts.org

Substantive Contacts:

Craig Waters for the Supreme Court, (850) 414-7641,
watersc@flcourts.org Brenda Johnson, for the Office of

the State Courts Administrator, (850) 922-5081,

johnsonb@flcourts.org

Executive Office of Governor, Legal Team to Jeb (ask

to speak to the following individuals):

Robert H. Fernandez (Deputy General Counsel to

Governor) -> fernanr@eog.state.fl.us

Raquel A. Rodriguez (General Counsel to Governor) ->

raquel.rodriguez@myflorida.com

Christa Calamas (Assistant General Counsel to

Governor) -> calamac@eog.state.fl.us

850 / 488-3494 (voice)

850 / 488-9810 (fax)

Jeb Bush, Governor ->

jeb@myflorida.com,jeb.bush@myflorida.com

Voice: (850)488-4441

Voice: (850)488-7146

Fax: (850)487-0801

Executive Office of the Governor

400 S. Monroe Street

The Capitol

Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0001

Ask to speak to Lauren O'Conner

Attorney General Charlie Crist -> ag@oag.state.fl.us

Office of Attorney General Charlie Crist

State of Florida

The Capitol PL-01

Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050

Main office telephone numbers

Voice: (850)414-3990

Fax: (850)487-2564

Additional added note:

A criminal investigation needs to be conducted by John

Ashcroft. Please demand of President Bush to initiate

an investigation so that Mr. Ashcroft can get

involved:

President George W. Bush

c/o The White House

1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

N.W. Washington, D.C. 20500

Voice: (202)456-1111

Switchboard: (202)456-1414

Fax: 1 202 456 2883

TTY/TDD Comments: 202-456-6213

Visitors Office: 202-456-2121

Although you'll get an automated response, here are

the e-mails for GW and Cheney:

President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov

Vice President Richard Cheney:

vice.president@whitehouse.gov

Fax: 1 202 456 2710

United States Attorney General John Ashcroft:

(AskDOJ@usdoj.gov)

Fax:202/514-1009

NOTE: Free faxing for entire Washington D.C. area:

www.tpc.int/sendfax.html

Format of number to input is:
(ex. Pres. U.S. [POTUS]) -> 1 202 456 2461
(ex. Ashcroft) -> 1 202 514 1009
Vice Pres. Dick Cheney 1 202 456 2710

U.S. Senator John W Warner
1 202 224 6295

U.S. Senator Bob Graham
1 202 224 2237

House Representative Corrine Brown
1 202 225 2256

House Representative Henry Hyde
1 202 225 1166

etc.

U.S. Senate:

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/sena

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Saturday, October 18, 2003 5:29 PM
People needed at Hospice Woodside, and also in Wash. DC. at the Whitehouse at 3PM

[OXENinFLA]

http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/

How American corporate philanthropies launched a national campaign of ethnic cleansing in the United States, helped found and fund the Nazi eugenics of Hitler and Mengele — and then created the modern movement of "human genetics."

In the first three decades of the 20th Century, American corporate philanthropy combined with prestigious academic fraud to create the pseudoscience eugenics that institutionalized race politics as national policy. The goal: create a superior, white, Nordic race and obliterate the viability of everyone else.

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