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Terri Schiavo Vigil Report / Action
floriduh voter ^ | 10/16/03 | freeper reports

Posted on 10/17/2003 3:40:25 AM PDT by cyn

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MY NOTE: TERRI has been without water for longer than we knew -- 72 hrs. Gov. Bush -- Please act now and have faith! Our prayers continue to all involved in this, especially ‘behind the scenes’.

We are told to continue calls & emails -- please pass this on to mailing lists and friends.

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Jeb.Bush@MyFlorida.com
fl_governor@eog.state.fl.us
phone -- 850 - 488 - 4441
FAX -- 850 - 922 - 4292

FL atty Gen. Charlie Crist email -- ag@oag.state.fl.us
PHONE -- 850 - 487 - 1963
FAX -- 850 - 487 - 2564

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477 posted on 10/16/2003 6:55 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org) To 433
To: sfRummygirl; kimmie7; Ragtime Cowgirl; pc93; Ethan_Allen; JulieRNR21

Hi, friends. It's 9:50 p.m. Thursday night. The 24/7 Vigils since Tuesday have had at least several people for every hour since it began. I just came to report that much is going on behind the scenes and we have even more people at Hospice this evening. I hope everyone caught Hannity & Colmes. If not, please watch the replay later tonight if you can.

GOP and GWB Man has been here 24/7 and I've almost done the same. I met the lady from Not Dead Yet Organization and other folks who have flown in from other parts of the country to show support for Terri.

The message for tonight is KEEP CALLING GOVERNOR BUSH. That is the message I'm requesting until you hear otherwise from the front line at the Hospice Vigil. Oh, and keep praying. We are all sunburn and getting tired but we are standing with the Schindlers and they are feeling stronger because we are there for them around the clock.

Can't give any updates. If you've been watching tv or listening to the radio, you already realize that the media has woken up. THERE ARE SATELLITE TRUCKS, new people every day from all over the country, roses presented to us by a local florist, free food and beverages, the kindness of strangers is in abundance. I'll report back tomorrow. I'm going back to remain all night long. This is the biggest freep I've ever been to. The lawn in front of Hospice looks like your living rooms. We have moved in and are standing tall. God Bless America. God Bless Florida. FV

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To: summer

Summer, please tell everyone to have hope. We are attending the vigils everyday, even as Terri has missed three feedings. People should continue to call the Governor and their legislators which is in their phone books. Thank you so much, FV (back to the front lines).

P.S. There are also alternate freeps at the courthouse in Clearwater FL. People can get that address from phenn. Bye, back to Terri.

478 posted on 10/16/2003 6:58 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org) To 472

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(SNIP) ‘Mr. Schindler said he was not worried about his daughter's dying just yet. The feeding tube was removed once before, for 60 hours, he said, and she suffered no consequences.

"If it was 10 minutes to 2 on Sunday afternoon," Mr. Schindler said, "I'd be very, very concerned. She's good for the next three to four days." ‘

532 posted on 10/16/2003 10:22 PM PDT by summer To 530 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

To: All
484 posted on 10/16/2003 7:26 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...) To 478

floriduh's report that Terri has not had three feedings is cause for increased prayer ... that translates to 72 hours, 12 hours beyond the time the first tube was reinserted. Terri's Dad on Sean's radio program today was using 60 hours as a benchmark before the body begins to break down.

Heavenly Father, I pray that You will be the strength that Terri needs during these hours ... cause her to withstand physically the onslaught that has gripped her ... comfort her parents, for they have walked this way before, but are now beyond the original time ... they are into new territory ... keep them hopeful, even as we are hopeful ... may they be sustained by our continuing prayer on their behalf, and for their beloved daughter.

Send relief, I pray, dear Father ... bring this child back from the brink, for I pray in the name of Jesus, Amen ...

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401 posted on 10/16/2003 7:31 AM PDT by SwordofTruth --

Without human medical intervention – the feeding tube - God would allow her to die.

Without food you would die as well. Terri can swallow and *HAS* already ate some pudding. She does not need the feeding tube to live, she probably never did.

Her "husband" wants her dead so she can't tell the world he tried to kill her.

Without your parents feeding you when you were a baby, you would have also died without intervention from God almighty.

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To: All
549 posted on 10/16/2003 10:40 PM PDT by kenth 549

There is a difference between guardianship and ownership. A person who is under guardianship still enjoys basic rights that are to be protected either by the state or the nation. In this case, the overriding law is a very basic one. It is the basic right to life, unable to be broken even because of physical disability.

The courts are completely disregarding Terri's basic protected right to life as stated unequivocally in the Florida Constitution, and are bestowing ownership to her husband. To be a guardian is to protect your charge, not be hell-bent on killing them. Ownership on the other hand denotes property that one can do with as they please.

Sorry folks, I'm not addressing any person in particular here. It's just late and we've been appalled at this injustice to one who is defenseless. There are rights and wrongs, and this is wrong.

The courts have decided, on hearsay of one side, that this woman is disabled and therefore may be put to death. This is not even the supreme court, and the hearsay is tainted by interests other than those of the victim. One irregularity would be distressing, two, a cause for alarm, but the sheer number of factors actively working against Terri is unfathomable; from judges, lawyers and media with right-to-die agendas to husbands with financial, adulterous and criminal interests, to ignorance of the masses...

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Jeb Bush email -- Jeb.Bush@MyFlorida.com
fl_governor@eog.state.fl.us
phone -- 850 - 488 - 4441
FAX -- 850 - 922 - 4292

FL atty Gen. CHarlie Crist email -- ag@oag.state.fl.us
PHONE -- 850 - 487 - 1963
FAX -- 850 - 487 - 2564

IF YOU ARE CONVINCED AS I AM THAT THIS IS ABUSE -- THEN call the FL abuse hotline (info to follow)


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; euthenasia; prolife; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: diamond6
I mean "there".
161 posted on 10/17/2003 7:00:28 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jeff Head
I know, if placed in the same circumstances with one of my daughters in her twenties (and I have three), that I would have been down there to physcially remove her from that torture chamber earlier this week.

You know, I have to wonder why this wasn't done years and years ago. I'd like to think that if my little sister were in this situation, by the end of the first year, seeing the husband was deliberately withholding medical and therapeutic care, my family would have done something legal or otherwise to get her out of there. Now that it's down to her starving to death in a matter of days, I am rather amazed that they haven't gone in there, armed, and TAKEN her away.

162 posted on 10/17/2003 7:07:26 PM PDT by wizardoz (Palestinians are just dynamite!)
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To: MarMema
There is no better place...it only gets worse.

In my career I have traveled all over the world. This is where we have to make the stand...just as our forefathers did.

...and we will receive the same support of Providence that they did if we are willing.

We saw that in action in Klamath

163 posted on 10/17/2003 7:09:38 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: cyn
Freepmail me at your convenience. I had to come home early tonight to re-energize.
164 posted on 10/17/2003 7:09:57 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Theodore R.
JUDGE GREER IS A DEMOCRAT. JUDGE LAZZARA IS A DEMOCRAT. THE 2ND DCA IS FULL OF DEMOCRATS. THE LEON COUNTY JUDGE WAS PROBABLY A DEMOCRAT. THE FLA SUPREMES HAVE LOTS OF DEMOCRATS.

And you are just bashing Republicans because?

165 posted on 10/17/2003 7:13:40 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Jeff Head
This is where we have to make the stand

I am first and foremost a parent. My children are leaving this country,and my husband and I are taking them.

The best stand I can make is to move to a place where my disabled children can live in peace and safely from the prevailing culture and judicial monarchy.

We will pray for all of you from our new home, and it is going to be awhile. We're roughly planning on about 4 years till we make the move.

166 posted on 10/17/2003 7:13:56 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Good luck and God bless you in your effort.

My point is that based on my own travels abroad, there is no safer place.

Move to a very conservative western state and live in a small rural town with a lot of Christian churches...that would be my advise for the best place.

Again...God's best to you.

167 posted on 10/17/2003 7:19:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: NebraskaTrailrider
If Jeb Bush can find a way to do an Executive Order, IT MUST BE IRONCLAD so that hubby's attorney doesn't do anything drastic (covertly to Terri) or immediately file some kind of appeal with the U.S. Supreme Court who have already turned this down once.

If the Florida Supremes decide against Terri tonight around midnight, then hopefully, Terri's attorneys will go to plan "next".

However, this turns out, someone should do a Thank You Thread for everyone who helped Terri on the internet or in person.

168 posted on 10/17/2003 7:20:10 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (conservative-spirit.org)
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To: EggsAckley
BUMP
169 posted on 10/17/2003 7:21:49 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant (No I am not over it!!!)
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To: diamond6
One of the letters may have been dismissed by Jeb but I'd find it highly unlikely that it was the Thomas Moore opinion. I can't say anything else about it.
170 posted on 10/17/2003 7:23:08 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (conservative-spirit.org)
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To: don-o
MarMema has a list of people who were likely put to death for not being able to speak for themselves.

I used the word unenforceable deliberately. I can't believe that a law that enables anyone to starve someone else to death simply for being imperfect, without the victim's express, written consent, exists and is enforced by the courts. It utterly boggles my mind.

Prayers for Terri's family, for Terri, and for the misguided people putting her to death.

171 posted on 10/17/2003 7:29:25 PM PDT by SeattleTiger
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To: Don Joe
Let me clear something up. Jeb Bush has his own legal team. What the Thomas Moore group did was submit their legal opinion to the Governor with other Memoranda yesterday on behalf of Terri. They WERE NOT HIS LEGAL TEAM. TM Group is from Michigan. Jeb's legal eagles are in Florida.

Further, Hubby Michael Schiavo's attorney dared Jeb Bush to go see Terri for himself. That was in today's St. Pete Times. Hubby is in hiding now.

The mother of his live-in girlfriend is hubby's rep in Terri's room and there are nine body guards outside her room. Hubby's rep is even reluctant to give Terri A PILLOW. If that doesn't make everyone want to come here and join the Vigil and talk to the media, I don't know what would move someone.

You know the expression "you had to be there"? Well, that is the only way to explain what is happening at Hospice of the Suncoast Pinellas.

172 posted on 10/17/2003 7:33:01 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (conservative-spirit.org)
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To: SeattleTiger
Prayers for Terri's family, for Terri, and for the misguided people putting her to death.

There is a difference between people who are misguided and people who have chosen to be evil. Of course, most people who have chosen to be evil do not think they are evil. But they are.

173 posted on 10/17/2003 7:41:38 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: spectre
"See? How can the Doctor's have proclaimed your dad "brain dead" and yet he talked? Amazing. Thank God they were wrong..."

My father was a stubborn man. The doctors were aggravating him, so he wasn't talking to them.

He probably had some brain damage with all his problems, but he was talking to us. And he made clear who he didn't want to have in the hospital room.

We moved him to another hospital because of the poor treatment he was receiving. He died but at least the second hospital tried to treat him properly and keep him from suffering.
174 posted on 10/17/2003 7:43:22 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: cyn
Terri prayer bump. Dear Lord, please give wisdom to Governor Jeb Bush in this matter. Soften his heart. Holy Spirit, speak to his spirit as he prays about this matter, for we're hoping that he prays and seeks the Lord's guidance. Please keep Terri safe in the palm of your hands, dear God. We ask in Jesus' name, amen.
175 posted on 10/17/2003 7:47:11 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: FR_addict
My father was a stubborn man. The doctors were aggravating him, so he wasn't talking to them.

Likewise, it could be that Terri, after all she has been through, does not allow her brain to register Michael's presence. Or his stupid doctors. She didn't even like one of those nurses who first took care of her, but after awhile, she understood that the nurse was not against her, and then she started responding to her. I don't remember which one, but it was one of the ones who filed an affidavit around Labor Day. Terri's not stupid, and she's in there. It breaks my heart that the court allows this to happen to anyone.

176 posted on 10/17/2003 7:52:09 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: MarMema
Thanks for posting the encouragement to us, MarMema.
177 posted on 10/17/2003 7:53:58 PM PDT by syriacus (Judge Greer---YOU should have looked into Terri's eyes and asked her if she wanted life.)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Whatever you read at Yahoo, doesn't sound like it's an accurate accounting of today's events. Please go to Bay News 9 instead of reading posts at Yahoo. I was there today and you are repeating stuff that isn't quite accurate.
178 posted on 10/17/2003 7:55:18 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (conservative-spirit.org)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
Hubby is in hiding now.

This is amazingly easy to visualize.

179 posted on 10/17/2003 7:55:49 PM PDT by syriacus (Judge Greer---YOU should have looked into Terri's eyes and asked her if she wanted life.)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
Hey, freep, have you heard of our new poster that goes by the name of "Atomic Blonde". He/she made some pretty interesting posts this AM. Do a search for them and see what you think. Keep in touch!
180 posted on 10/17/2003 7:59:44 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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