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Terri Schiavo Vigil Report / Action
floriduh voter ^ | 10/16/03 | freeper reports

Posted on 10/17/2003 3:40:25 AM PDT by cyn

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To: walford
Thanks for all your work, but it seems not to impress Jeb Bush, the only person who can do anything to stop a murder and seemingly is hesitant to do so. No matter how much evidence is put forward by so many diligent posters here, Jeb says it is insufficient for him to intervene. He keeps talking about "our courts." Not too long ago he even said there was "no evidence" that Schiavo had abused his role as guardian, despite all the testimony to the contrary. Jeb in his brief called Terri a "PVS" case, incorrect of course.

When Schiavo verbally attacked Jeb in September, the governor said nothing. Similarly, when George W. Greer ridiculed him, he said nothing.

Now he says his lawyers cannot determine whether he can intervene.

Is he "Hamlet"? Or is the line from "Macbeth" more appropriate: "Macbeth, doth murder sleep?"

I don't see how he can look at his handsome face in the mirror if he lets Terri die?
101 posted on 10/17/2003 12:30:39 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: walford
My first post - bear with me :)

re: Michael Schiavo's Mercedes....

My thoughts are that Michael (and Felos) already have a lucrative "Right to Die" book contract and if he does have a new Mercedes, its the result of his first advance.
102 posted on 10/17/2003 12:39:15 PM PDT by ironmaidenPR2717
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To: deannadurbin
Well it seems to me that George W. Greer must be popular in the Tampa Bay area, or Jeb would not be so hesitant to take action. He can intervene on the grounds of fraud in the court decision. He can sort out the niceities later. George W. Greer was elected on the same day that Jeb was. And George W. Bush lost Pinellas Co., whereas Greer won the plebiscite two years earlier. So he is at least as popular as George W. Bush there.

People in FL seem to vote routinely for liberal judges, probably based on name recognition, rather than knowledge of the candidate's judicial philosophy.
103 posted on 10/17/2003 12:43:11 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: All
Okay, I may have missed this, but how did they skip so many feedings? Is that not in direct violation of the order, which allowed the tube removed? I just wish I could meet this son of a bitch on a steet corner on a cold dark night with no witnesses.
104 posted on 10/17/2003 12:50:17 PM PDT by sc2_ct
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To: sc2_ct
FEDERAL LAW ON HOSPICE:
http://www.hospicepatients.org/law.html



(j) Standard: Meal service, menu planning, and supervision. The
hospice must--
**(1) Serve at least three meals or their equivalent each day at
regular times, with not more than 14 hours between a substantial evening
meal and breakfast;
(2) Procure, store, prepare, distribute, and serve all food under
sanitary conditions;
(3) Have a staff member trained or experienced in food management or
nutrition who is responsible for--
(i) Planning menus that meet the nutritional needs of each patient,
following the orders of the patient's physician and, to the extent
medically possible, the recommended dietary allowances of the Food and
Nutrition Board of the National Research Council, National Academy of
Sciences (Recommended Dietary Allowances (9th ed., 1981) is available
from the Printing and Publications Office, National Academy of Sciences,
Washington, DC 20418); and

[[Page 703]]

105 posted on 10/17/2003 12:57:10 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: All
How can they not even give her swallowing tests. She swallows her own saliva with no problem- if this was not the case I'd think they'd have to get her on some kind of suction.
106 posted on 10/17/2003 1:00:11 PM PDT by Ferret Fawcet ("A wise man's heart inclines him toward the Right, but a fool's heart...to the Left" ~Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Theodore R.
Is this from the latest press conference. I read somplace there was going ot be a press conference. That was hours ago though.
107 posted on 10/17/2003 1:06:51 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: Ferret Fawcet
That's another thing I want to know, as well. They said that the fact that she does not drool is proof that she is able to swallow. A FReeper was on a few nights ago, and they finally brought his father around by putting a drop of ice cream on his tongue. Apparently his father always loved ice cream! It worked! It is obvious except to most thinking people who do not have their vision and minds clouded by 'our courts' and the 'rule of law', that Terri is NOT PVS, would probably love to have a bite to eat and a glass of water to drink. The plan for Terri is also clear: she must die to serve Machiavelian agendas. May fire come down from heaven.....

EVIDENCE OF ABUSE OF TERRI - HOSPICE AND HUSBAND CONSPIRE TO KILL TERRI

http://www.hospicepatients.org/hosp-conspires-to-kill-terri---father-s-plea-for-treatment-3-18-03-ltr.html
108 posted on 10/17/2003 1:13:20 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: Pegita
Pegita, praying your prayer at #91. It sounds Divinely inspired.
109 posted on 10/17/2003 1:26:10 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: Ethan_Allen
+ To God be the Glory ...
110 posted on 10/17/2003 1:40:25 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Orlando
Is there no hope then?
111 posted on 10/17/2003 1:42:16 PM PDT by trustandobey
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To: cyn
I just spoke with an aid to Gov. Bush, neither he or his secretary where in. However, the aid said she would pass along a brief messsage.

I told her to please tell the governor that by not interfering it is too much like the old Soviet Union, not America.

112 posted on 10/17/2003 1:57:46 PM PDT by Budge (God Bless FReepers!)
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To: Ethan_Allen
My Dad..thank you for remembering.

Just a bit of ice-cream, the size of a pea, so he wouldn't asperiate, and it worked! They gave up on him. We didn't.

sw (spectre's wife)

113 posted on 10/17/2003 2:19:32 PM PDT by spectre (SW (Pray for TERRI)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
I still have not seen news of the press conference. I did see this sad article, which makes me think all parties who might call a conference are engaged in the legal fight:

Florida governor can't intervene in case of woman in coma-like state

Parayers and good thoughts for Terri and her parents continue here in the northwest.

114 posted on 10/17/2003 2:22:22 PM PDT by SeattleTiger
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To: SeattleTiger
I guess it is better to be in a battle than have a flat no.
115 posted on 10/17/2003 2:23:28 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: spectre
Bless you. Pardon my bad memory, for not remembering who. I've heard so many touching stories here the past few weeks. I have never felt so connected to FReepers. I have heard so many tales of hardship such as one FReeper who says she is dying of cancer. I wanted to go back and respond, but I lost the thread. I will go back and save all the Terri threads, and hopefully be able to touch base with some who fell through the cracks for me. I want you all to know, though, that I love you all, am praying for all of us, and I keep praying that God is working a mighty miracle. We will see. Keep up the faith, and keep praying. Whenever two or more.....
116 posted on 10/17/2003 2:31:04 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: Pegita
"+ To God be the Glory....."

"Sustain her~protect her~hold her safe until her hour of deliverance"

Neh 9:21Yea, forty years didst thou sustain them in the wilderness, [so that] they lacked nothing; their clothes waxed not old, and their feet swelled not. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Neh/9/21.html


Exd 9:17 As yet exaltest thou thyself against my people, that thou wilt not let them go?
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Exd/9/17.html


Eze 31:18 To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts of the earth: thou shalt lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with [them that be] slain by the sword. This [is] Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze031.html#18



117 posted on 10/17/2003 2:31:48 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Terri's parents are warriors, no doubt about it. It is completely bizarre to me that one judge, one attorney, and one husband can combine to put an innocent to death -- while those who have some possibility of intervening stand passively by.

I understand the importance of the rule of law. I do not understand why bureaucrats sit and watch when something as wrong as this continues. Terri does not have to die for somene to recognize that classifying food and water as artificial life support is a bad policy and that the law has overreached and become what should be unenforceable.

Selective interpretation of artificial life support + selective interpretation of PVS + not only disconnecting the tube, but REFUSING to allow anyone to try to feed her or provide her with water = Innocent blood on the hands of those who made or let this happen.

Still hoping for a miracle.

118 posted on 10/17/2003 2:48:57 PM PDT by SeattleTiger
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To: Budge
I just spoke with an aid to Gov. Bush, neither he or his secretary where in. However, the aid said she would pass along a brief messsage.

Gone for the weekend? Get back to you on Monday after he checks his messages?

119 posted on 10/17/2003 2:57:11 PM PDT by isrul
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Is it possible that there could be a conflict between what the outside legal team thinks is permissible, and what Jeb's own counsel believes is permissible?

And what the state attorney general says is permissible.

120 posted on 10/17/2003 2:59:27 PM PDT by Dave S
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