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Futile Care: The Terri Schiavo Case
Newsmax/AP ^ | Friday, Oct. 17, 2003 | Diane Alden

Posted on 10/16/2003 10:38:41 PM PDT by nickcarraway

This is not the column I was going to write. However, it the column I must write.

A young woman named Terri Schiavo [www.terrisfight.org] is on a deathwatch through court-ordered starvation and dehydration. Her death comes courtesy of the efforts of her husband, Michael Schiavo; right-to-die activists like lawyer George Felos and Dr. Ronald Cranford; judges George Greer and Richard Lazzara; and the Florida Supreme Court and the U.S. Supreme Court, which have refused to hear the case.

Terri's parents want her to live, and after viewing the videos and talking to people, so do I. Up-to-date information is at www.terrisfight.org.

On the other hand, you can look up the Hemlock Society Web site [www.hemlock.org] to find fun ways to die or have someone else help you die. You can go to most university bioethics department Web sites or read learned papers written by bioethicists with Ph.D. or M.D. degrees. You will find how our society has progressed from finding humane ways for the "right to die" to good intellectual excuses for terminating others.

The various "right to die" organizations apparently are setting us up to accept the notion that it is our responsibility to end our agony at some point – particularly if we become a burden to the system, depressed, old or inconvenient. This particular right will be given to us by a doctor, nurse, medical institution, judge or relative who makes it their mission in life to dispose of us for a host of "humane" reasons.

The list of "quality of life" standards is growing. It is a list consisting of elements on the slippery slope from being humane to being rid of the unwanted. It has evolved from simply withholding heroic efforts to save a brain-dead or terminal human to a laundry list of whether or not we are costly to maintain, unproductive, dependent, burdensome, poor or depressed. To find out more: www.hospicepatients.org/euth-center.html

Death in Legal Doses

Termination by starvation and dehydration has been used many times before. Reports on elder abuse and news accounts from around the U.S. reveal that it is one of the most notorious ways to kill feeble elderly. It has also been used on disabled and brain-damaged younger people and babies.

It was also used in Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, Treblinka and the Soviet gulags. Stalin used starvation as a means of control. Nazi doctors experimenting on unwilling "patients" adopted all kinds of cruel techniques. One of those techniques was starvation and dehydration. It is recorded in the records of the Nuremberg Trials.

More recently, there were the deaths of other millions in the laogai, the Chinese gulag system. In North Korea reports of mass starvation have been rampant and it is used as a tool, a utilitarian political and demographic tool. The operative word here is utilitarian.

In one of the most notorious cases in the U.S. during the '90s, the death by starvation and dehydration was even recorded by "Frontline," a PBS effort to show how peaceful such a death could be. Of course it helped that the woman to be terminated had been shot full of opiates.

Nancy Cruzan's parents challenged the hospital to allow their daughter to be terminated through starvation and dehydration. Nancy, brain injured in a car accident, was breathing on her own and taking food by mouth. According to court records, she could hear, see, smiled at amusing stories, cried at times when visitors left, sometimes seemed to try to form words, and experienced pain from menstrual cramps.

Also, according to court records, Nancy required no type of skilled nursing, no care except food and fluids, personal hygiene and repositioning to avoid bedsores. The records also state that she could have been cared for in a home setting.

What is worse, it was the latest "cause" for the other Dr. Death, Dr. Ronald Cranford, University of Minnesota Bioethics Department. Cranford has been the principal voice calling for the starvation/dehydration deaths of Paul Brophy, Nancy Ellen Jobes, Nancy Cruzan and Christine Busalacchi, and now Terri Schiavo. All of the euthanized/terminated were brain-damaged but not dying.

He testified that he would even consider spoon-feeding for Nancy Cruzan to be "medical treatment" because that "would be totally inconsistent with what was wanted" (her death). (Cruzan v. Harmon [Missouri], Trial Testimony, 3/3/88, Transcript Vol. 1, pp. 228-229)

Cranford wrote in a CFD newsletter (Summer 1988), "I also believe that there may be extreme situations, and in the future increasingly common situations, where physician-assisted suicide may not only be permissible, but encouraged."

He wasn't the only one in the "progressive" community to support such efforts. I am ashamed a "Catholic" priest got involved. It was through the efforts of Fr. Kevin O'Rourke, O.P., whose pro-euthanasia stand was reaffirmed in his Supreme Court brief supporting the starvation of Nancy Cruzan.

There are many "Catholic" bioethcists who have forgotten that Pope John Paul II wrote in 1998, "the omission of nutrition and hydration intended to cause a patient's death must be rejected."

Consider Sgt. Arnold Shumosic, a 23-year-old Catholic, whose parents sought to starve him to death at the Ellsmere, Del., Veterans Administration hospital in 1988. The V.A. was only too willing to sacrifice Arnold's life on the altar of "quality," but, as Sen. Jesse Helms wrote President Ronald Reagan: "For a soldier to die for his country on the field of battle is an honor. For his country to murder him in his hospital bed is a disgrace." [pw1.netcom.com/~cureltd/death.htm]

Behind this devaluation of human life is the philosophy of utilitarianism and materialism. That philosophy is the heart of both Nazism and Communism: The value of an individual is measured by his or her usefulness to the group.

Legalizing Murder

In the Netherlands, where euthanasia has become routine, it accounts for almost 10 percent of all deaths there; more than half of those people did not ask to be killed. Not only do physicians perform assisted suicide on terminally ill patients, but they also kill newborn infants and hospitalized seniors whose quality of life is judged to be too poor.

There is increasing concern about involuntary euthanasia among Dutch citizens with disabilities. Many of them are joining the Dutch Patients’ Association, which issues a wallet-sized card stating that it is “intended to prevent involuntary euthanasia in case of admission of the signer to the hospital.” [www.pregnantpause.org/euth/compass.htm]

If the United States were to practice active euthanasia to the extent practiced in the Netherlands, taking into account the population differences, there would be approximately 200,000 euthanasia deaths annually in the United States, with approximately 100,000 deaths caused without the consent of the patient.

Some institutions have cautiously, quietly joined the call for euthanasia. Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Michigan Foundation paid for a survey promoting physician-assisted suicide by giving a grant to suicide rights activist Dr. Howard Brody. Respondents were appealed to by being presented with what might be described as idyllic circumstances: availability limited to the unquestionably terminally ill, a procedure managed in a comfortable therapeutic environment and the patient dispatched without any pain. [www.lifeadvocate.org/11_97/feature.htm]

In the current case of Terri Schiavo, Ron Panzer of Hospice Patients Alliance remarks: "Terri Schiavo's case is an in-your-face effort by the right-to-die (kill) activists to openly ram the duty to die down the throat of society. It is a precedent-setting case, make no mistake about that! There will be many articles about this case. Skim them, read them, but if you care about hospice and end-of-life care, you cannot think realistically that this case will not impact the future of hospice everywhere. It will. Some hospice administrators may be motivated to make a stand against such killings of the disabled. Others will hop right in and join the duty-to-die crowd, using hospice to eliminate the vulnerable, while enriching the hospices and other health care corporations, agencies and insurers. Watch and see! This issue is not going away, and we will remember who did NOT intervene to save Terri." [www.hospicepatients.org] or call [616] 866-9127.

The Grisly Details

The Hemlock Society description of death by starvation and dehydration:

The length of time it took for patients to die in these studies varies considerably depending on the fragility and weight of the patient, the state of his/her heart, etc., from several days to several weeks. Most of the reports of dying patients are within one or two weeks from dehydration.

*After the first day a state called detonemia develops in which there are apparently severe hunger pangs (unless feeding is restored).

*Not taking fluids appears to actually reduce a person's discomfort, bloating, nausea, lung secretions, urinary frequency and pain, and is a good idea at the end of life in any case.

*This method may be difficult for family members – and some medical personnel – who may find it difficult not to provide food and fluids. A family may need help caring for the dying person.

*Excellent oral hygiene must be maintained with ice chips to moisten the mouth, careful cleaning of the mouth, and lubricants. Skin becomes dry and inelastic so a soft mattress is helpful. Dizziness and weakness also occur.

Another description of this particular American way of dying is described by Justice Lynch of the Massachusetts Supreme Court in the case of firefighter Paul Brophy, who lapsed into coma after surgery. Removal of his G-tube led to his death eight days later, thanks in no small part to the efforts of (bioethicist) death squad professional Dr. Ronald Cranford.

In his dissent from the court majority approval of Brophy's death in this manner, Justice Lynch states: "the [likely] various effects from the lack of hydration and nutrition" as follows:

"Brophy's mouth would dry out and become caked or coated with thick material. His lips would become parched and cracked. His tongue would swell, and might crack. His eyes would recede back into their orbits and his cheeks would become hollow. The lining of his nose might crack and cause his nose to bleed. His skin would hang loose on his body and become dry and scaly. His urine would become highly concentrated, leading to burning of the bladder. The lining of his stomach would dry out and he would experience dry heaves and vomiting. His body temperature would become very high. His brain cells would dry out, and the thick secretions that would result could plug his lungs and cause death. At some point within five days to three weeks his major organs, including his lungs, heart, and brain, would give out and he would die." (Brophy v. New England Sinai Hospital, No. 85E0009-G1,10/21/85:28-2]

When he began having seizures, anticonvulsant medication was administered via the tube, as were antacids to prevent hemorrhaging and laxatives to make him more "comfortable" as he died.

The inconvenient facts are that food and water are NOT medical treatment. They are not therapeutic nor do they treat diseases. They are a necessity for life. In Terri Schiavo's case, as in all others with the exception of those who can't hold food down, it is nothing less than legalized murder. It is a cruel and inhumane way to die enshrined by our legal, medical and "ethical" community.

Who Will Speak for the Voiceless?

As I am mired in documents and testimony related to my book, it is ironic that research has me burrowing through collections on the Nuremberg Trials recently made public. Located at Yale, Harvard and the Truman Library, for the most part these records may be accessed online.

So much information to plow through – however, the theme remains the same: A civilized society or country can catapult down that slippery slope toward inhumane decadence faster than a drunken teenager in a Ferrari on Saturday night.

Don't anyone write to me and say it can't happen here. Don't tell me about having to remove Uncle Sid from life support and what a difficult decision it was. I have been in that position, at the end of my mother's life. That is not what Terri Schiavo's case is about.

Death for those who are not terminal happens every day.

It is simply called something else: futile care, death with dignity, partial-birth abortion, rule of law, "choice," or elder abuse. It happens as the legal, intellectual and financial system finds reasons to continue to expand the death culture. Meanwhile, the establishment elite and dumbed-down, secularized, decadent culture looks the other way.

I am here to tell you we are in a very similar position to that of Germany during the Weimar Republic prior to the rise of Hitler and the Third Reich. Problem is that left, right and libertarian, government, business, education, churches and associations, foundations and universities are greasing the slope toward that statist tyranny.

Contemplating those Nuremberg documents has convinced me that the bioethics departments in most universities are akin to the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in the Weimar Republic and the Third Reich. The doctors and "scientists" at the Institute gave scientific legitimacy to one of the most grisly, evil barbaric rampages in the history of mankind.

That rampage is happening in America without the Gestapo and SS. We have the courts and our institutions willing to couch the horror in legalism and euphemisms.

Addressing issues of life and death in America, Supreme Court Justice Scalia said, "A Christian should not support a government that suppresses the faith or one that sanctions the taking of an innocent human life."

The archbishop of Denver in a pastoral letter remarked: "The direction of the modern state is against the dignity of human life. These decisions harbinger a dramatic intensifying of the conflict between the Catholic Church and governing civil authorities."

PETA Would Be Proud

During the Nuremberg Trials, Gen. Telford Taylor took over the prosecution when Chief Justice Robert Jackson returned to the U.S. to resume his duties on the Supreme Court. Taylor's statement haunted me because in the U.S., as in Nazi Germany, animal rights have become more important than human rights to many.

I will bet there are more legal, legislative and NGOs working to expand territory for grizzly bears or enforcing the Endangered Species Act, than there are attempting to prevent our descent into hell on matters of life and death for human beings.

General Taylor:

"The Nazis themselves passed [a law] on the 24th of November 1933 for the protection of animals. This law states explicitly "that it is designed to prevent cruelty and indifference of man towards animals and to awaken and develop sympathy and understanding for animals as one of the highest moral values of a people. The soul of the German people should abhor the principle of mere utility without consideration of the moral aspects.

The law states further "that all operations or treatments which are associated with pain or injury, especially experiments involving the use of cold, heat, or infection, are prohibited, and can be permitted only under special exceptional circumstances."

If the principles announced in this law had been followed for human beings as well, this indictment would never have been filed. It is perhaps the deepest shame of the defendants that it probably never even occurred to them that human beings should be treated with at least equal humanity.

Their failure was the inevitable outcome of that sinister undercurrent of German philosophy which preaches the supreme importance of the state and the complete subordination of the individual. A nation in which the individual means nothing will find few leaders courageous and able enough to serve its best interests."

[Trials of War Criminals before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals under Control Council Law No. 10. Nuremberg, October 1946–April 1949. Washington, D.C.: U.S. G.P.O, 1949–1953.]

That road to hell is being prepared by the U.S. film, literati and TV culture as well, using the same kinds of propaganda on life-and-death issues that were being foisted on the German public by the cultural elites of the Third Reich. In the Nazi film "Ich Klage an" ("I Accuse"), produced in 1941, the message of the two-hour-long film is that doctors who submit to an incurable patient’s death wish act legally and morally.

Hanna, a beautiful ,dying woman approaches her husband, Thomas, and says: "You must help me. I want to remain your Hanna till the very end; I don’t want to become somebody else who is deaf, blind and idiotic. I wouldn’t endure that. Thomas, if you really love me, promise that you will deliver me from this beforehand."

Thomas "helps" Hanna with a drug overdose: "Yes, I confess: I did kill my incurably ill wife, but it was at her request." In the Nazi film, it was not worthless life being exterminated but a plea for death in a humane way.

The logic of that Nazi propaganda film is exactly what we hear today in movies and TV. They are the harbingers of those who are anxious and willing to make life cheap. This appetite to snuff the unproductive, the disabled, the less than perfect, the inconvenient, the clinically depressed will gather steam as it has in the Netherlands and in the United States in states like Oregon, as the society ages.

Thus, in a few short years, we have gone from a nation believing it is a kindness to dispense with heroic efforts to keep someone alive, to a country that intervenes directly when someone's "quality of life" doesn't live up to certain standards. The various instruments and agents of death surround it in euphemisms like "futile care" theory.

Futile care theory controls many major health-care institutions, insurance companies, nursing homes, and even that paragon called hospice care.

Futile care theory will take on the same import as other perversions of the law in the United States and Europe. As the Boomers age, the fervor to send us to our Maker will grow. It will be gauged by how much we are costing the system, or whether or not our relatives want us out of the way, or if some committee of the anointed, doctors or HMOs, concludes we are a burden and don't fit the standard they set for "quality of life."

I guarantee the day is coming when Boomers will be coerced to end their lives or someone else will make the decision for them. Some tribes of American Indians used to send the old and feeble into 40-below weather. It was a kinder death than what the cultural, legal and medical elites have devised for us.

Evolution of Death

J.A. Emerson Vermaat studied law at Leyden University. He is a senior television reporter in Hilversum, the Netherlands, and specializes in international affairs and European history. He is the author of a book about international crime networks, "Het criminele web: De globalisering van de misdaad" (De Banier Publishers, Utrecht, 2000), and is currently preparing a book about euthanasia in the Third Reich.

In an article that appeared in Ethics and Medicine, Vermaat gives us a glance at the way euthanasia evolved into mass killings in the Third Reich.

Vermaat states: "Karl Brandt, the head of Hitler’s euthanasia program, claimed at his trial after the war: ‘The underlying motive was the desire to help individuals who could not help themselves and were thus prolonging their lives of torment."

On the other hand, "Lothar Kreyssig, a judge from Brandenburg/Havel informed Nazi Justice Minister Gurtner about his revulsion toward this practice. He did so in a letter dated 8 July 1940:

"About two weeks ago an acquaintance told me about rumors of numerous mental patients having recently been transferred by the SS from their clinics and nursing homes to institutions in southern Germany where they were killed. ... The issue of the meaning of these lives actually touches on the very issues of existence. It leads directly to the question of God. … Destroying ‘worthless life’ is a serious matter of conscience. Life is a mystery of God. ... It is man’s incredible rebellion and arrogance to think he can terminate life because his limited judgment tells him that such life does not or does no longer have any meaning."

Dr. Kreyssig was also a member of the ‘Confessing Church,’ a vocal anti-Nazi movement within the mainstream German Evangelical Church. Like Lutheran pastor and martyr Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Kreyssig believed silence was the same as being complicit.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the German Lutheran pastor who was martyred for resisting Hitler, gave what may be the clearest expression of the principle: "If government persistently and arbitrarily violates its assigned task, then the divine mandate lapses."

Then again, during World War II there were also more than a few brave Catholic leaders in the hierarchy. Bishop Clemens August Graf von Galen preached a fire-and-brimstone sermon in the church of St. Lamberti in Muenster. In 1941, he stormed heaven and raised hell shouting to the gathering:

"It is a terrible theory [euthanasia] which wants to justify murdering the innocent, which practically legalizes the violent killing of disabled people who are no longer able to work, the crippled, the incurably sick and the decrepit ones. ... When one upholds and practices the principle that “unproductive” fellow human beings may be killed, woe then unto us all when we ourselves will be old and weak! When unproductive human beings may be killed, woe then unto the disabled who gave, sacrificed and lost their strength and healthy bones in the production process!"

Wesley J. Smith is a lawyer and expert on the American way of death and dying. "Forced Exit" is a must read for all of us growing older in an increasingly death-obsessed and declining culture.

Smith tells us: "It wasn't much more than 20 years ago that withdrawing tube-supplied food and water from a patient due to cognitive disability was virtually unthinkable in clinical medicine. Indeed, it would have been a crime in many jurisdictions. However, by the early 1990s, in the wake of the Nancy Cruzan case, virtually all states permitted families to decide to withdraw tube-supplied nutrition and hydration as a matter of the 'right to die.' Today, throughout the country, conscious and unconscious cognitively disabled people are intentionally dehydrated to death almost as a matter of medical routine when families consent."

End of Days

The Aug. 11, 2003, video taken of Terri Schiavo by her father, Bob Schindler, shows a woman who is alive and aware. She knows her mother and she tracks a balloon from one point to another. Terri's father defied Judge George Greer's court order to take that video of Terri. Because of it he may face jail time.

Nonetheless, Terri's dad did what I would do in similar circumstances. There are instances when the only thing to be done is to defy authority, including the courts. There is, after all, a higher law.

Terri's husband, Michael Schiavo, and lawyer George Felos have forbidden the Schindlers from any contact with Terri without one of their representatives present.

Gov. Jeb Bush attempted to intervene but has been castigated by Judge Greer to stay out of it. Clinton appointee Federal District Judge Lazzara stated that there is nothing anyone can do, including himself and the governor. Gov. Bush's office told the Schindlers and the press that he didn't feel he could intervene any more because of the "separation of powers."

Gov. Bush may not be aware of this, but activist courts and a complicit, lazy Congress breached separation of powers decades ago.

There is one member of one court who gets it right: "What secret knowledge, one must wonder, is breathed into lawyers when they become Justices of this Court?" Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia has asked. "Day by day, case by case, [the Court] is busy designing a Constitution for a country I do not recognize."

It will take a miracle or the bravery of a saint to confront our increasingly corrupt system. It will take a saint or brave person to intervene for Terri Schiavo and others like her.

Pope John Paul II beatifies Mother Teresa this week. Perhaps her prayerful intervention can help Terri and the REST of us. What we need is a divine rage to make the changes necessary to save us from the continued descent into hell.

As one of my favorite poets wrote:

"Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night. …
Rage, rage against the dying of the light." (Dylan Thomas)

Write to Jeb Bush at: jeb.bush@myflorida.com

or at: Jeb Bush, Governor
Executive Office of the Governor
400 S. Monroe Street
The Capitol
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0001

Sign the petition to Jeb Bush at: http://www.terrisfight.org

Phone the Governor
In Tallahassee at 850-488-7146

Phone Attorney General Charlie Crist
In Tallahassee at 850-414-3990

Phone State Attorney Bernie McCabe
In Clearwater at 727-464-6221

Organizations speaking for or joining coalitions for legalization of assisted suicide include:

American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

American Humanist Association

Americans for Democratic Action

National Association of Social Workers

Gray Panthers

Older Women's League (OWL)

some affiliates of National Organization for Women (NOW)

Libertarian Party


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To: nickcarraway
You have FReepmail.
61 posted on 10/17/2003 9:31:09 AM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: tertiary01
This could happen in any county of any state in the country, depending on the moral principles or lack of them, in the judges involved in such cases. I don't boycotting Florida would solve a thing. Not voting or supporting officials who turn a blind eye to these cases is the better route.

Judge Greer is toast. And Michael Schiavo will never have rest or peace of mind in this world or the next.

62 posted on 10/17/2003 9:41:40 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: TigersEye
Sole acquisition of funds secured for the rehabilitation and maintenence of Terri's life and health which can only be accomplished if he remains married to Terri.

In these kinds of cases, there should be no financial reward for someone who achieves the death of someone else. What I don't understand is how a blatant adulterer would have complete authority over his poor wife ---- why is her still considered her owner? Her family which loves her, and it's obvious he doesn't because he's been openly living in an adulterous relationship for years, has no say-so at all?

63 posted on 10/17/2003 9:55:32 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Theodore R.
I think he is better than Reno,...

Yikes! That's worse than damning with faint praise isn't it? Sort of like saying Madeleine Albright is better in bed than Helen Thomas. ; )

64 posted on 10/17/2003 10:10:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (Feed Terri!)
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To: FITZ
It's sick, FITZ. Sicker than the joke I just made. There is also the financial interest that the judge has in the hospice facility.

If Howard the Duck Dean were to give us Hillary Care then the cost of all medical care, across the board, would become a financial consideration of Congressional budgets and an issue of political wrangling. How long do you think they'd want patients hanging around care facilities then?

65 posted on 10/17/2003 10:16:36 AM PDT by TigersEye (Feed Terri!)
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To: .30Carbine
And appointed judges would be deciding who stays and how long just as in this case. Who approves of judicial appointments? Congress.
66 posted on 10/17/2003 10:20:48 AM PDT by TigersEye (Feed Terri!)
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correction - 'approves judicial appointments' not 'approves of ...'
67 posted on 10/17/2003 10:22:34 AM PDT by TigersEye (Feed Terri!)
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To: cyn
If you are convinced that what Terri Schiavo has been experiencing over the last several years and now is cruel and inhumane, call the FL Abuse Hotline 1 - 800 - 962 - 2873

I am on hold right now - "The Hotline is currently experiencing a high volume of calls"


GO FREEPERS
68 posted on 10/17/2003 10:30:58 AM PDT by Dasaji (Today's witchcraft is tomorrow's technology.)
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To: Dasaji; cyn; All
Still on hold - a counselor got on and told me "this is a court issue." I said, no, it is NOT, the court merely granted permission to the Guardian.

Now I am hold waiting for a SUpervisor.
69 posted on 10/17/2003 10:38:25 AM PDT by Dasaji (Today's witchcraft is tomorrow's technology.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Summer left a post last night that I'm trying to find. Details about Gov. Bush's time with the Schindlers yesterday and his assurances that he is working to find any legal way he can to stop this.

Prayer and e-mail, ping.

70 posted on 10/17/2003 10:44:17 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("criticizing somebody from a pinnacle of near-perfect ignorance is not good form." ~ Rummy, 10/16)
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To: Dasaji; cyn; All
Well, calling the hotline is a total waste of time.

The Supervisor said "this is a court ruling" "do you wish for us to go against what the court ruled?" (I said YES!)

Basically got no where, but told her I wanted it on record that I was reporting this abuse/neglect.
71 posted on 10/17/2003 10:48:27 AM PDT by Dasaji (Today's witchcraft is tomorrow's technology.)
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To: Dasaji
Thank you.
72 posted on 10/17/2003 11:07:26 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("criticizing somebody from a pinnacle of near-perfect ignorance is not good form." ~ Rummy, 10/16)
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To: Barnacle
She is not terminal. She responds to her mother, to love, to visuals, and has NEVER been given the opportunity to strengthen her muscles, to receive therapy to revive her synapses, to allow for a chance to communicate, she is not allowed to socialize with others in the hospice-ie being wheeled down to join in the sing-alongs-SHE LOVES MUSIC-her parents have slipped in headphones and a small CD so that she can hear Pavoratti and other music-her eyes widen when this happens, she smiles and turns her head to her mother, she can BREATH on her own, she had never been given enough therapy to determine if she can eat on her own or drink on her own...her ability to swallow is never given a chance to grow....she is LOVED by her parents....she is NOT A VEGATABLE unless sight, breathing on your own, sitting up, maintaining eye contact etc is what a vegatable is....

She is a prisoner....a prisoner of her husband....suffering everyday from lack of stimulation and interest.....held in isolation by order from her husband.....she is a HEROINE.

And even as she is a heroine-suffering such ABUSE, ALONE for sooooooooooooooo long, her HUSBAND is A MONSTER.

Who wants her dead. After all-he is making a family with another woman and by gosh....Terri has held on tooooooooooo damn long, try as he did to kill her with lack of love and lack of stimulation.

A pet fish gets better care.

73 posted on 10/17/2003 8:59:55 PM PDT by Republic
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To: nickcarraway
Best Terri article on the site. Good job, Nick.

Much love to you. +May God bless her in her agony+

74 posted on 10/18/2003 12:24:39 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: strela; huck von finn; Dave S
Education is here.
75 posted on 10/18/2003 12:26:27 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: nickcarraway
I'm going to have nightmares tonight.
76 posted on 10/18/2003 12:35:07 AM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: nickcarraway
It's Terri today, any one of us tomorrow.

My very elderly mother-in-law had a massive stroke a couple of months ago. She was near comatose and her doctor said that she would be a vegetable. He went on to say that "it did not hurt to starved to death."

Her vein were too fragile to allow intravenous feeding past the first few days and they removed the needle. The nurses looked sullen as to say, you know she is going to die. I looked at the nurses and said, if she can swallow, she can eat. They didn't even want to try. We brought frozen Jell-O and fruit juices from home, and a squirt bottle. Drop by drop we gave her liquids, and indeed, she swallowed. Then a little Jell-O, a little apple juice. The frozen juice would melt on her tongue and didn't risk choking her.

She started to respond and become alert. Within two day I asked them to introduce pureed foods and she ate.

Now months later, she is doing much better.

She cannot talk. She cannot walk. She can move little more than her hands and her eyes. She is often non-responsive. But she is alive. Then one day, she smiled and nodded her head. And the other day, I asked her if she wanted Jell-O or apple sauce. She pointed to the Jell-O.

She probably won't get much better than she is now. They refuse to give her therapy. They consider her non-responsive and won't try. We do what we can.

We go three times a day to feed her. It is a slow process. She cannot hold a spoon much less bring it to her mouth. It can take up to an hour a meal to feed her. Sometimes less. The nursing staff does not have the time to spend a hour feeding one patient. Some would give up in two minutes and take the tray away, others would spill more food on her that they got in her. We taste the food to make sure it's okay, and give her tiny spoonfuls that she can swallow easily. We bring a special spoon from home that is small and easier to get in her mouth.

What I'm trying to say, if you think you can depend on a hospital or nursing home to take care of you, think again.

The frightening thing I discovered one day is that all family members have to do is instruct the staff to withhold food and they will do so. One of the nurses rather indifferently let us know that it was not that uncommon. I was shocked because, of course, I consider this murder. Apparently sanctioned murder today.

Her original doctor who has treated her for years,: instead of celebrating her recovery, called to say he was going away for a couple of day and disappeared, handing her over to a second doctor, who handed her over to a third. A couple of the hospital nurses looked dejected and refused to look us in the eyes--I suppose because they were wrong and she didn't die. They had no respect for her will to live. Those of us who know her, knew she wouldn't give up without a fight.

77 posted on 10/18/2003 1:20:15 AM PDT by christie
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To: christie
God Bless you! You have learned a lot.

Reading the nursing boards online is very informative. People whining about the elderly living on, etc....

78 posted on 10/18/2003 1:30:18 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: TigersEye
The line leading to the sucking process on the two teats of George Soros is a long and complex one.
But eventually they all come back to the teats, one of which is dignity and the other, autonomy, and the pocketbook of Soros financing them, most often through the Project on Death in America.

It amazed me at first to find a pediatrician (advocating killing children for their organs) in Mass., a philosophy professor at a university in the midwest, and a right-to-die attorney in Florida, all linked to Soros and his money. Then I began to wonder about the antichrist....something I know very little about...

79 posted on 10/18/2003 1:35:19 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: All
"Forced Exit" is a must read for all of us growing older in an increasingly death-obsessed and declining culture.

YES. Great book!!!!

80 posted on 10/18/2003 1:36:27 AM PDT by MarMema
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