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This Democrat Went to a MAGA Rally to Try to Understand Trump Supporters
Vice ^ | August 17, 2019 | Liz Landers

Posted on 08/17/2019 1:13:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire — President Donald Trump threw himself another big rally Thursday night, this time in Manchester, New Hampshire, a state he nearly clinched in 2016.

We invited Lucas Meyer, the president of the Young Democrats of New Hampshire, to attend the rally with VICE News and talk to Trump’s fanatical supporters about why they love him so much. He agreed to attend because it’s “instructive to experience.”

"Maybe I'll learn something new. I don't count on it. And part of it is I want to see it to, like, motivate myself for the next year and a half,” Meyer said before we arrived downtown outside the Southern New Hampshire University Arena. The last Trump rally Meyer attended was on the day before Election Day 2016 — as a protester. After talking with five supporters, he didn’t find much common ground, even with someone who once voted blue, Jennifer McCormick. She was a big Bernie Sanders supporter in 2016, and said she was “disgusted” by the way the Democratic Party treated him in the primary process. She has found solace in Donald Trump.

When Meyer told her he believes Clinton fairly won the primary race, McCormick questioned the fact that Clinton won the popular vote.

"I think that's a fact. I don't think that's an opinion. And the fact that won. No you disagree?” Meyer responded.

(Excerpt) Read more at vice.com ...


TOPICS: New Hampshire; Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: maga; trump2020; trumprally
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1 posted on 08/17/2019 1:13:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone needs to explain to this clown that there’s no such thing as “the popular vote” in a presidential election. He needs to give the Constitution a read.


2 posted on 08/17/2019 1:19:04 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“This Democrat Went to a MAGA Rally to Try to Understand Trump Supporters “

Reminds me of...

“The Devil went down to Georgia. He was lookin’ for a soul to steal.
He was in a bind ‘cause he was way behind. He was willing to make a deal.”


3 posted on 08/17/2019 1:21:34 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus (<img src=(;.()))
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I can’t believe how far back this country has been tabulating a meaningless number.

I thought it was a fairly recent (50 or so years) event.

Boy was I wrong.


4 posted on 08/17/2019 1:21:37 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And I went to the zoo to see how Dems think.


5 posted on 08/17/2019 1:24:16 PM PDT by Lent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

““They were operating under a whole different other set of facts than what I was operating under,” he added.”

Well I thought Joe30330 said it was about truth, not facts. LOL

Wonder how many cement water bottles got thrown at him? How many times did he get pepper sprayed? Let a Trump supporter try to go to a Dem event sometime.


6 posted on 08/17/2019 1:27:16 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Scary as crap to see a guy that messed up. I wish he would have been MORE SPECIFIC as to what bothered him about Trump or his supporters, rather than simply repeating that Trump is a Fascist and his supporters are ‘brainwashed’.

What does this clown want for the country? How many national languages 20 years from now will be enough? How many laws taking away our First Amendment will be enough? (forget Second Amendment, of course) Who should be put in jail, just Trump, or Trump plus Republican leaders who support him, or everyone who supports Trump? Should his side, if given the power (think judges) to ‘re-educate’ Republicans actually do so, or are we so ‘irredeemable’ that we should just be disposed of? And what are his plans when his side collapses the economy, as will certainly happen if his side gets their way? Would his people peacefully hand over power to our side, even though we should be disposed of? Or, more likely, will he support a Stalin/Mao/Castro ‘solution’ to dealing with opposition?


7 posted on 08/17/2019 1:31:31 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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Though conversations remained civil, Meyer said that he and the Trump supporters "were talking right past each other.”

There's the problem in a nutshell. Vice sent the kid to listen, he went to talk. The subheading states the kid went into the event as a closed minded child, and every quote from him (is it even safe to call it a him?) Is him focused about himself..I hope they didn't pay him very much.

8 posted on 08/17/2019 1:37:16 PM PDT by jz638
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To: Lent
And I went to the zoo to see how Dems think.

Try the Howler Monkey enclosure towards dusk!

9 posted on 08/17/2019 1:38:47 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: LeoTDB69

“They were operating under a whole different other set of facts than what I was operating under,” he added.”

Wonder if anyone has ever explained to him that there is only ONE set of “facts”...Anything else is opinion or fallacy...


10 posted on 08/17/2019 1:40:18 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The headline is a lie, there was no intent to understand at all. No need to read an article that begins with a lie


11 posted on 08/17/2019 1:43:52 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Boy, talk about being dumb as a box of rocks.

He talked about Trump supporters being "indoctrinated" and the only one I saw that fit that description was him.

He called Trump's movement fascism without offering any evidence or proof other than his own feelings.

Typical Leftist. Nothing to learn here except that they are not bright in their breadth of understanding of Trump and his supporters.

12 posted on 08/17/2019 1:45:25 PM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: JBW1949

This is why the leftist press is “the enemy of the people”. They are intentionally and maliciously misinforming anyone unfortunate enough to give them the benefit of the doubt.

NYT just admitted it “organized the newsroom” around promoting the Russia-collusion hoax, and that their next move is to reorganize to promote racism hoaxes.

Anyone listening to them is going to be so grossly malinformed that they may as well live in a different universe.


13 posted on 08/17/2019 1:50:34 PM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: HotHunt

“Typical Leftist. Nothing to learn here except that they are not bright in their breadth of understanding of Trump and his supporters. “

and let’s hope the great bulk of them remain that way: deluded ...

because deluded people are ineffective in the real world ...


14 posted on 08/17/2019 1:51:29 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Or won the popular vote via vote fraud.
Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/


15 posted on 08/17/2019 1:52:09 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: thoughtomator

Yep...Probably 90% of the media is leftist...


16 posted on 08/17/2019 1:54:25 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She didn’t say anything she found out... unless there was more story somewhere...in that crowd, there would be plenty to “find out”.. she is too dumb on political knowledge to have an opinion.. Hillary did NOT win the election... do they actually believe that? and if so, where did they get that “fact”? if the media or some other youngun who don’t know much.. and she buys their ‘knowledge’.. she is not a good candidate to do much of anything.


17 posted on 08/17/2019 1:54:32 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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“Though conversations remained civil, Meyer said that he and the Trump supporters “were talking right past each other.”
“They were operating under a whole different other set of facts than what I was operating under,” he added. “

Maybe that’s because 1) conservatives are civil, unlike their counterparts; and 2) conservatives are much more informed about what is going on around them than bubble people


18 posted on 08/17/2019 1:55:15 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: JBW1949

Corporate media is 95%+ Democrat or further left, it’s been measured. The number of conservatives is so small as to be functionally zero, which is why they think labeling Communists like Jennifer Rubin as “conservative” is going to fly. Among their own ranks, she is!


19 posted on 08/17/2019 1:56:21 PM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: BobL

Yeah, just look at the Pol Pot regime to answer every one of your questions.


20 posted on 08/17/2019 2:02:05 PM PDT by Obadiah
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