[2ndDivisionVet]

Feeling silly yet, birthers?

[RC one]

was talking to a physician tonight who had to take a citizenship test as she is columbian. she says she was shocked to find out that Ted Cruz was running as she was informed that she was ineligible to run for POTUS because, specifically, she was not born in the US.

[Sacajaweau]

The judge’s decision means nothing. The matter can only be settled by Congress.

[grey_whiskers]

No, the fix is in, as it was for Obama.

In a way, it's worse, since Obama purportedly had a birth certificate; but I haven't figured out how one can be a "natural born citizen" of the US yet also have to renounce Canadian citizenship...

[ImNotLying]

Are you feeling stupid yet since you did not read the article?
He did not rule on the merits of Voeltz’s argument about what constitutes a natural-born citizen. He just stated that it should have been filed with the Florida Secretary of States office and not his jurisdiction.

[Abby4116]

Bowman agreed, saying Voeltz made a mistake that was fatal to his case when he removed the Florida Secretary of State as a defendant. The Secretary of State's office oversees the Division of Elections and is the only body that can be ordered to remove a candidate from a ballot.

He did not rule on the merits of Voeltz's argument about what constitutes a natural-born citizen.

[big'ol_freeper]

RE: Feeling silly yet, birthers?

No. They are knuckledraggers.

[fireman15]

The judicial branch of the government is every bit as political as the executive and congressional branches. So this is not surprising in any way... If either Rubio or Cruz makes it to the General and this is heard before a Democrat judge the outcome will most likely be quite different. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

[TXSearcher]

And these chumps will continue blowing their OWN money on these frivolous lawsuits without ever asking themselves why Trump DIDN'T do it himself if he believed there was REAL legal standing. ROFL

[Godebert]

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark make one a Natural Born Citizen

The Harvard Law Review Article Taken Apart Piece by Piece and Utterly Destroyed

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

[Sasparilla]

..the Judve agoodgreed, saying Voeltz made a mistake that was fatal to his case when he removed the Florida Secretary of State as a defendant...

Ted and Marco won on a technicality, a faulty pleading which is the Complaint comes with the Court. Once again, a technicality saved them in another Court where this kind of suit was filed.

[Aria]

NO!

Interviewer: “Hello Mr. Cruz, it’s a pleasure to meet you. My name is (redacted). I am a (redacted) County GOP Precinct Chair and you have my support and vote. I have one question for you if I may?”
Cruz: “Sure, go ahead.”
Interviewer: “What is your understanding of how one becomes a natural born Citizen?”
Cruz: “Two citizen parents and born on the soil.”
Interviewer: “Not exactly, but as I don’t have enough time to fully explain how one does become an natural born Citizen, based on your understanding, would you agree that Barack Obama is ineligible to be POTUS?”
Cruz: “I would agree.”

In addition...his globalist votes, his lying, and his downright insufferable self.

[chris37]

I don’t know if Rubio is an NBC, in fact I’m pretty sure he’s not, but Cruz is.

Furthermore, it doesn’t seem like this criteria is ever going to be used to disqualify someone from running, so uh best just to drop it.

If you want to defeat someone, just gonna have to defeat ‘em, and that’s it.

[grey_whiskers]

[RginTN]

Voeltz, who represented himself and is not an attorney,

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when you represent oneself expect failure

[stylin19a]

judge basically ruled as no standing, not the merits of the suit.

[jospehm20]

The case was tossed on a technicality not merits, just like the last one. Cruz is simply not a NBC and should not be running.

[libertylover]

A Broward judge on Friday struck down a Hollywood voter's attempt to remove Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio from the Republican presidential primary ballot.

No surprise at all to me. But I hope the ruling is appealed up, up, and up and we can establish once and for all that the children of U.S. service personnel serving overseas are full citizens.

[DouglasKC]

Nope, just like Obama, basically no standing. But there was this which I agree with:

"Attorneys for Cruz, Rubio and the Florida Republican Party, named as defendants in the lawsuit, asked Bowman to dismiss it, arguing that the candidates are eligible and if anyone says otherwise, it should be the U.S. Congress or the Electoral College"

This is my nightmare scenario if Cruz makes it that far. The electoral college will be tweaked and manipulated and they will "decide" that he is not natural born. There is no remedy after that. What they decide goes.

[Dagnabitt]

After 2 cases, the judicial score:

Cruz: 2
Rubio: 1
Birther Fever Swamp: 0

[Mariner]

"Feeling silly yet, birthers? "

Dismissed on technicalities alone.

No ruling on the merits.

But, one of the states will soon deny Cruz access to their ballot through normal, legal state process.

And that's when we'll get a decision on the merits in a federal court.