Posted on 12/11/2015 6:31:57 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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Senator Ted Cruz voted for Cloture on TPA Fast track trade authority removing the hurdle and concern of further amendments and clearing the way for passage. Again, like "unanimous consent" cloture votes are not recorded roll call votes. Thereby Ted Cruz could obfuscate his support. He figured to hide, see how that works?
However, Cruz advocacy could not be hidden entirely. On another bill HR 1314 Cruz voted against an amendment to the Trade Deal that would require congress to be consulted if China (or other nations) were to join after the fact:
Senate Amendment 1251 "To require the approval of Congress before additional countries may join the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement"…
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=1&vote=00189
Cruz voted NAY. Directly saying he did not want congress to be consulted before other countries, namely CHINA, could join TPP.
Notice during November's debate Rand Paul, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were saying China is not part of TPP; contrast their voices against Donald Trump who was honestly saying TPP carries a backdoor for China (and Russia) to join.
(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...
“Folks, this is the extent of the Trump supporters attack on Ted Cruz ...”
No, there’s more, but none are ‘attacks’, just stating facts.
He’s weaker than Trump on immigration- legal, illegal, and Muslim - but better than the rest. Probably because he’s beholden to donors. This is my #1 issue, so it’s Trump first, Cruz if I have no other choice, the others not at all.
TPA fast tracked TPP.
Meh, at least he didn’t support partial birth abortions, single pay healthcare, eminent domain abuses, assault weapons bans, the Clintons, or NSA spying on US Citizens like Trump.
This is the Corker bill!
geez...
The ignorance is stifling. Cloture votes ARE recorded. My organization tracks them all the time.
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/245827-senate-advances-fast-track-trade-bill-for-obama
The only reason unanimous consent votes aren’t recorded is because they’re unanimous (so what’s the point) and the whole purpose is to speed things up by not requiring a vote.
Below is the very public, and very widely reported explanation for why he voted for TPA; he very angrily and publicly called Mitch McConnell a liar. Not only did he not “hide” his vote, he wrote an op-ed about it:
So you question Cruz’ wisdom in accepting McConnell’s word. You can even doubt the sincerity, but don’t accuse him of covering up his vote, when he was very, very outspoken about it:
“Since the Senate first voted on TPA, there have been two material changes.
“First, WikiLeaks subsequently revealed new troubling information regarding the Trade in Services Agreement, or TiSA, one of the trade deals being negotiated by Obama.
“Despite the administration’s public assurances that it was not negotiating on immigration, several chapters of the TiSA draft posted online explicitly contained potential changes in federal immigration law. TPA would cover TiSA, and therefore these changes would presumably be subject to fast-track.
“When TPA last came up for a vote, both Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)82%
and I introduced amendments that would have barred fast-track treatment for any trade agreement that attempted to impact immigration law. Two other Republican senators objected, and we were both denied votes on our amendments. Instead, the House inserted substantially weaker language in related legislation.
“At the time that Sessions and I introduced our amendments, many said our fears were unfounded. But now we have far more reason to be concerned.
“Second, TPA’s progress through the House and Senate appears to have been made possible by secret deals between Republican Leadership and the Democrats...
“At lunch that day, I asked Majority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY)50% what precise deal had been cut to pass TPA. Visibly irritated, he told me and all my Republican colleagues that there was no deal whatsoever; rather, he simply told them they could use the ordinary rules to offer whatever amendments they wanted on future legislation.
“Taking McConnell at his word that there was no deal on Ex-Im, I voted yes on TPA because I believe the U.S. generally benefits from free trade, and without TPA historically there have been no free-trade agreements.
“But then the vote went to the House. Nancy Pelosi, to the surprise of many, led House Democrats to oppose TPA en masse. (Technically, they voted against TAA, which was wrapped into the deal on TPA.)
“At that point a group of House conservatives went to Speaker Boehner and said they could support TPA if Boehner agreed not to cut a deal with Democrats on Ex-Im, and just let the bank expire.
“Boehner declined. Instead, it appears he made the deal with Democrats, presumably tossing in the Ex-Im Bank and also increasing tax penalties on businesses.
“Moreover, the Speaker punished conservatives, wrongly stripping Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC)92%
of his subcommittee chairmanship, and reportedly threatening to strip other conservatives of their chairmanships as well.
“Why does Republican Leadership always give in to the Democrats? Why does Leadership always disregard the promises made to the conservative grassroots?
“Enough is enough. I cannot vote for TPA unless McConnell and Boehner both commit publicly to allow the Ex-Im Bank to expire—and stay expired. And, Congress must also pass the Cruz-Sessions amendments to TPA to ensure that no trade agreement can try to back-door changes to our immigration laws. Otherwise, I will have no choice but to vote no.”
And giving money to democrats...
Agreed. And I get more of hat i want with Trump. Fair enough.
TPP screws us all. There are a ton of companies already publicly saying they plan to move their manufacturing to Vietnam and other countries once TPP goes through. On top of stripping us even further of our manufacturing, it will hit us with "global warming" and immigration rules that will finish off the country.
There is nothing good about TPP or any of the trade deals we have ever signed.
By the way, is it a coincidence that Heidi Cruz-- despite Cruz's denials-- approved of the CFR's North American Union and its free-trade/open borders recommendations?
I don't think so anymore.
The idea that trade deals are bad for the American economy comes from Donald Trump which
And also more than a hundred years of Republican politics, starting with Abraham Lincoln. This country was funded by tarrifs for at least a hundred years and we weren't a communist tyranny nor in perpetual economic depression.
A nation's trade policies ought to benefit the nation, not international companies or foreign nations like China who just want to sell us stuff, not actually build stuff within our borders.
All TPA does is call for an up or down vote in the House and Senate without the opportunity for amendments.
"Without opportunity for amendments." IOW, let Barack Obama negotiate and pass a deal with a simple majority, and you can't amend it at all. Take it or leave it.
You have to appreciate the problems here.
And your point is? I already knew this but he did vote no on the final bill and Rubio cast the 60th vote.
With all your forgive trump I believe I could forgive cruz for killing cats and still not catch up with you.
Right. Cruz gave Obama and Kerry the power to negotiate trade deals.
If you think this is a good thing then I guess you have your candidate.
I’ll pass.
I agree. He did not vote for the final bill.
A concept which some Freepers seem not to be able to comprehend.
Cruz's positions are, taken as a whole, still far better than those of anyone else in the race.
We supported Cruz until this sell out.
A major sell out for Obama and SECRECY.
Cruz bowed, for his wife, to China and criminals.
Who said the dems have a monopoly on magic saviour worship?
Cruz called McConnel a liar over Ex-Im, a perfectly irrelevant and totally insignificant problem in comparison to everything he was being warned about before hand. And this he did only after he lent his vote to give Obama as much power as possible and to bring TPA to the floor. After Cruz's facebook page was slammed by thousands and thousands of posts, all of a sudden McConnel is a liar and Cruz is just an innocent dupe, supposedly. Then he writes editorials mouthing what everyone warned him about and which he ridiculed as internet conspiracy theories.
Cruz should have voted against fast tracking TPP. He knew that if he voted for TPA, TPP would get passed, but he could still say he voted against TPP.
“TPA, also known as fast-track, has created a wedge between Obama and the rest of his own party. If passed, the president could submit a finalized trade deal to Congress, like TPP, which could not be amended or filibustered and would only need a straight up or down vote to pass.
Since fast-track will make it significantly easier for the president to pass TPP, those already opposed to the trade deal are also adamantly opposed to granting the president such authority. This is where much of the confusion comes in. But though fast-track can help pass TPP, they are two different things. In fact, TPP could pass without fast-track– though it will be harder to do so.”
There was ever only one perfect Man, and we hung Him on across.
“Cruz argued that he had been the staunchest opponent of President Barack Obama in Congress. He then separated TPA (Trade Promotion Authority) and the TPP (the Trans-Pacific Partnership). He touched on TPA first, stating that “history has demonstrated, the only way to get a trade agreement adopted is with fast-track. Since FDR, consistently, for 80 years, presidents in both parties have had fast-track. Anytime fast-track has lapsed, trade agreements don’t get negotiated.†He later added that it was a “misunderstanding†to say TPA gave away the Senate’s treaty power. Cruz stated that “Under the Constitution, there are two ways to make binding law. Number one, you can pass a treaty ratified by 2/3ds of the Senate. Or number two, you can pass legislation passed by a majority of both of houses of Congress and signed by the president. … TPA uses the second constitutional path.†And “it’s been long recognized that the Constitution’s Origination Clause applies to trade bills, which means the House of Representatives has to be involved. There’s a reason why trade bills have historically not been done as treaties, because the Constitution says that anything concerning the raising of revenues, and trade bills concern tariffs, which are the raising of revenues, has to originate in the House of Representatives. So, the process of approving a trade agreement through both houses of Congress has been the way it has been done for roughly a century. And it is not giving the president more authority.â€
Giving money to Democrats and Republicans or inviting Hillary to a wedding are pretty insignificant when it comes to TPP, which literally will destroy the country. There's no coming back once it passes. America and the American dream would be dead.
What makes you think I don’t know the difference? What makes you think I have to “google them? What makes you think I cannot arrive at my own conclusions without being influenced by what other people (or organizations) think ? I don’t depend on decisions of others. I was taught to weigh all factors and come to my own conclusions. Besides, I don’t fly off the handle,m I use my own intelligence to THINK.
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