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In Debate, Hillary Clinton Will Display Skills Honed Over a Lifetime
The New York Times ^ | October 9, 2015 | Amy Chozick

Posted on 10/10/2015 3:49:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary Rodham, second from left in the back row, with her debate team in 1965 at Maine South High School in Park Ridge, Ill. She was known for her debating skills as a student.

When Hillary Rodham’s high school government teacher in Park Ridge, Ill., insisted she play the role of Lyndon B. Johnson in a mock debate of the 1964 presidential election, she protested.

Ms. Rodham, one of the school’s standout debaters, was a proud Barry Goldwater supporter (she wore a hat with an “AuH2O” logo) and an active member of the Young Republicans. But the teacher, Jerry Baker, was intent on challenging her to argue the other side.

Always a dutiful student, she agreed, settling into the library to pore for hours over Johnson’s positions on civil rights, foreign policy and health care. She prepared with such ardor and delivered such a compelling case that she even convinced herself. By the time Ms. Rodham graduated from college, she was a Democrat....

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To: Liz

She is going to be so CHARMING we won’t recognize her.

21 posted on 10/10/2015 4:25:33 AM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: rrrod

“Everyone knows this but wont say it.....”

Trump’s track record would suggest that we don’t know that and you just think that.

22 posted on 10/10/2015 4:25:58 AM PDT by odawg
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To: rrrod

Trump knows how to prepare, and can be good when he’s focussed. Plus, his style is getting more polished each day as the campaign continues.

A real open debate between Trump and Hillary would be good, and you can be damn sure Hillary will be facing tough questions & accusations, and will also - for the first time in her life - have nowhere to hide.

23 posted on 10/10/2015 4:27:00 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They will protect Mrs. Clinton at all costs.
She most probably has been given all the questions she will be asked like usual.
Moderators wil do their best to make this sexual predator enabler look presentable.

24 posted on 10/10/2015 4:29:32 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: Ann Archy

Oh, okay.....”charm” is the operative word. LOL.

25 posted on 10/10/2015 4:30:55 AM PDT by Liz
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To: rrrod
Hate to say it but she will totally destroy Trump. She will make him like a complete fool.

What did I miss? When is HRC debating Trump?

26 posted on 10/10/2015 4:34:03 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama = Harper - Mercer)
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To: Gen.Blather

The fake, proud, mocking, beaming, smiling smirk she gave with that response really got my goat.

I hope her failure is spectacularly televised.

27 posted on 10/10/2015 4:42:14 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just lost my breakfast... what ever happened to the “Barf Alert”? I guess I should have taken it for granted when I saw it was a NYT article.

28 posted on 10/10/2015 4:42:51 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the '17th amendment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is nonsense. Hillary was a horrible debatot against Obama and got her butt kicked every time they were on stage.

29 posted on 10/10/2015 4:44:35 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t want Carley as prez candidate, but would love to see her debate Hitlary.

“I crush you.”

30 posted on 10/10/2015 4:50:08 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No bet.

31 posted on 10/10/2015 4:51:05 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Flashback 2008: Hillary-Obama Debate

(for the record, both the Weather Underground AND the Black Panthers were communist-revolutionary domestic terrorist groups -ETL)

"I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid directorship position.

And, if I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York and, I would hope, to every American, because they were published on 9/11, and he said that he was just sorry they hadn't done more.

And what they did was set bombs. And in some instances, people died. So it is -- I think it is, again, an issue that people will be asking about. ..."


Hillary and the [original 1960s] Black Panthers: The Real Story ^ | Aug 19, 2003 | Richard Poe

I can't take it anymore. If one more person sends me that e-mail about Hillary and the Black Panthers, I'll have to be dragged away screaming in a straitjacket.

You know the e-mail I'm talking about. It accuses Hillary of helping the Black Panthers get away with torture and murder during the early 1970s. With the 2004 presidential race drawing near, the spam mills are creaking to life, flooding the Internet once more with this agitprop classic.

Unfortunately, the e-mail mingles good information with bad, sowing more confusion than enlightenment. Some versions, for instance, carry the byline of radio talk jock Paul Harvey, who says he did not write it. Such misrepresentations help Hillary defenders dismiss the e-mail as a hoax.

The story is no hoax, though. Its basic elements can be found in respected Hillary biographies and exposes such as Barbara Olson's "Hell to Pay," David Brock's "The Seduction of Hillary Rodham," Joyce Milton's "The First Partner" and Carl Limbacher's "Hillary's Scheme."

Here are the facts:

In May 1969, fishermen discovered the body of Black Panther Alex Rackley floating in Connecticut's Coginchaug River. Rackley's captors had clubbed him, burned him with cigarettes, scalded him with boiling water and stabbed him with an ice pick before finally shooting him in the head.

New Haven detectives learned that the Panthers suspected Rackley of being a police informer. Panther enforcers had tied him to a chair and tortured him for hours. Police arrested eight Panthers and later extradited Panther leader Bobby Seale from California, after a witness accused Seale of ordering Rackley's death. (1)

Campus radicals supported the Panthers. They organized mass protests in support of the so-called "New Haven Nine." Hillary was right in the thick of it.

By the time she entered Yale Law School in 1969, Hillary was already a radical celebrity on campus. Life magazine had featured Hillary in a piece titled, "The Class of '69," which showcased three student activists whom Life's editors deemed the best and brightest of the year. A line Hillary used in her Wellesley College commencement speech appeared under her photo: "Protest is an attempt to forge an identity." (2)

At Yale, Hillary helped edit the Yale Review of Law and Social Action – a left-wing journal which promoted cop-killing and featured cartoons of pig-faced police. (3)

A series of hard-Left mentors introduced Hillary to the brass-knuckle realities of revolutionary activism. As a Wellesley undergraduate, she met and interviewed radical organizer Saul Alinsky, whose Machiavellian tactics she admired. Hillary's senior thesis supported Alinsky's call for class warfare. (4)

At Yale, Hillary found a new Svengali in the form of left-wing law professor Thomas Emerson, known around campus as "Tommy the Commie." Emerson recruited Hillary and other students to help monitor the trial of the New Haven Nine for civil rights violations. Hillary took charge of the operation, scheduling the students in shifts, so that student monitors would always be present in the courtroom. She befriended and worked closely with Panther lawyer Charles Garry. (5)

Some believe that the enormous pressure exerted by the Left helped ensure light sentences for the New Haven Nine. Whether or not this is true, the punishments were mild.

"Only one of the killers was still in prison in 1977," reports John McCaslin in the Washington Times. "The gunman, Warren Kimbro, got a Harvard scholarship and became an assistant dean at Eastern Connecticut State College. Ericka Huggins, who boiled the water for Mr. Rackley's torture, got elected to a California school board." (6)

Hillary's defenders argue that she played no "significant" role in the New Haven Nine's defense. This is semantic hairsplitting. Obviously, Hillary was less "significant" than Charles Garry or "Tommy the Commie" Emerson. But Hillary served as a trusted lieutenant to these movers and shakers. Moreover, she had a national profile as a campus activist. Hillary was no rank-and-file student protester, as her apologists claim.

Indeed, Hillary's work for the Panthers won her a summer internship at the Berkeley office of attorney Robert Treuhaft in 1972. A hardline Stalinist, Treuhaft had quit the Communist Party in 1958 only because it was losing members and no longer provided a good platform for his activism. (7) "Treuhaft is a man who dedicated his entire legal career to advancing the agenda of the Soviet Communist Party and the KGB," notes historian Stephen Schwartz. (8)

The defense of the New Haven Nine marked Hillary's initiation into the sinister underworld of the hard-core, revolutionary Left. To my knowledge, Hillary has never publicly renounced nor apologized for her role in that movement.

Richard Poe is a New York Times best-selling author and cyberjournalist. For more information on Poe and his writings, visit his Web site, He may be reached at richardpoe@....

1. Joyce Milton, The First Partner: Hillary Rodham Clinton. William, Morrow and Company, Inc., New York, 1999, p. 35. Barbara Olson, Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Regnery Publishing, Washington, D.C., 1999, p. 55.
2. Milton, 1999, p. 34; Olson, 1999, pp. 40-45.
3. Olson, 1999, p. 59-61; Evan Gahr, "Hillary and the Cop-Bashers: Will the Real Ms. Rodham Please Stand Up?", June 20, 2000.
4. David Brock, The Seduction of Hillary Rodham. The Free Press, New York, 1996, pp. 14-17; Olson, 1999, pp. 46, 48, 50.
5. Milton, 1999, p. 17; Brock, 1996, pp. 31-32; Olson, 1999, p. 54-56.
6. John McCaslin, "Hillary for the Defense." Inside the Beltway, The Washington Times, June 12, 1998, p. A9.
7. Olson, 1999, pp. 56-57.
8. Brock, 1996, p. 33.

32 posted on 10/10/2015 4:56:00 AM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As long as there is no fact check she will do well.
That holds especially true for Biden, when he jumps in, and he will.

33 posted on 10/10/2015 4:56:05 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She may have been doing these things since childhood but she remains a poor liar and deceiver. Bill far outclasses her in the lying, deceiving, corrupting, retaliating, and cheating categories.

34 posted on 10/10/2015 4:57:52 AM PDT by Rapscallion ("I never had sex with that server. Never.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go to the end of the line! (13 seconds long clip)

35 posted on 10/10/2015 5:09:02 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can see the brain washed sheep and left wing true believers reading the NYT but how can anyone with the ability to really think still buy that pathetic excuse for a paper

36 posted on 10/10/2015 5:12:51 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We want her to debate. She is hiding and has been for months. The more she is in the public’s view, the less she is liked. She is not smart as portrayed earlier. She flip flops on positions because she can. X % will vote for her anyway. She is starting to lose the Unions. Dems will kick her out soon enough.

37 posted on 10/10/2015 5:15:02 AM PDT by DrDude (Does anyone have a set of balls anymore?)
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To: oblomov

Ah yes, but we get to decide who is lying! Nevermind, most folks won’t watch and the media will tell them who is lying.

38 posted on 10/10/2015 5:23:48 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is it with libs and school? All of them take their best memories and life experiences Decent Americans get their life experiences from WORK and/or The Military. But you’ll notice that libs are obsessed with their degrees, their averages, their valedictorian status and belong to endless alumni clubs. It makes them nitwits.

And I don’t remember Hillary outshining Obama in their debate.

39 posted on 10/10/2015 5:26:41 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Rapscallion
 photo Bill Clinton 03_zps9beoxlew.jpg
40 posted on 10/10/2015 5:27:00 AM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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