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1 posted on 03/08/2011 11:39:30 AM PST by garycsr55
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Two best approaches:

1) Refuse to raise the debt ceiling. This forces cuts, even within entitlements.
2) Create a balanced budget, not a penny in deficit spending, send it to Obama for his signature. No signature, and the government shuts down. And it stays shutdown until he signs it. End of story. Put the ball in his court for the shutdown -- be serious about balancing the budget.

But the GOP will do neither of these things.

2 posted on 03/08/2011 11:43:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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NO because that will most certainly cause the government to balance the budget on the backs of the American people by raising taxes.

FORCE LOWER TAXES and CUT GOVERNMENT ACCORDINGLY. That is the way to financial health and prosperity.

3 posted on 03/08/2011 11:46:04 AM PST by Jim W N
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ONLY one problem with that...
Raise taxes to equal spending like a drunken sailor..
AND you have a balanced budget..

The problem is not a balanced budget amendment.. ITS!!!
GUTTING the federal government like a fish, cutting off its head and fileting it removing all skin and bones..
OH!!!!!... and reduce taxes to match it..

4 posted on 03/08/2011 11:47:38 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: garycsr55

Next, will you be telling us to share the wealth?

IBTZ.


5 posted on 03/08/2011 11:53:15 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: darkwing104; Old Sarge

Newbie says life isn’t fair and we really don’t need our social security benefits - lets give them back to the gubmint - PING


7 posted on 03/08/2011 11:55:52 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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The states need to step in and force the Federal government into a balanced budget or leave the union. There is no other way. Entitlements, as planned by the Left, have grown to the point where budget cuts cannot work. If they could work, Congress would be doing it. Only a currency collapse will force the states to act and, as a result of the collapse, the American middle class will be wiped out. There is no turning back without Congress slashing entitlements. And, dear readers, is not going to happen.


8 posted on 03/08/2011 11:58:20 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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Means testing for SS is nothing more than wealth redistribution; and it’s not charity if government forces you to do it - it’s theft.


9 posted on 03/08/2011 12:03:57 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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Yep, we are going to have to cut SS, Medicaid, Medicare etc for nearly all citizens. Surely for all non-citizens. A country cannot just go on adding to its debt year after year. The bill will come due, and when the creditors demand, our govt will capitulate. For those that think we would use our military to hold onto our countries assets, think again. Even the brave men in the military won’t fight battles without pay.


11 posted on 03/08/2011 12:11:16 PM PST by runninglips (government debt = slavery of the masses)
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Public Sector Pensions and Benefits are Entitlements too.
Lets face it the amount the union members pay into their pensions and what they get exceeds what the paid in. taxpayers have paid for the unions to suck off the teat of the taxpayer way too Long.

There are federal employees whom owe back taxes and yet they are employed and are not forced to pay their taxes until they get nominated to a WH office - Timothy Geitner, Tom Daschle. supposed there are 80 + million owed by just federal employees in terms of back taxes.

What about the immigrants whom come here to the US and pay no taxes for 7 years.

What about the illegal immigrants whom get medical care and other benies without ever paying taxes into the system.

what about the single mothers whom continue to have a baby after baby just so the can get Food stamps, rental assistance, wic and you name it they get.

what about the idiot politicians whom voted that they take a pay cut of 5%. Why not a pay cut of 50%, cuts to their lifetime benefits and pensions. Come now whom has an entitlement - the politicians in DC, State County and Local Governments.

There are people whom are on Social security Disability whom should never received it, nor ar e no longer eligible to receive it. It is ironic someone whom has a diagnosis of some the simplest mental illness disorders are eligible to get Social security Disability. when they get the lump sum payment they go out a purchase a host of crap.

I do know of some people whom utilize social security disability strive to get their medical issues in order. make themselves employable and strive to utilize a program voluntary in nature Ticket to Work. guess what the econmoy is so bad that many of them who have joined the workforce have been the first to lose their jobs. There are others whom wish to do so but are unable to do so because the economy is in the toilet.

So praytell whom is the ones being the ones whom desire entitlements are the politicians, public sector employees and a bunch of wussies in DC and state capitols, as well as the county and local level whom have no spine and lack the cahones to take a firm stand to cut and face the real problems at the local, county, state and federal levels.


13 posted on 03/08/2011 2:18:47 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: garycsr55

Thanks, everyone for your input.

Now, just so everyone knows, I am myself a recipient of some of those entitlement funds. I’m a disabled Vietnam veteran and I do receive a pension.

Cutting entitlements, especially to the extent that’s needed, would definitely hurt my financial situation, probably catastrophically.

However, I stand by what I said. If I take a hit, then so be it. I’ve been homeless before and survived it. I’m ready to make sacrifices if that’s what it takes to help save my children’s and grandchildren’s future.

It is a fact, that politicians on both sides of the aisle keep lying about the so-called ‘Social Security Trust Fund’. This is a complete fiction, used to make people think their retirement funds are ‘protected’. The truth is, all monies EVER collected as FICA and Medicare, have gone directly into the General Fund.

Don’t trust ANY politician. Especially progressives (socialists). They all have their own self interests at heart.


15 posted on 03/09/2011 6:29:57 AM PST by garycsr55 (Shardenfreude)
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