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H.Res.414 calculates slavery reparations for the years of 1619 up to 1865. What is the argument for why the United States should pay on behalf of the British Empire?
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Posted on 08/14/2026 6:17:49 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

  1. You said:

    H.Res.414 calculates slavery reparations for the years of 1619 up to 1865. What is the argument for why the United States should pay on behalf of the British Empire?

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    There is an important distinction here: H.Res. 414 does not actually argue that the United States should compensate people for slavery because Britain committed it. Its argument is that the United States, after independence, inherited and continued the institution and therefore assumed responsibility for its own conduct and its continuing consequences.

    The key passage is unusually explicit. It says that, beginning with the nation's founding in 1776, federal policies "produced and sustained" slavery, thereby "voluntarily accepting the British legacy of the institution, and with it, the responsibility to provide reparations." CCongress.gov

    The argument, step by step

    1. The resolution acknowledges that slavery predated the United States.

    It traces enslavement in territory that became the United States to the colonial period, including the 1619 arrival of enslaved Angolans in Virginia. So the resolution isn't claiming that the U.S. government invented slavery in 1619. In fact, it explicitly describes the broader transatlantic slave trade as having existed for centuries before American independence. CCongress.gov

    2. But it treats 1776 as the point at which Americans assumed responsibility for the existing system.

    The resolution's theory is essentially successor responsibility: the colonies became an independent nation, but the new nation retained slavery rather than abolishing it. The Constitution subsequently protected or accommodated slavery in several ways—the fugitive-slave clause, the three-fifths clause, and the 20-year protection of the international slave trade are specifically cited. CCongress.gov

    So the argument isn't:

    Britain enslaved people → therefore modern Americans owe compensation.

    It's closer to:

    Britain established/inherited slavery in the colonies → the independent United States chose to retain, protect, and economically benefit from that institution → the U.S. government therefore became independently responsible for the resulting harms.

    3. The resolution regards the United States as having benefited from slavery.

    It points to the enormous economic value of enslaved people and their labor, including its assertion that forced labor between 1619 and 1865 would be worth approximately $97 trillion in today's dollars under the methodology it cites. It also argues that slavery helped generate American wealth and that the racial wealth gap is an enduring consequence. CCongress.gov

    4. It goes beyond the British colonial period.

    This is probably the most important answer to your question. The resolution's reparations case isn't confined to 1619–1776. It explicitly assigns responsibility to the Federal Government for things that occurred after independence: preserving slavery, segregation, discriminatory housing and banking policies, racial violence, and other government actions. CCongress.gov

    Consequently, the period from 1619 to 1865 is being treated as one continuous historical chain, but the claimed defendant isn't simply the British Empire. The defendant is the U.S. government for the portions of that chain over which it claims the United States became responsible.

    There is nevertheless a legitimate historical objection

    If your question is really asking, "Why should a person in the United States today be financially liable for something that began under British rule?", H.Res. 414 doesn't completely solve that philosophical problem merely by saying the U.S. "accepted the British legacy."

    There are actually two separate liability questions:

    1. Colonial liability (1619–1776): Why should the United States pay for harms inflicted when the colonies were British possessions?
    2. American liability (1776–1865): Why should the United States pay for slavery and government policies that it itself maintained after independence?

    The second question has a much stronger connection to the resolution's argument. The first is considerably more debatable.

    And there's an additional wrinkle: H.Res. 414 isn't actually a bill calculating a legally enforceable debt. It is a House resolution expressing recognition and support for a reparations framework. It was introduced on May 15, 2025, and referred to the Judiciary Committee; it had not become law. CCongress.gov+1

    So, if someone challenged the resolution specifically on the ground "You're charging the United States for 1619–1776, when the United States didn't exist," the strongest response from the resolution's supporters would be:

    The United States inherited the colonial institution in 1776 and deliberately preserved it, constitutionally protected it, profited from it, and continued it for another 89 years; therefore the United States assumed responsibility for the institution and its accumulated consequences.

    But that doesn't logically establish that the United States is legally liable for every harm occurring before 1776. That's a separate proposition, and H.Res. 414 largely asserts rather than demonstrates that proposition.

    One other point worth flagging: the resolution itself actually reaches farther back than 1619. It says the full impact should account for slavery beginning as early as 1502, when enslaved Africans were brought to Hispaniola and their descendants later brought to U.S. territory. CCongress.gov

    So if you're examining the resolution critically, the pre-1776 portion is probably the most vulnerable part of its causal/liability argument, whereas the claim concerning slavery maintained by the United States from 1776–1865 is much more straightforward.CSources

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 1619project; pre1776; reparations; vulnerability; weakness

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To: ProgressingAmerica

1776 was the year we declared independence; however, we did not become an independent nation until 1783 when our government sighed the Treaty of Paris.


21 posted on 08/14/2026 7:12:22 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Anything after 1828 should be paid by the Democrat Party.


22 posted on 08/14/2026 7:17:06 PM PDT by far sider
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To: ProgressingAmerica

There is no money for reparations. The left likes to keep mentioning as it’s a good way to keep a few stupid people on the Democrat plantation. Reparations and a winning lottery ticket is the full extent of their retirement plan.


23 posted on 08/14/2026 7:17:20 PM PDT by doggieboy
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I want to be paid for the millions of Indians we brought over here in the last 10 years and took my job.


24 posted on 08/14/2026 7:20:34 PM PDT by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Material position today

MeasureU.S. Black households / peopleSub-Saharan Africa benchmarkWhat it implies
IncomeRecent estimates place median Black household income around $56,020 in 2024Regional GDP per capita was about $1,673 in 2025The typical U.S. Black household has access to an economic environment with income many multiples of the regional African average
Household wealthCensus analysis of 2021 data found median wealth of $24,520 for households headed by a Black personNo comparable all-Africa household-wealth measure; household financial and property wealth is generally much lower in the regionU.S. residency produces far greater access to formal banking, housing finance, retirement assets, insurance, capital markets, and public infrastructure
Share of national wealthBlack-headed households were 13.6% of U.S. households but held 4.7% of U.S. household wealthNot directly comparableBlack Americans are economically disadvantaged within the U.S., but are situated in a much wealthier national economy than most likely African alternatives

The household-income figure should not be compared mechanically to GDP per capita—one is household median income and the other national output per person—but the orders of magnitude make the main point clear: the average material standard of living in the United States is far higher than in sub-Saharan Africa.

 

What did Muhammed Ali say? Thank God my Grandaddy got on the boat!

 

In other words every decedent of slaves owes a debt of gratitude in that they were not born and raised in Africa.

25 posted on 08/14/2026 7:41:15 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (TDS: Trump Deification Syndrome)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

It should be pointed out that it was the British and the Americans who ended slavery.


26 posted on 08/14/2026 7:41:46 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

The Irish,Scotch,and other poor english were in the
western hemisphere before the slaves from Africa.

california never had slaves,other then from china...


27 posted on 08/14/2026 7:52:02 PM PDT by skinny old man (Still lurking and posting after all these years(27 yrs ?)(more ?)(seems like more...))
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To: Maine Mariner

I agree that 1776 is likely the more appropriate number historically however H.Res.414 mentions 1776.

Either way it’s not the U.S.’s burden to bear.


28 posted on 08/14/2026 7:54:09 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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To: marron

After 1776? Way after 1776?

That would be a distraction.


29 posted on 08/14/2026 7:54:43 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
No one alive today should be held accountable for what happened 160+ years ago.

30 posted on 08/14/2026 8:26:55 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty)
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To: VTenigma

We’ve been paying reparations for decades through all sorts of social programs. It’s done more harm than good.


31 posted on 08/14/2026 8:29:13 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: All

Slavery was not illegal then...there are no living slaves...no reparations...


32 posted on 08/14/2026 8:31:23 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: Responsibility2nd
Black Americans are economically disadvantaged within the U.S.,...

This is genarally true. Why? Mostly because of their own decisions about handling their money!

33 posted on 08/14/2026 9:16:11 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt (Fascist, deplorable, and proud of it!)
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To: Maine Mariner

Wow. I meant to say I agree about 1783. It makes perfect sense.


34 posted on 08/14/2026 9:22:16 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

3/24/2023: FrontPageMag.com - "Ten Reasons Why Reparations for Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks And racist too. " by David Horowitz

35 posted on 08/14/2026 9:23:09 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Since there were 11 slave states, those States should pay for any damages

Note, looking out for these States to moves to correct.

36 posted on 08/14/2026 10:20:27 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Why isn’t Africa on the hook for any “reparations”? They were selling their fellow countrymen and profited by it. It is more than likely the slave trade continues there still.


37 posted on 08/15/2026 12:51:39 AM PDT by punknpuss ("Even my different drummer heard a different drummer.” -- Florence King)
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To: Jamestown1630

There should be an accounting for benefits afforded to descendants of slavery. I’m sure there are Caucasians drawing for the government but they’re not the ones making demands


38 posted on 08/15/2026 3:31:52 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness)
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To: griswold3

No issue would so divide the American People. How do you find the decedents of slaves? What about blacks who owned slaves? What about Native Americans who owned them? Is this for slavery or Jim Crow outrages? IF you could find the right people—and if each one got a million dollars (if the money could be found) How long before it would be spent? Then, blacks, now broke, would want more. Historical problems can not be solved like this. Native people have a bigger claim. Its a great issue to get votes but—in truth it will cause problems beyond imagination.


39 posted on 08/15/2026 3:57:16 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell, War IS a Crime.)
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To: ealgeone

It was also paid with plenty of White American’s blood well before that.

And, they should be looking to their own and muslim/islamist slavers who engineered the lot of it.


40 posted on 08/15/2026 5:55:41 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesn't have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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