Savoies is better
Posted on 03/05/2026 5:50:52 AM PST by nuconvert
Ragin' Cajun on X: "I am not a jingoist by any stretch of the word. Moreover, my daughter is on the USS Lincoln as we speak. I have skin in this game. I have read (and heard) a lot of BS about whether or not we should be in Iran. Let me be clear...I've been a SME on Iran for 25÷ years. I speak Persian Farsi, Dari, Balochi, and Tajik. I've been to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and yes... Iran. There are few who know Iran as "intimately" as I do.
The reasons for this war are nuanced and complicated, but one thing is clear as day... the Iranian people (by and large) are good people and they just want to have the same liberty and freedom we have. Their women and girls want to be able to go out into public without having to fear if they'll be arrested and beaten (or even killed) by the "Virtue Police".
If you cannot see that, and you cannot support the liberation of a people that have been brutally oppressed for 47+ years... then you have no humanity and you and I are not the same.
-Con't on X -
Savoies is better
“”You can have that retarded baboon. I’ll go with George Washington. His farewell address to Congress is literally riddled with references that are completely at odds with the nonsense you’ve linked in your post.””
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Holy crap. Are you for real? More hysterical projection re: the nonsense that you’re pushing here. You reference something that was said over two hundred years ago. Psst! Things have changed a bit in the world since then.
And you claim those are globalist sources, but since they are decidedly pro-American comments, that shoots down your claim right off the bat. Globalists are never pro-American.
But really, thanks for the much needed laugh. I am now made only too aware not to take you or your posts seriously, henceforth.
You've come on this independent, grass-roots conservative website and claimed that it is imperative for the U.S. to meddle in foreign affairs as a matter of national policy. And to support your case, you've posted references to three sources:
1. The George W. Bush Institute
2. A U.S. State Department "fact sheet" published by the Biden administration.
3. An article written by an Ivy League professor who worked in the U.S. State Department in the Clinton and Obama administrations.
LMAO. You're clearly a troll, dude. Give it up and go find some other place to post that sh!t.
So ripping apart the infrastructure of the country, dropping bombs that killed 168 elementary school-aged girls and openly targeting Shia religious leaders in a nation that is 90% Shite and someone is stupid enough to think the masses in Iran are going to view us a liberators?
bea·con /ˈbēkən/. noun. — a fire or light set up in a high or prominent position as a warning, signal, or celebration.
Dude claims to speak 7 middle eastern languages but does not know what beacon means. Beacons are something to be seen, not a laser death ray democratizing the world.”
John Quincy Adams said it best in 1821, referring to America as ‘she’:
She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart.
… .
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.
But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.
She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.
She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force.... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....
“”You’ve come on this independent, grass-roots conservative website and claimed that it is imperative for the U.S. to meddle in foreign affairs as a matter of national policy. And to support your case, you’ve posted references to three sources:””
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Oh look...yet more projection on your part and such a cute little graphic that illustrates you, not me.
Where, exactly, did I claim that it was “imperative for the U.S. to meddle in foreign affairs as a matter of national policy”? I did state and show proof that it is historical FACT that America has worked towards freedom for those in other nations, as well. You call that meddling, which shows your true colors... as well as your anti-American bent.
Additionally, I fully support Trump’s current initiative in Iran. You don’t. Thus proving...
You are the troll here, dear. Thanks for making that crystal clear.
They already do.
I DON'T support Trump's current initiative in Iran. And guess what -- At one time, HE didn't either.
“”LMAO. You’re clearly a troll, dude. Give it up and go find some other place to post that sh!t.””
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One more thing....
I’m not a “dude”...
and I’m not going anywhere. So dream on.
Just because YOU can't seem to comprehend the “good” coming from our CORRECT and RIGHTEOUS action does not make said action unwarranted. Your opinion is noted, and rightly rejected for the sake of the greater good for mankind, MY family, MY extended family, My friends, MY neighbors, ETC...
You made yourself an “enemy” due to your blatant anti semitic rantings and cowardly self centered holier than thou attitude.
As far as I'm concerned, you can take your self righteous horsecrap and shove it up your fourth point of contact, you liberal POS jackass coward.
Go Eff Yourself.
“”I DON’T support Trump’s current initiative in Iran. And guess what — At one time, HE didn’t either.””
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Yeah, well... like I said re: your hilarious reference from over two centuries ago...
things have changed. You’re apparently stuck in a vacuum of the dinosaur past... and thank God that Trump can and WILL change with the times and situations in order to protect this nation and Americans...
unlike you and your ilk.
Yay! Humblegunner! Great to “see” you!
And that is how you get a 2006 bloodbath in the Congressional elections and Barack Hussein Obama elected in 2008.
Good luck with that sh!t. You have only yourself to blame.
Maybe you'll figure it out in 2027 when a Democrat Congress passes a blanket amnesty bill and Donald Trump signs it into law ... because "he WILL change with the times and the situations," and all that.
How are...
“MY family, MY extended family, My friends, MY neighbors,”
..helped by fighting Israel’s wars?
Are the people you mention in Israel? Do they have dual citizenship there?
“”And that is how you get a 2006 bloodbath in the Congressional elections and Barack Hussein Obama elected in 2008.
Good luck with that sh!t. You have only yourself to blame.
Maybe you’ll figure it out in 2027 when a Democrat Congress passes a blanket amnesty bill and Donald Trump signs it into law ... because “he WILL change with the times and the situations,” and all that.””
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Oh, so now you’re using your concern troll schtick...lol. Here’s a clue for ya. The reason ‘why’ Trump is doing this Iran initiative “”now”” is precisely because historically, the incumbent GOP administration loses in the mid-terms. It is a known pattern, especially with factored-in Democrat election and voter fraud, no matter what the GOP president does or does not do. So yeah... the Trump team has anticipated that already and is way ahead of you.
And your concern that Trump will sign off on and pass a sweeping amnesty bill that the Democrats push is more a case of you dreaming, methinks. It won’t happen.
You guys are hilarious. Truly. So please...by all means... do continue. I’m enjoying the laughs you’re providing.
*** I DON’T support Trump’s current initiative in Iran. And guess what — At one time, HE didn’t either.***
Agree! And, for those who didn’t know, here are some reminders of Trump’s promises from his past political life:
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2028623189874475326
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Trump’s speech to Arab leaders at the Investment Forum in Riyadth
May 13, 2025
“This great transformation has not come from Western interventionists … giving you lectures on how to live or how to govern your own affairs. No, the gleaming marvels of Riyadh and Abu Dhabi were not created by the so-called ‘nation-builders,’ ‘neo-cons,’ or ‘liberal non-profits,’ like those who spent trillions failing to develop Kabul and Baghdad, so many other cities. Instead, the birth of a modern Middle East has been brought about by the people of the region themselves … developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your own unique visions, and charting your own destinies.”
“In the end, the so-called ‘nation-builders’ wrecked far more nations than they built — and the interventionists were intervening in complex societies that they did not even understand themselves.”
https://x.com/savakzadeh/status/2029511029621653628/mediaviewer
There are thousands of posts and videos sharing that sentiment. They welcome the bombs and indeed DO see us liberators.
One more quote from Trump’s speech in Riyadth May 13, 2025:
“In recent years, far too many American presidents have been afflicted with the notion that it’s our job to look into the souls of foreign leaders and use U.S. policy to dispense justice for their sins … I believe it is God’s job to sit in judgement — my job [is] to defend America and to promote the fundamental interests of stability, prosperity, and peace.”
We're now at the point where posting exact quotes from Donald Trump will get you called a Democrat and a troll on FR. LOL.
Literally untrue. The Preamble to the Constitution outright indicates as much: "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
How exactly have our interventions in the Middle East secured domestic tranquility? How do they secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our descendants?
It's also ironic that you would quote Proverbs 31 in support of your position, given that it is from the words of the King of Israel: were those words in reference to those who were not under the king's dominion (the Iranians, in this metaphor)? Or were they in regard to the people actually under his jurisdiction (which, in this case, would be Americans)?
For all your talk about how times have changed since the era of Washington, it's worth bearing in mind that they would look aghast in horror upon a nation that extended the voting franchise to people who don't own property; that allowed direct popular election of Senators (which completely undermines the federalistic intent of the government they established); that allowed the institution of an income tax; and so on and so forth.
Bottom line: America's own house needs to be put to order. To pretend that foreign interventions will make our own domestic disorder go away is a fool's errand, as the last 25 years has made more than apparent.
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