Posted on 12/05/2025 5:33:00 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
Many companies claim to be modern and fair, yet some old habits still survive surprisingly well. One employee found out just how quickly things can escalate when she questioned a task she’d been quietly assigned for months.
Hello, Bright Side,
I’m 27F, a project engineer. My boss kept asking me to take notes at meetings with clients. I didn’t mind at first, until I noticed I was the only one he asked. When I finally refused, he smirked and said, “Women are best at it.” I reported him to HR.
The next day, I was heading to my desk when a coworker grabbed my arm and whispered, “He’s pissed. He’s been blaming you all morning.” I honestly felt sick walking to my workstation because I had no idea what he’d try next.
When I came up to my desk, I saw a small box sitting on it. Inside was a note. It said: “We both know you’ve overreacted. Let’s fix this between us.” There was also a Starbucks gift card for $10.
I immediately gave the box to HR. They asked if he’d contacted me outside of work (he hadn’t). They said the gift card was an attempt to influence an active investigation, which is against policy. He was suspended and then let go. I’m very glad HR took it seriously before things escalated.
But... am I wrong for not giving him a chance to talk privately before going to HR?
Mary
Hello, Mary,
Well, this line—"Women take better notes“—could be displayed right next to “You’re too emotional for leadership” and “We’re like a family here” in the Museum of Workplace Misconceptions.
1. The note-taking comment wasn’t harmless—it was a clear bias cue. Your boss didn’t say, “You take good notes.” He said, “Women are best at it.” That’s not a compliment. It’s a category error.
That smirk you mentioned? That’s the behavioral equivalent of someone saying, “I know exactly what I’m doing, and try me.”
2. The gift card wasn’t a peace offering—it was a policy violation. A $10 Starbucks card is many things:
A gesture of apology? A weak attempt at bribery? A liquid asset valued at precisely one latte and a cake pop? But what it is not is an appropriate response during an HR investigation.
In corporate compliance, even small gifts can be considered attempts to influence outcomes. There are entire HR training modules dedicated to this.
3. Giving him a “private conversation” first was never your job. Let’s imagine what a private talk would have looked like:
You: “Your comment was inappropriate.” Him: “Relax.” You: “I won’t take notes on command anymore.” Him: “You women are so sensitive.”
You heard your colleague, your boss spent the morning blaming you. He didn’t consider that he was wrong. Not a single second.
Going directly to HR was the only appropriate step.
So, are you wrong? No. Not even slightly. You handled this like someone who understands not only her rights, but also the psychological pattern of someone trying to test boundaries and save himself when caught.
Bright Side
And Mary isn’t the only one who’s faced this kind of pushback. When Gloria, a senior analyst, was told a leadership role was “too demanding for women,” she filed a report—and a few months later, she was the one sitting in her boss’s chair.
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Jim
My God.
I’ve got to figure out how to get some made up stories monetized like this one. These people have to be making a fortune!
Just look at this thread...
How can she take accurate notes when she has to get up repeatedly to get the coffee?
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Nobody reads the notes anyway. While she’s up she should make the boss a sandwich.
AI workers/robots are going to put HR out of business.
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Maybe not
AI can escillate HR times 100.
The field is a little crowded and you'll need to be very organized to not repeat too many of the same details that would make it obvious.
Your advertisers will sell candles, chocolate, cat items, coffee mugs, home decor items, etc., in addition to some "boss babe" stuff and yes, you could make a fortune.
When Gloria, a senior analyst, was told a leadership role was “too demanding for women,” she filed a report—and a few months later, she was the one sitting in her boss’s chair.”
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This will be the tactic going forward.
You wll need to document every interaction with any female under you or over you. How else to protect yourself from false accusation.
There you go again with the assumptions. “possibly stupid or Hitlerian”, and “possibly underlying racial dynamics”. How about maybe, even possibly he was a serial killer, trying to lure her with gifts? Who knows? The soap opera material here is enough for several episodes. Bottom line, imho this should have been handled differently by her. If she was smart, she could have used this to her advantage buy embarrassing him in follow up meetings with her notes, make him look like a fool. I’ve done it and it was glorious!
Was this incident really worth a man being fired from his job?
I am a woman with a doctorate in one of the most male-dominated, competitive, and highly paid health professions. I’ve seen it all, especially since I was a graduate student in 1970s. This could have been handled without getting H.R. involved.
Ooh, sorry you lost your job because some woman complained to HR. I guess it still stings.
Sounds like a fake AI story. Project engineers are almost certainly salaried employees. Somebody who is getting paid a salary isn't doing any job for "free".
For some reason the supposed "project engineer" refused to do a simpler job which is often part of the responsibilities of an engineer on a team. What's wrong with taking notes?
The story reeks of AI fakeness.
Exactly what I would have done. If a male (or female) boss asked me to take notes because "women are best at it," I might smile and share a little laugh with the boss. Then, I would use the note-taking to my advantage.
Today, people of both sexes are very sensitive - but, as far as I can tell, only in white-collar jobs. I really believe these people could never survive the low-wage jobs where the bosses scream and curse at the workers, and sometimes, the female bosses can be the toughest.
You sound like a typical liberal asswipe. False accusations and resorting to idiocy. You don’t know a damn thing about me. I never lost a job to anyone who ever complained about me. No one ever made a complaint. Don’t bother to reply, I’ll just ignore it.
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