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‘Defy His Orders…’: Democrat Lawmakers Shocking Directive To US Troops Exposed; Hegseth Erupts
Times of India ^ | 11/19/25 | Times of India

Posted on 11/19/2025 9:33:17 AM PST by DallasBiff

Six Democrat lawmakers released a viral video urging troops to “refuse illegal orders.” The clip, led by Sen. Elissa Slotkin, warns that “threats to the Constitution are at home.” Conservatives erupted, accusing Democrats of pushing the military to defy President Trump. War Secretary Pete Hegseth hit back instantly, dismissing the video as “Stage 4 TDS.” Democrats insist it’s about law, not politics, as they push bills to curb Trump’s war powers. The showdown has triggered a fierce debate on loyalty, legality and military obedience

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofindia.indiatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: democrats; incitement; insubordination; military; stage4tds; trump
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Looking at US media and they are very, very quiet about this act of sedition.
1 posted on 11/19/2025 9:33:17 AM PST by DallasBiff
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They seem to be very clever about this, by saying to not obey "illegal orders", but they are very vague about specifics. Just what might constitute an illegal order? They don't come out and say to disobey any specific order, but they are adamant about disobeying.

It's like they are encouraging sedition, but cloaking it in such a way that they are not culpable.

2 posted on 11/19/2025 9:37:11 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: DallasBiff

Sounds very INSURRECTIONY to me.......................


3 posted on 11/19/2025 9:38:12 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: DallasBiff

This is sedition! Take em to the wall!


4 posted on 11/19/2025 9:42:28 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: DallasBiff

This is sedition! Take em to the wall!


5 posted on 11/19/2025 9:42:37 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
It's like they are encouraging sedition, but cloaking it in such a way that they are not culpable.


6 posted on 11/19/2025 9:46:27 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: DallasBiff

People like Kelly and any others with former military service need to be court- martialed and all their military benefits withdrawn. First Amendment does not protect against insubordination or instigating sedition.


7 posted on 11/19/2025 9:47:39 AM PST by iontheball (, )
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To: DallasBiff

I agree that the sentiment behind this is seditious. But, they are telling the military to do something that is already built into the UCMJ-a duty to disobey unlawful orders. It would be difficult to prosecute any of them for saying this.


8 posted on 11/19/2025 9:49:00 AM PST by GMThrust
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It is sedition.

One (or more) military personnel actually take this as advice and act upon it, then it will go very poorly for said congresscritter.


9 posted on 11/19/2025 9:51:48 AM PST by greenbrier
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I remember taking that exact training some 40+ years ago. I wonder if they still get similar training today.


10 posted on 11/19/2025 9:54:36 AM PST by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: DallasBiff

If Democrats incite woke troops to expose themselves, that is a good thing. The corrupt soldiers can be weeded out before they cause more damage.


11 posted on 11/19/2025 9:55:41 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism. )
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It is extremely difficult to prove that something is an illegal order. If you fail, you get prison time.

It is terrible advice.

Unless you are defying an order to rape and pillage, you probably aren’t getting anywhere.


12 posted on 11/19/2025 9:56:16 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Correct.

Some weasel JAG officer has advised how to avoid a sedition charge.

They need to be pressed on exactly what orders they claim must be disobeyed, so sedition charges can be brought.


13 posted on 11/19/2025 9:56:50 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: DallasBiff

She needs to be removed from Congress ASAP.


14 posted on 11/19/2025 9:56:55 AM PST by vivenne (7Come to think of it. Fact)
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Every one of these Dems should be overrun with people demanding they give multiple examples of the illegal orders they are talking about.


15 posted on 11/19/2025 9:57:31 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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I agree that the sentiment behind this is seditious. But, they are telling the military to do something that is already built into the UCMJ-a duty to disobey unlawful orders. It would be difficult to prosecute any of them for saying this.

It is NOT “built in” to the UCMJ nor are the democrats cleverly disguising anything. The UCMJ states that orders are always deemed to be lawful and if there is to be a challenge to them, the person must follow a precise process after obeying those orders. Of course a military member could recognize a blatant order like “shoot these children on the spot” but that’s an implied response to such an order and the UCMJ is very clear on following your chain-of-command’s orders, THEN protesting them.
16 posted on 11/19/2025 10:02:42 AM PST by brent13a
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To: DallasBiff

“Times of India”?!


17 posted on 11/19/2025 10:02:51 AM PST by albie
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To: DallasBiff

Democrats are extremely upset because their Cartel money flow is being interrupted.


18 posted on 11/19/2025 10:04:22 AM PST by PTBAA
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IMO this won't work on active duty troops. They are more serious about their missions and their careers.

This is oriented towards the National Guard troops who are more likely to jump the shark over politics.

19 posted on 11/19/2025 10:05:54 AM PST by pfflier
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Okay, so the Times of India reporting on this but i don’t remember seeing anything about this on the local or national news. Interesting. Anyway, these congressgrifters are true scum to be promoting this, but, in reality the UCMJ requires service members to refuse unlawful orders. It’s a hateful thing for congressgrifters to promote but its probably not actionable. Just my $.02.


20 posted on 11/19/2025 10:06:27 AM PST by Afterguard (Deplorable, garbage me. Trump is a threat to bureaucracy.)
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