Posted on 11/16/2025 6:27:29 AM PST by MtnClimber
The potential for a military clash between Turkey and Israel is growing. There are several colliding points, and each one of them has the potential to become a full-scale war, despite mechanisms designed to avoid conflict.
The most obvious is the Syrian front. Reports indicate that Turkey plans to help Syria’s transitional government develop a military force of approximately 200,000 personnel (approximately 10–15 divisions). Turkey has assumed the role of protector of Syria’s president, Ahmed al-Sharaa (al-Jolani, his nom de guerre). Israel, for its part, has assumed the role of protector of the Druze minority in southwestern Syria, an area that Israel seeks to demilitarize. The establishment of Turkish army and air force bases throughout Syria might be the next step. Should al-Sharaa, with Turkey’s support, seek to forcibly subjugate the Druze or perhaps even the Kurds, clashes between Israel and al-Sharaa’s Turkish overlords would be inevitable.
Another point of contention between Turkey and Israel will likely be Gaza. Israel is adamantly opposed to Turkey being part of the Gaza International Stabilization Force (ISF), not to mention having Turkish troops next to Israel’s borders. Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s affinity toward the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, with whom he shares the Muslim Brotherhood ideology, would, in all likelihood, not force Hamas to disarm and carry out its expulsion from Gaza. Erdoğan is hoping to mobilize all Palestinian factions against Israel and would do everything possible to keep Hamas armed and in control of Gaza. Erdoğan’s positions are religious as well as geopolitical imperatives that he hopes will weaken the Jewish state, if not destroy it outright.
The Mediterranean Sea is another area of disputation between Israel and Turkey. The alliance among Cyprus, Greece, and Israel, which establishes defined territorial boundaries for oil and gas exploration, does not sit well with
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Really?
“Moreover, Turkey is a member of NATO and has one of the group’s more potent militaries.”
That puts an interesting spin on things. NATO is under no obligation to come to a member’s aid if that member starts a war.
But in the very, very unlikely event that Israel strikes Turkey first…
🤔
How did we get here?
The Ottomans shouldn’t be in NATO to begin with.
He went to the White House last week.
So if that's the case, then the Syrian Strongman is a realist but time will tell.
It usually backfires when the CIA intervenes in a foreign country.
In Iran we backed the Shah only to have him overthrown by Islamic Fundamentalists decades later.
Turkey needs to get out of Cyprus.
The current head of Syria is ISIS. He was invited to the White House. Strange times.
Turkey is critical to ‘peace’ in the region President Trump friends with President Erdogan.
Tom Barrack Ambassador for the POTUS and old buddy of Jeffrey Who?
Turkey is critical to ‘peace’ in the region President Trump friends with President Erdogan.
Tom Barrack Ambassador for the POTUS and old buddy of Jeffrey Who?
When the Soviet Union existed they were the only NATO country that actually shared a border with same and Turkey's location provided great opportunities for listening posts etc as well as missiles. Incirlik was / is a great location for an air base. But Erdogan has been increasingly taking Turkey away from NATO.... There is no current rationale for its continuing membership.
[That puts an interesting spin on things. NATO is under no obligation to come to a member’s aid if that member starts a war.
But in the very, very unlikely event that Israel strikes Turkey first…
🤔]
If the US had done a 9/11 on Afghanistan, and the Afghans struck back with a similar atrocity, it’s unclear that NATO would have shown up for the war. It certainly never did for Europe’s colonial wars, and was absent, under the NATO flag, in both Korea and Vietnam.
Turkey was in it to weaken Russia, so as to facilitate the new Ottoman Empire.
Everyone here is right.
What a cluster.
The Ottomans are the real “Settler Colonialists”. Istanbul should be Constantinople again.
Eventually Turkey and Russia will be allies, the question is who will be the lead dog?
Until Carter switched that backing to Khomeini and the islamists.
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has been spoiling for an open conflict with Israel ever since he has risen to power in Turkey. A very uncertain friend of the West, he really has in mind the restoration of the Ottoman Empire. He just could never make himself an ally of the Islamic Republic of Iran in any way, shape, form, or manner.
The enemy of my enemy can very well also be an enemy. This is the Middle East. Jealousies and blind prejudice run deep.
I guess that's one way to put it.
We put the guy into office. We didn't like who the Iranian people actually elected (because he became hostile to British oil interests), so the CIA and MI6 instigated a coup that removed the elected official; we then put our puppet into place.
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