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The Garden Thread - November, 2025
November 1, 2025 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 11/01/2025 5:46:00 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The MONTHLY Gardening Thread is a gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to/removed from our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a MONTH Ping List, but we DO post to the thread all throughout the month. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Education; Food; Gardening
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

We are very fortunate to have a generational family run meat market nearby (slaughterhouse in the back). They process a lot of local animals, also 4H and FFA from the fairs.
Been shopping there for over 30 years.
Tried to follow your but nothing comes up. I did find a youtube channel. I am not Ukranian, half Serbian half Polish. family focus on more pastries than breads.
The last couple of years I have made tallow out of the beef suet. Great stuff.


221 posted on 11/09/2025 3:20:28 PM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

My dad’s favorite pie was mincemeat. His mom made it with meat. I never had the opportunity to taste hers, but I made mincemeat with venison for dad’s birthday many years ago. Mom would buy the None Such brand of mincemeat to make dad a pie for his birthday - it’s gotten expensive & hard to find in local stores.

I will probably make mincemeat (no meat) over the holidays - the pudding recipe looks interesting so I might give it a try - thanks!


222 posted on 11/09/2025 3:42:41 PM PST by Qiviut (A Mighty Fortress: “...the body they may kill. God’s truth abideth still. His kingdom is forever")
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To: Paul R.

That sounds terrific! We should compare notes after winter and see how each of did. I hope all those blossoms become tomatoes. Nothing tastes better than stuff you grow yourself.


223 posted on 11/09/2025 3:53:27 PM PST by AFB-XYZ (( We have two options: 1. Stand up, or 2. Bend over))
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To: MomwithHope
Mom w. h.

Sorry, mis-remembered!

There is or was a fair sized Ukrainian population in nearby Kansas City. KS (And Russians in Western KS).

Perhaps a better link to a better mincemeat recipe!

Spruce Eats Homemade Mincemeat

I think that the USDA has been trying to eliminate small local butchers which is a shame.

224 posted on 11/09/2025 5:08:18 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

So far so good on our place. They have always been federally inspected too.


225 posted on 11/09/2025 5:13:31 PM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Qiviut
NoneSuch brand is what my mother used for her pies, that and pecan pie at Christmas or at Thanksgiving.

That quick pudding....Give it a try first small batch to see how it turns out, I have not tried it!

There are better Plum Pudding recipes out there but they involve things like water baths and soaking the pudding in brandy for a month in preparation for Christmas almost like a fruit cake! (I made a steamed version for a church Christmas Festival 7 or 8 years ago.)

At home it was fun to douse the pudding with warm brandy, turn out the lights, and set the thing on fire!

226 posted on 11/09/2025 5:33:44 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
There is Stew and the dogs and cats, but I know that they aren't really the same!

Happy Cow races for pumpkins!

227 posted on 11/09/2025 6:33:36 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Qiviut; FRiends

None Such must’ve been THE mincemeat brand back in the day. To my recollection, Mom only made MM pie a time or two during the holidays, and only when some of her siblings were visiting. I never cared for it, but that’s neither here nor there.

I am torn between my two favorite pies at Thanksgiving, pecan and apple. My daughter LOVES pumpkin pie, so we will see what happens this year.

We had a lovely FaceTime call with her and her hubby today. She looks so beautiful, but funny thing, she doesn’t think she is. Not that that matters, but it’s so funny how people view themselves, and how others look at the same person and have such a differing perspective. Her pregnancy is going on without too much drama any more, but Wednesday is her 2 week mark from her due date. All we pray for is a healthy a delivery for both her and the baby.

We talked at length about all the prep and all the differences between deliveries, back then and now. The medical version is so different now than when I had my children. I’m not sure what was wrong with the way things were when we had kids, but apparently, little of that is the way they do it now. Like I said, all I care about is healthy mama and baby (daddy too but he’s on the periphery).

Thanksgiving dinner was only slightly discussed. A turkey is on order, and that’s about it. We are very good at flying by the seat of our pants, so we will make do with whatever we have. We may have Thanksgiving Dinner that day, or two days later if need be. It will indeed be a blessed Thanksgiving!

Pray that the shutdown doesn’t affect our air travel out there (or back). That’s another thing beyond our control that I’m thinking about. Air travel isn’t fun anymore, and if there are cancellations, I’m thinking travelers will be stressed, and not on their best behavior.


228 posted on 11/09/2025 6:39:13 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

Cow Chronicles:

The farmer has been checking the fields every day. Yesterday morning, he stopped along a grove of cedars & got out of his pickup. I could tell there was a cow milling around, but the site was just over a rise so I couldn’t see down to the ground & I also did not have my binoculars. He was doing something at ground level, then put down the tailgate & put something in the pickup bed. As he drove away, the cow followed for a distance, then went back to the original spot where the farmer had stopped. A little while later, she went about half the distance to the main herd, then back to ‘the spot’ again.

Sadly, it appears she had a calf & it did not survive. This would be the first calf of this calving season. The herd has been expanded since last year so I am surmising that some heifers were added (cows who have not had a calf). Being smaller & not fully mature themselves, they tend to have their first calf earlier & encounter more difficulties during the birthing process.

Last year, the calfs started coming the week of Thanksgiving so it won’t be long before there will be a lot more “action” across the road. The calfs are so small at first, they look like large black labs, hanging close to their mamas.

The farmer also started feeding round bales Nov. 1. The cows weren’t super interested in the first bale or two, but with cold weather & a heavy frost, they’re spending more time on the hay rollouts.

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Weather: turning sharply colder today & overnight. Windy enough to have a wind chill factor. Also mentioned is ‘snow’. If we get any, it should be a ‘light blanket’. Daytime temps will be above freezing, so it shouldn’t last long. I will definitely have to turn on the space heater in the shop bathroom tonight so the water pipes don’t freeze.


229 posted on 11/10/2025 4:47:05 AM PST by Qiviut (A Mighty Fortress: “...the body they may kill. God’s truth abideth still. His kingdom is forever")
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To: MomwithHope

Good advice. I know the Butcher at our tiny grocery store, so I can ask him if he can get me a good deal. I’ll bet he can!


230 posted on 11/10/2025 5:46:50 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: TheConservativeParty

‘Strawberry Vanilla’ is a great variety - right up there with ‘Limelight’ on my list of favorites. I had to leave a lot of Hydrangea behind at my other farm - still need to get some planted out here...10 years later, LOL!


231 posted on 11/10/2025 5:49:29 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Liz

How pretty is THAT!? Still on the hunt for a REAL Milk Glass cake stand. :)


232 posted on 11/10/2025 6:03:46 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I have one actual pumpkin left - on the porch for decor. It’s a toss up to see if Stew or the hens get it. ;)


233 posted on 11/10/2025 6:09:11 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
There are several on EBAY in the $30+ price range

Fenton Pedestal Cake Plate Stand Milk Glass Ruffled Hobnail 12.5 x 5.5 Vintage

Pre-Owned $44.99 or Best Offer +$25.10 delivery Located in United States 16 watchers lvrealestate4u 98.4% positive (1.

234 posted on 11/10/2025 6:09:40 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) QuidQuid Nominatur Fabricatur)
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To: bert
Ooo! Thank you! If I don't find one locally, I'll use eBay. We have two Antique/Junk stores that I haunt - 'Junk and Disorderly' and 'Crazy Frank's.' Both are always full to the brim with all sorts of fun stuff.

The HUNT is half the fun of it. :)

I have a small collection of Milk Glass, some of which was my Grandma Edith's. She loved the stuff. My favorite piece is a milk glass covered candy dish in the shape of a chicken, and I have 6 miniatures that were hers in that same vein, all chickens or rabbits. So cute!

Westmoreland, Fenton, or Imperial Glass are the brands I look for, for the 'good' stuff.


235 posted on 11/10/2025 6:21:16 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Still on the hunt for a REAL Milk Glass cake stand.


Will cost you a pretty penny.............when you find it.


236 posted on 11/10/2025 6:31:36 AM PST by Liz ("Socialism is a wonderful idea. It's just that in practice it's been disastrous." —Thomas Sowell.)
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To: Liz

I’ve got a few pennies saved. ;) And if I find it locally, no shipping!

I kind of like the jade green glass cake stands, too.


237 posted on 11/10/2025 6:35:21 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Pretty.

238 posted on 11/10/2025 6:41:06 AM PST by Liz ("Socialism is a wonderful idea. It's just that in practice it's been disastrous." —Thomas Sowell.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

My mom loved milk glass and had many pieces which I wound up with. Still have a few. No cake stand though.


239 posted on 11/10/2025 6:43:09 AM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I like those diced tomatoes for soups too. I add then at the very end before serving so the tomatos are warm but still fresh taking. Great with chili.


240 posted on 11/10/2025 6:44:58 AM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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