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EU Is Going to Have Their NATO War Against Russia – With or Without President Trump – And It Gets Worse
The Last Refuge ^

Posted on 10/23/2025 11:40:34 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe

Let’s put the events of the last 72 hours into context.

On Monday and Tuesday, Russian oil refineries in NATO countries Hungary and Romania suddenly, and simultaneously, have mysterious explosions and catastrophic fires {citation}}. On Wednesday, NATO head Mark Rutte comes to visit President Trump in the White House, and at the end of the day, the same Russian company, Lukoil, whose refinery exploded in Romania, suddenly becomes sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury. These events are not disconnected.

President Trump then disputes a Wall Street Journal report, further saying he did not give approval, nor does he know where NATO long-range missiles are coming from that were launched from Ukraine into Russia.

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President Trump saying, “wherever they may come from,” is alarming in itself. We all know that British PM Starmer, French President Macron, German Chancellor Merz and NATO Secretary Mark Rutte are all in alignment to push NATO into a direct conflict with Russia using the non-NATO state of Ukraine to do it.

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To: Tench_Coxe
"Trump is a smart guy. I think the Euros think they can play him."

They should know better than that by now, but then Europe was never smart to begin with. They never learned the lessons of two World Wars.

41 posted on 10/23/2025 12:57:46 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: PIF

“Hungary and Romania were both processing Russian oil.”

So then it wasn’t the Russians attacking Hungary and Romania. Perhaps the UK?


42 posted on 10/23/2025 1:00:02 PM PDT by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

If Trump cannot see what’s happening, he is unfit for the office.

Therefore I believe the odds are this is his policy.

And it’s a stupid policy.


43 posted on 10/23/2025 1:02:33 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: jpl

“So now he’s starting to get more of the “big stick” approach.”

Yeah, but why? What so important?


44 posted on 10/23/2025 1:04:33 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: PIF
And yes Russia took out Nordstream

You really haven't caught up have you? It was a Ukrainian.

45 posted on 10/23/2025 1:05:34 PM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: Mouton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-135_anti-ballistic_missile_system

This one may not be in operation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-235_anti-ballistic_missile_system

Don’t expect nuclear war in winter.

The Russians will evacuate their cities first. That’s not really practical in a Russian winter.


46 posted on 10/23/2025 1:06:08 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

First, what you said is dubious. Second, we have seen how good Russia AD is in Syria and Iran.


47 posted on 10/23/2025 1:06:35 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: McGruff

One is sufficient. Like like the Domino’s box painted on a Minuteman blast door said, “Delivery in 30 minutes or less. If not, your second one is free!”


48 posted on 10/23/2025 1:08:11 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Brian Griffin

They rob us blind of our tech already. Nothing would be better than events that would cause us to sever all trade with China and India.


49 posted on 10/23/2025 1:13:17 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Tench_Coxe

Russia is not capable of winning the war due to lack of manpower and weapons, a faltering economy, and financial decline. Most likely, Putin will be ousted, or the Russian army will collapse like it did in WW I.


50 posted on 10/23/2025 1:13:42 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Lockbox

“Wars are easy to start and difficult to end.”

Yes, Putin started this war in February 2022 thinking that he would grab Ukraine in weeks. But that was his hubris.

And now, 3.5 years later and Putin can’t put an end to the eaf he started


51 posted on 10/23/2025 1:13:51 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Napoleon wanted to teach the Tsar a lesson. And they did self immolate Moscow.

The Russians were lasted conquered in 1610


52 posted on 10/23/2025 1:15:14 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: jimwatx

Muscowy started the invasion in 2014


53 posted on 10/23/2025 1:15:51 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Sirius Lee
It was a Ukrainian.

Sure. 5 Ukrainians in a rented yacht carried enough dive equipment and explosives to plant several massive charges 100 meters underwater.

And I will save money on flights by flapping my arms real hard.

German intel services were known to be thoroughly penetrated by the KGB. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians planted the "evidence." Even the Italian appeals court has demanded the lower court re-examine the evidence and the warrant before rendering their Ukrainian detainee.

54 posted on 10/23/2025 1:18:04 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Cronos
Halloween is coming up. Want to read a horror story?
Read about the Grande Armée's retreat from Moscow.

55 posted on 10/23/2025 1:18:33 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: mass55th

Technically what we call world war 1 and 2 were the same war with a 20 year pause in between. If the entente in 1918 had invaded imperial Germany in 1919 then no stan in the back and no nazis.

And there were two world wars before 1914: the war of Spanish succession (the French and indian war was the north american chunk of it and there were wars in Asia) and the Napoleonic wars were fought in 3 continents


56 posted on 10/23/2025 1:21:14 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: pierrem15
I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians planted the "evidence."

Sure, Putz and his orcs "planted evidence" after they cut off one of their main sources of revenue. Surrrrre...

This is why I try to avoid these Yook/Orc threads. The regulars (both sides) on them are retards.

57 posted on 10/23/2025 1:23:01 PM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Its not just an EU war…its globalists and Deep State vs Trump.

I no longer fully believe Trump is not being misinformed and played


58 posted on 10/23/2025 1:32:16 PM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: Sirius Lee
Germany had already stopped delivery of gas and had started legal proceeding to seize Russia's Gazprom subsidiary and the pipelines the week before they blew up.

Maybe the pro-Russian morons should mind the details.

59 posted on 10/23/2025 1:34:42 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Cronos
"Technically what we call world war 1 and 2 were the same war with a 20 year pause in between."

Hardly. There were no Geneva Convention treaties in WWI. People in WWI weren't thrown out of their jobs because of their religion, nor were they rounded up and put in cattle cars, shot on arrival at a concentration camp, or allowed to starve to death working for the Reich. Nor was the property, wealth and art of people stolen from them in WWI. Germany held elections in WWI, but not in WWII. Germany wasn't divided after WWI, although it probably should have been, then maybe Hitler would have never come to power.

60 posted on 10/23/2025 1:35:57 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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