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EU Is Going to Have Their NATO War Against Russia – With or Without President Trump – And It Gets Worse
The Last Refuge ^

Posted on 10/23/2025 11:40:34 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe

Let’s put the events of the last 72 hours into context.

On Monday and Tuesday, Russian oil refineries in NATO countries Hungary and Romania suddenly, and simultaneously, have mysterious explosions and catastrophic fires {citation}}. On Wednesday, NATO head Mark Rutte comes to visit President Trump in the White House, and at the end of the day, the same Russian company, Lukoil, whose refinery exploded in Romania, suddenly becomes sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury. These events are not disconnected.

President Trump then disputes a Wall Street Journal report, further saying he did not give approval, nor does he know where NATO long-range missiles are coming from that were launched from Ukraine into Russia.

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President Trump saying, “wherever they may come from,” is alarming in itself. We all know that British PM Starmer, French President Macron, German Chancellor Merz and NATO Secretary Mark Rutte are all in alignment to push NATO into a direct conflict with Russia using the non-NATO state of Ukraine to do it.

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To: Tench_Coxe

So we are talking about the USA selling weapons we don’t have to EU for money they don’t have?

The war is over - only the dying continues in order to save face.


21 posted on 10/23/2025 12:10:00 PM PDT by paulk ( If one fails to learn self discipline, Don't worry; there will be others to boss you around. -kps )
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To: PGR88

But it doesn’t make sense that Trump would suddenly flip from being intensely vigilant and outspoken about the corruption in the intelligence agencies and advisors to suddenly being susceptible to this corruption.

What I was asking for was something that makes sense.


22 posted on 10/23/2025 12:14:55 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: PGR88
who is providing intel to Trump

The US is still the largest and best intel gathering group in the world. From boots on the ground to the best spy sats in the sky to the ability to intercept all forms of radio and digital transmissions, there is none better than the US military. Trump probably has the intel hours before NATO puts on their pants.
23 posted on 10/23/2025 12:19:10 PM PDT by The Louiswu (USA FIRST...USA FOREVER)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Agree.


24 posted on 10/23/2025 12:21:45 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: Lockbox
Bomb it with what? Their air force certainly can't reach any NATO capital except on the Eastern flank. And even then it's dubious they'd get through NATO air defense & air forces. The Russians could use missiles, but conventional warheads won't do much against large cities. They won't nuke Paris or London because they'll get nuked in response.

Any attack also risks direct NATO intervention in Ukraine and possible loss of Kaliningrad.

25 posted on 10/23/2025 12:25:20 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: PGR88

No one is claiming responsibly - so do not assume anything. And yes Russia took out Nordstream which was of no value to them anyway.

NATO has nothing to do with Hungary and Romania, so quit drumming up false assumptions then making conclusions based on those assumptions.


26 posted on 10/23/2025 12:25:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

LOL Both Paris and London have nukes: they could kiss goodbye to Moscow and St. Petersburg.


27 posted on 10/23/2025 12:26:12 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Tench_Coxe

“using an estimated $300 billion in frozen Russian assets”

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28 posted on 10/23/2025 12:29:53 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: PIF
Ukraine took out Nordstream.

29 posted on 10/23/2025 12:34:59 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: pierrem15
Paris and London have nukes: they could kiss goodbye to Moscow and St. Petersburg.

You want to play who has more nukes with Russia?

30 posted on 10/23/2025 12:36:18 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: PGR88

Have these NATO boobs gamed out how the European Muslims will participate ?


31 posted on 10/23/2025 12:36:35 PM PDT by jcon40 (Leftists are usually obnoxious Bullies)
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To: Texas Eagle

“they’ve imported millions of fighting age young men”

The “migrants” are there to take the European women; all the problematic young European men will be rounded up and shipped off to be immolated by TOS flamethrowers or blown up by Lancet drones.


32 posted on 10/23/2025 12:37:05 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: PIF
And yes Russia took out Nordstream which was of no value to them anyway.

Does it ever make you feel lonely taking such asinine positions in public? why do you do it?

Even the British, Poles and Germans are not claiming the Russians blew up their own pipeline. They are accusing rogue Ukrainian colonels of doing it - with a rented sailboat. LOL.

33 posted on 10/23/2025 12:37:31 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: pierrem15

“they could kiss goodbye to Moscow and St. Petersburg”

ABM systems protect NYC and DC, and those cities.

Anti-missile systems are a top Russian R&D priority. Russian troops are getting paid, and so are Russian scientists.

Even minor Russian cities will get high-quality anti-missile systems.


34 posted on 10/23/2025 12:38:41 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: PIF
NATO has nothing to do with Hungary and Romania,

LOL - the are members in NATO.

35 posted on 10/23/2025 12:39:25 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Tench_Coxe

I don’t think Trump wants to be in a hot war against Russia. Yet I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that all other parties do, and that they intend to force Trump’s hand or go around him somehow. Hegseth and Trump must put a stop to it.


36 posted on 10/23/2025 12:44:14 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Infidels of the world unite against the evil that is Islam.)
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To: The Louiswu
Trump probably has the intel hours before NATO puts on their pants.

Correction. Trump has the intel the many bureaucratic layers of 17 intel-agencies want him to see.

37 posted on 10/23/2025 12:48:16 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: jimwatx

“US will be drawn in by Article 5”

Don,

The wife wants to know when my pay will be deposited.

The airline says it wants to get paid before the plane takes off for Europe.

Love You,
Pvt. Loyal


38 posted on 10/23/2025 12:49:12 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

ABM systems protect NYC and DC, and those cities.

What systems are they exactly. There used to be a last ditch nuke armed Nike attempt to render incoming warheads inactive, wishfully, but I know of no such system today aside from a few launchers in the Pacific.


39 posted on 10/23/2025 12:50:03 PM PDT by Mouton (There is a new sheriff and deputy in town now!)
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To: Tench_Coxe

WIKI

The U.S. foreign correspondent William Shirer was assigned to Berlin at the onset of World War II. In his diary entries on 9 and 10 September 1939, he wrote about the puzzlement felt by many:

Apparently the war in Poland is all but over....Britain and France have done nothing on the western front to relieve the tremendous pressure on Poland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoney_War


40 posted on 10/23/2025 12:55:20 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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