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New Poll Shows Where Hypothetical Newsom-Vance Matchup Stands
Trending Politics ^ | 9/05/2025 | Michael

Posted on 09/06/2025 8:04:44 AM PDT by Signalman

A new poll conducted by Leger360 between August 29 and 31, 2025, is causing controversy in the world of U.S. politics, as it projects that California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, is the frontrunner for the 2028 presidential election.

The results of the survey, which were shared on social media, pitted Newsom against potential GOP candidates, including Vice President JD Vance, former President Donald Trump, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. The California governor narrowly leads the president by a score of 48 percent to 44 percent, 47 percent to Vance’s 46 percent, and 49 percent to Rubio’s 44 percent.

The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percent, which makes these potential races extremely close. Many conservatives are already greeting the survey’s results with a healthy dose of skepticism, primarily due to the methodology employed, as well as the context of Newsom’s political record and recent actions.

Some have pointed out red flags that raise questions about the credibility of the poll. They note that Leger360’s track record, which was the subject of a study completed by the “Journal of Election Studies,” found that Leger overestimated Democratic support by a total of 5 percent. According to the study, this was the result of oversampling urban voters in online panels.

Experts point out that if the current numbers are adjusted to factor this in, Trump’s support could rise to 49 percent, Vance’s to 51 percent, and Rubio’s to 49 percent, which changes the entire narrative and some of the conclusions drawn from the poll.

As MAGA supporters have all but crowned Vance as the man to take over the mantel of leadership for the movement, it’s likely that, with all of the information taken into context, the biggest threat to Newsom’s potential campaign is the vice president.

Newsom recently attempted to reach out to popular conservative podcast host and founder of Talking Point USA, Charlie Kirk, which signals a shift to broaden support. However, many on the political right believe the move is opportunistic, especially given his extreme left-wing policies, like climate regulations, which have strained his state’s economy.

Conservative commentator Arthur Morgan has waved off the results of the Leger survey as nothing more than Democratic propaganda. Others are also viewing them with caution, specifically citing the above-mentioned bias of the company that produced the poll.


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To: Biblebelter

“In my view, there is not an ounce of populism in either Vance or Rubio.”
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Yes Trump won as a populist. It’s the independents who decide elections which is why an “old school” conservative like DeSantis is out of the picture. The country has changed in many ways and I no longer see a conventional conservatives as a viable candidate for President. That might not sit well with some here but I’m afraid that’s the reality.


41 posted on 09/06/2025 9:29:00 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Biblebelter
But like Bush, Vance is primarily a politician and GOP politicians is what the Left eats for breakfast. Like Obammy ate Mittens for breakfast? Like Obammy ate Mittens for breakfast?

Like the GOP RINO's joining the Dems for breakfast Since Reagan and before Trump.

And, please, not another female who turns out to be unpredictable, irrational, and unaccountable and almost certainly will acquiesce to the Left's relentless attacks.

42 posted on 09/06/2025 9:31:52 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: usafa92

yup- i mean even the people in Kalifornia hate him....


43 posted on 09/06/2025 9:32:07 AM PDT by God luvs America
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To: jimwatx
Donald Trump Jr. introduced Vance to his father...nothing to do with Theil.

No reason a Republican can't win 2028. They should have run Newsome instead of Kamilla.

44 posted on 09/06/2025 9:32:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Signalman

As long as there is gerrymandering, demonicRATS will stand a chance.


45 posted on 09/06/2025 9:34:20 AM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: Sacajaweau

Thiel gave Vance $15 million in his Senate election. That pretty much secured the election for Vance. Pretending Vance is not in cahoots with him and his plans is ridiculous.


46 posted on 09/06/2025 9:38:05 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Signalman

BS. No one wants Newsome except Newsome.
Vance would clean his clock.


47 posted on 09/06/2025 9:39:20 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: HIDEK6

Both are important, but untaught.


48 posted on 09/06/2025 9:39:23 AM PDT by econjack
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To: Jim W N

I like Vivek, unlike many here at FR.

Hoping he is elected as Ohio governor.


49 posted on 09/06/2025 9:40:26 AM PDT by Reddy (BO stinks)
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To: econjack

Yeah- just imagine hair gel Newscum vs Vance in a fair debate. It would be even more lopsided than the Brandon/Trump debate. Vance would wipe the floor with hair gel!


50 posted on 09/06/2025 9:44:40 AM PDT by Reddy (BO stinks)
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To: Signalman

YOU CAN POLL GROUND GOPHERS TO GET THE ANSWERS YOU WISH FOR.


51 posted on 09/06/2025 9:44:53 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Jim W N

I would never vote in a primary for the biggest Republican lover of HB1 visas.


52 posted on 09/06/2025 9:45:01 AM PDT by CaptainK ("No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up” )
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To: jimwatx

Yeah- there is a BIG H1B problem in this country and I am disappointed that Trump hasn’t addressed it (neither has Vivek).


53 posted on 09/06/2025 9:46:14 AM PDT by Reddy (BO stinks)
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To: Signalman

Leger360 poll?
Absurd!

It just clearly demonstrates that the American Communist Party is starting its march back to the WH early...


54 posted on 09/06/2025 9:47:37 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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To: Reddy

The only thing that will keep America’s Free Constitutional Republic from disappearing is dismantling the $3+ trillion, 80%+ unconstitutional portion of the federal gov’t.

Vivek can’t do that as Ohio Governor.


55 posted on 09/06/2025 9:49:19 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Signalman

That would last until the first debate. Vance is quite capable of handling Newsom. In addition, the ads write themselves...show Newsom’s California. The homeless in the streets, the groups storming stores and stealing, the high taxes, the fires. He’s the 2028 version of Mike Dukakis.


56 posted on 09/06/2025 9:50:30 AM PDT by mak5
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To: Reddy

Well I wouldn’t count on Vance addressing that issue either considering he has an Indian wife. I don’t want to sound overly racist here and think people should be judged as individuals but Indians strike me as overly nepotistic and not a good cultural fit for America if there’s too many of them. We already have enough of them here as it is.


57 posted on 09/06/2025 9:51:36 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: j.havenfarm

The poll might be accurate, but I have trouble believing it. Remember, many Americans probably don’t realize who Newsome is or his record in CA. In a real election, these would become issues.


58 posted on 09/06/2025 9:51:47 AM PDT by rbg81 (=)
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To: Jim W N

Governor, then president. :). I believe Vivek will work to dismantle the deep state swamp. He is for a limited, small fedgov.

I think Vance will get the R nomination, so he needs to put Vivek into a position that will allow him to do just that.


59 posted on 09/06/2025 9:52:29 AM PDT by Reddy (BO stinks)
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To: jimwatx

I hear you and agree.


60 posted on 09/06/2025 9:53:19 AM PDT by Reddy (BO stinks)
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