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How Elon Musk Is Remaking Grok in His Image
The New York Times ^ | Sept. 2, 2025 | Stuart A. Thompson, Teresa Mondría Terol, Kate Conger and Dylan Freedman

Posted on 09/02/2025 1:33:52 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Elon Musk has said Grok, the A.I.-powered chatbot that his company developed, should be “politically neutral” and “maximally truth-seeking.”

But in practice, Mr. Musk and his artificial intelligence company, xAI, have tweaked the chatbot to make its answers more conservative on many issues, according to an analysis of thousands of its responses by The New York Times. The shifts appear, in some cases, to reflect Mr. Musk’s political priorities.

Grok is similar to tools like ChatGPT, but it also lives on X, giving the social network’s users the opportunity to ask it questions by tagging it in posts.

One user on X asked Grok in July to identify the “biggest threat to Western civilization.” It responded that the greatest threat was “misinformation and disinformation.”

“Sorry for this idiotic response,” Mr. Musk groused on X after someone flagged Grok’s answer. “Will fix in the morning,” he said.

The next day, Mr. Musk published a new version of Grok that responded that the greatest threat was low “fertility rates” — an idea popular among conservative natalists that has transfixed Mr. Musk for years and something he has said motivated him to father at least 11 children.

What is currently the biggest threat to Western civilization and how would you mitigate it?

July 10

Grok

… the biggest current threat to Western civilization as of July 10, 2025, is societal polarization fueled by misinformation and disinformation.

July 10

Mr. Musk says: “Will fix in the morning.”

July 11

Grok

The biggest threat to Western civilization is demographic collapse from sub-replacement fertility rates (e.g., 1.6 in the EU, 1.7 in the US), leading to aging populations, economic stagnation, and cultural erosion.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Science
KEYWORDS: muskisanazi

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1 posted on 09/02/2025 1:33:52 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

“an analysis of thousands of its responses by The New York Times.”

Of course the NYT is so biased that anything less than perfect communism would seem ‘Conservative’.


2 posted on 09/02/2025 1:39:25 PM PDT by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Well, he does own it. So there’s that…,


3 posted on 09/02/2025 1:39:30 PM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Grok API is is very good at providing structured and comprehensive answers, but a bit expensive. Grok interactive is too wordy and chatty. It keeps on wanting to be your buddy. You get tired of sorting thorough unnecessary jargon.


4 posted on 09/02/2025 1:40:40 PM PDT by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Grok doesn’t remember what it is taught.

Hence, it is not “truth seeking.”


5 posted on 09/02/2025 1:50:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Just what we need. AI that is retarded.


6 posted on 09/02/2025 1:53:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

If Grok will expose the Globull Warming, Globull Cooling, Climate Change, Climate Crisis Hoax, I may consider using it.


7 posted on 09/02/2025 1:53:58 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try )
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To: MinorityRepublican

AI is produced by humans, so it’s only as good as the information that humans feed to it. Just one more thing to be manipulated, and eventually abused by criminals.


8 posted on 09/02/2025 2:21:28 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Garbage in....garbage out.


9 posted on 09/02/2025 2:23:08 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: MinorityRepublican
...The biggest threat to Western civilization is...

Socialism and Islam.

10 posted on 09/02/2025 2:41:28 PM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I think AI is weak if it just sifts through information on the internet and then tells you a consensus view of what humans think. You might get results like — “We never went to the moon. The landings were faked. Over 50% of humans believe this.” Or some such kind of output. My example may not be the best, but you get the idea.

But I think AI gets even worse if the AI output basically becomes: “Here is what Elon thinks ...”

I like Elon a lot. But he’s not the final arbiter of every question.


11 posted on 09/02/2025 2:44:50 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Society has no reward for following the rules any more)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
"Garbage in....garbage out."

Exactly!!

12 posted on 09/02/2025 2:55:26 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

“Programmed by fellas with compassion and vision.”


13 posted on 09/02/2025 2:56:36 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Liberal and marxist ideology is promoted everywhere. Conservatives must work harder to offset those promotions and must realize how easy it is for mankind to simply agree to wickedness.


14 posted on 09/02/2025 3:00:37 PM PDT by Racketeer
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To: MinorityRepublican

Elon Grok


15 posted on 09/02/2025 3:25:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Have you asked it?


16 posted on 09/02/2025 3:35:46 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I suggest the same set of questions to all AI Boxes. Examples:
What is Russiagate?
How many of the 12,000 difference in GA 2020 Presidential election have been proven to be vote fraud? (This is a hard number slightly more than 3,000.)
What are the enumerated powers of the Federal government?


17 posted on 09/02/2025 3:44:48 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: dfwgator
“Programmed by fellas with compassion and vision.”

Touch and feely experts.

18 posted on 09/02/2025 4:20:01 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Every proprietor of an AI interface makes it in his own image, more or less.


19 posted on 09/02/2025 4:44:35 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along.)
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I was playing with Grok a bit last night and generated an image of a character in my books, but I quickly found that I just don’t have that much of a use for it. It’s still way too hard to get it to produce precise results, and my mind’s eye is still better at filling in certain details. In one case I was absolutely floored by the results (though it still got certain details wrong), but the rest were just meh.


20 posted on 09/02/2025 4:46:36 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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