Posted on 08/04/2025 11:59:36 AM PDT by null and void
FReeper Help Needed - 5,000 Year Project (vanity)
Yes, I’m serious. Yes, it really is a 5,000 year project. No, I’m not expecting to be around for the whole thing.
Available geological, isotopic and cultural evidence strongly suggests that the Earth goes through periodic disasters. We get a major disaster every 12,000 years with “minor” disasters in the midpoints at 6,000 years.
See the background video here (skip the starting ad and ignore the long expired fundraiser at the end) for information about the 6,000 year half cycle.
The last 6,000 year event was informally called the Noah event, but geological confirmation was then found in Tianchi China, and it is now formally called the Tianchi (or Tian Xi) event in keeping with first discovery place naming convention.
The next major disaster is expected 6,000 years after the Tianchi event, that’s about right now.
No matter what form the ‘final straw’ event takes, be it a solar micronova, a truly high mortality global pandemic, a world war, massive vulcanism, or whatever, it will wipe out enough talent that electrical power and communications worldwide cannot be maintained.
High tech civilization collapses.
Who or what is left? Since geological traces of named 12,000 year events go back 72,000 years, it’s reasonable to expect they’ve been occurring for a much longer time. We, as a species have survived them all. We’re pretty tough, some of us will survive the next one.
Please watch this short (1:45) AI promo video
Their descendants are the target audience of this project. When there are enough of them to spur the reinvention of a written language they will be able to recognize the contents as a message, and the learning tools in the archives will enable them to decipher it.
This only requirement from future discoverers, that they have the concept of a written language. The initial capsule will have a picture dictionary and a sounding board to make all 44 English phonemes.
Although we can’t stop the disaster, we can ameliorate some of the effects. We can aid the survivors’ descendants in recovering civilization. We can help them with a post global catastrophe civilization reboot with 30,000 books in a human readable format. Everything from smelting metals, to the horse collar and plow, to crop rotation, to soap and sanitation, to art and culture, to the scientific method, to simple machines, everything from grinding grain, cotton gin, saw mill, machine tools like drills, lathes, etc., all the way up to having a representative democracy and so much more!
It would be like Colonial America getting a time capsule from Atlantis!
How will we do it?
Please refer to the full patent here as I go through the steps and reasoning behind them:
The first thing you see is a pyramid. This is a little misleading, when we see a pyramid we think the Great Pyramid of Giza. The project’s pyramids are about as tall as a man, but there are hundreds, maybe a thousand of them.
I want them to have the ability to reason and to recognize falsehoods, have the spirit of adventure to know the founding documents of our culture, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bible, as well as the works of Shakespeare, and many other plays based on human nature, I want them to see themselves in a Greek tragedy. I want them to look up at the stars and wonder. I want them to read our fiction, know that it is fiction, and appreciate the authors’ imaginations and cultivate their own. I want them to instinctively help others where appropriate, to be good neighbors to all.
I want to jump start them to shave off centuries of avoidable diseases, soil depletion, grinding poverty and dark ages. I want them to practice sustainable agriculture, animal husbandry, industry and promote general well being.
I want them to have great dreams and accomplish great things.
I’ve got a clear picture of how to make an archive that will last 5,000 years. So why do I need FReeper help?
Lots of reasons.
Although I’ve worked for several start-ups, I don’t have the skills to start a start-up or run an organization, nor do I have the connections to woo suitable existing organizations. Some of the questions I have and skills needed include:
Help
(Laz’s update of an old Soviet propaganda poster, and with Free Republic, all things really are possible!)
Interested volunteers please provide contact info by FReepmail.
“The next major disaster is expected 6,000 years after the Tianchi event, that’s about right now.”
The Tianchi Event was 946 CE ....
My advice on this: Look at the Bible to understand the past and plan for the future.
The earth is not that old and life here is far too short to worry about. Plan for eternity. Get to know the God who made you, loves you, and has saved you. And do it today.
Vanishingly rare all my ping lists ping...
You mean I missed it?....................
This should be fun...
An archive that will last 5000 years?
First, build a giant pyramid...................
There are a number of events at that volcano. The one you refer to is one of them. the recently identified event was a magnetic reversal about 6,000 years ago.
Just to add to the confusion, there was also a magnetic excursion called the Tianchi excursion about 17,000.
I don't make up the names. I would have stuck with the Noah event!
I would like to be the first to welcome our new Gorilla Overlords.
Hail Apes!
Kent Brrrockman
Read Malachi, Chapter 4.
I can help you for the next 3,000 years but I have other obligations after that.
Now just a dang minute. I’ve been preparing for Epoch Of The Cockroaches for years and now you tell us it’s gonna be apes? Man, what a buzzkill...
Well, you're pretty close.
Actually Noah's flood was 5000 years while God's (re)creation was 6000 years ago.
The next big event which I believe will most likely happen by the end of this, the 21st Century, will be the surprising, astonishing, and utterly catastrophic Seven-Year Tribulation AKA Daniel's 70th Week, wherein the whole world will die except for a remnant of Israel hiding in the Jordanian mountains.
That horrific seven-year period of God's wrathful judgment upon the earth will end with the Second Coming and return to earth of Jesus Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords "with ten thousands of his saints" destroying the rest of the world who are waiting in the valley of Megiddo against him - "Armageddon."
Armageddon will be followed by the equally astonishing 1000 year reign of Christ as the Prince of Peace who will rule the nations with a rod of iron with his saints.
All of this is prophesied in detail in the Bible - the same Bible that accurately prophesied in detail the first coming of Jesus Christ as Savoir of the world.
Coming soon...but not quite yet...
Since I'm already signed up to announce and participate in all this other stuff, I probably won't have time to help you with your project which most likely will be swallowed up by all the rest of this anyway.
Dear Null,
The catastrophic weather events coincide with the Mikankovitch Cycles, which correspond with the planet’s progression through space and its proximity to other planets.
Ice core samples for 400,000 years show these happening ever 12K years or so.
Nothing will stop them.
I wish you luck.
So basically, a FOUNDATION.
Bookmarked
Note that The Bible is EXPLICITLY included in the archive as THE foundational document of our civilization.
Have you thought about using this as a starting point?
This gold aluminium cover was designed to protect the Voyager 1 and 2 "Sounds of Earth" gold-plated records from micrometeorite bombardment, but also serves a double purpose in providing the finder a key to playing the record. The explanatory diagram appears on both the inner and outer surfaces of the cover, as the outer diagram will be eroded in time. Flying aboard Voyagers 1 and 2 are identical "golden" records, carrying the story of Earth far into deep space. The 12 inch gold-plated copper discs contain greetings in 60 languages, samples of music from different cultures and eras, and natural and man-made sounds from Earth. They also contain electronic information that an advanced technological civilization could convert into diagrams and photographs. Currently, both Voyager probes are sailing adrift in the black sea of interplanetary space, flying towards the outmost border of our solar system.
[Personal Note: My dad led the program at GE to build the Radioisotope Thermal Generators that power the two Voyager spacecraft! RIP, dad. Well done!]
Dogs, cats living together.
In the event of a thermo nuclear war, the extreme heat anywhere near the epicenter of a blast would simply vaporize these things.
They will either need to be kept far, far away from a blast….or buried underground or water to avoid those blast furnace temps.
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