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Queen Victoria and John Brown WERE lovers: Channel 4 says it has uncovered 'extraordinary' new evidence of monarch's secret affair
UK Daily Mail ^ | July 12, 2025 | Sophie Carlin

Posted on 07/12/2025 6:18:35 AM PDT by C19fan

Queen Victoria and John Brown were lovers, according to Channel 4, which says it has uncovered 'extraordinary' new evidence of the monarch's secret affair.

The British monarch of 63 years, from 1837 to 1901, was widely known to have been extremely fond of her Scottish servant.

But revelations about long-held rumours they were more than just fast friends are now set to come out in a new documentary, due for release on July 31.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: england; godsgravesglyphs; johnbrown; queenvictoria; royalty; sophiecarlin; uk; unitedkingdom; victoria
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To: C19fan

He was a handsome guy...


21 posted on 07/12/2025 7:19:53 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Leaning Right
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22 posted on 07/12/2025 7:23:35 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: C19fan

It’s all circumstantial. She is not here to defend herself. I’d hate for people to speculating about what she would have described as sinful sexual behavior after I died. Let alone making it canon.


23 posted on 07/12/2025 7:26:30 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: C19fan

Wasn’t Vicky a tranny?


24 posted on 07/12/2025 7:26:36 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Fido969

“Better let him out before he suffocates!”


25 posted on 07/12/2025 7:30:20 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Nothing inflames unrest in the delusional, and nothing inflames unrest in the evil, like TRUTH.)
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To: Fido969

Victoria loved them all.


26 posted on 07/12/2025 7:31:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ZOOKER

Here’s my problem....They mentioned finding his ring and a photo of him in her casket....but they left out what else was in there....related to Albert. And who attested that the ring was his mothers? I’m a real sceptic. sorry......Authors seem to think half truths are enough.


27 posted on 07/12/2025 7:33:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ChronicMA
Who cares

An interest in history is both healthy and wise. Most people with an active mind care a great deal.

28 posted on 07/12/2025 7:59:20 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: DesertRhino
I was intrigued to discover that Queen Victoria had her own Rose Engine, and enjoyed making pretty things with it. The photo is similar to hers:


29 posted on 07/12/2025 8:05:43 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: C19fan

Queen Elizabeth I was a great one. Cate Blanchett’s rendition was really good.


30 posted on 07/12/2025 8:08:51 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: C19fan

At first I thought they were talking about the abolitionist.


31 posted on 07/12/2025 8:14:37 AM PDT by Farmerbob
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To: C19fan
Whether they were lovers or not, matters not IMO.

But I do love these photos:

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32 posted on 07/12/2025 8:24:09 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolutioan?)
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To: C19fan
Nothing new here,
Queen Victoria loved sex, had 9 children with her husband in rapid succession.
When Prince Albert died so early, she was bound to start having sex with someone.
John Brown was a lusty Scottish lad who preceeded to seduce her and regularly gave her the business mostly out at her castle in Scotland.
33 posted on 07/12/2025 8:43:39 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Leaning Right

John Brown’s boner lies a’moulderin’ in her cave.


34 posted on 07/12/2025 8:52:46 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: OldHarbor
Kaiser Wilhelm II was Queen Victoria’s grandson. a son to her daughter Victoria, who married Kaiser Wilhelm I,
Wilhelm II didn't like his mother and had her locked up in her room from time to time.
35 posted on 07/12/2025 8:53:30 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Hell no!


36 posted on 07/12/2025 8:56:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Leaning Right

Different John Brown.


37 posted on 07/12/2025 8:57:51 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: C19fan
The Empress and the Gillie? This is too much like "Lady Chatterley's Lover."

My money was always on the wily Munshi. Kama Sutra and all that:

It's rumored that Victoria was illegitimate herself and therefore not the rightful queen. The hemophilia gene was said to come into her family through her mother's lover.

38 posted on 07/12/2025 9:00:36 AM PDT by x
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To: C19fan

Probably right. He was hot in the series.


39 posted on 07/12/2025 9:16:31 AM PDT by Baldwin77 ( NOVEMBER 5-CHRISTIAN VISIBILITY DAY)
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To: SmokingJoe
Victoria (Queen V's daughter) was married to Friedrich, Wilhelm I's son. Friedrich and Viktoria were liberals (in the original, good sense of the word) and, had Friedrich had a long reign as Kaiser, probably would have made late 19th & early 20th C German history far happier than it was. Sadly, Friedrich was very sick with throat cancer by the time he ascended the throne, and only reigned for about three months before he succumbed.

Unfortunately, Wilhelm II was ... unprepared, and also a bit of a nut.

40 posted on 07/12/2025 10:33:53 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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