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Queen Victoria and John Brown WERE lovers: Channel 4 says it has uncovered 'extraordinary' new evidence of monarch's secret affair
UK Daily Mail ^ | July 12, 2025 | Sophie Carlin

Posted on 07/12/2025 6:18:35 AM PDT by C19fan

Queen Victoria and John Brown were lovers, according to Channel 4, which says it has uncovered 'extraordinary' new evidence of the monarch's secret affair.

The British monarch of 63 years, from 1837 to 1901, was widely known to have been extremely fond of her Scottish servant.

But revelations about long-held rumours they were more than just fast friends are now set to come out in a new documentary, due for release on July 31.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: england; godsgravesglyphs; johnbrown; queenvictoria; royalty; sophiecarlin; uk; unitedkingdom; victoria
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Rumors about the two being lovers started during their lifetimes. There is a equestrian portrait of Victoria featuring Brown which was highly controversial as he was considered a servant. Brown is credited with getting Victoria to go out in public and start performing her royal duties after an extended period of mourning for Albert.
1 posted on 07/12/2025 6:18:36 AM PDT by C19fan
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BBC produced a miniseries about them in 1997 titled “Mrs Brown”. Judi Dench played Victoria


2 posted on 07/12/2025 6:21:11 AM PDT by C19fan
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Puts me in mind of a quote...

"A truth that's told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent."

William Blake

3 posted on 07/12/2025 6:22:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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I am not up on my Victorian era royals. Somehow I had thought that this tied into Harper’s Ferry.


4 posted on 07/12/2025 6:29:51 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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Could this be an advertising item?? So Vicky MIGHT HAVE messed around...does anyone care. Yes....Channel 4.


5 posted on 07/12/2025 6:33:04 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Well this changes everything

it happened over 100 years ago

Who cares


6 posted on 07/12/2025 6:36:23 AM PDT by ChronicMA
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That’s what I went to also. I wanted details of THAT story.


7 posted on 07/12/2025 6:37:41 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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“Queen Victoria and John Brown WERE lovers”

Why am I NOT SURPRISED?


8 posted on 07/12/2025 6:41:09 AM PDT by BobL
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> Somehow I had thought that this tied into Harper’s Ferry. <

Two questions immediately come to mind.

Could John Brown have escaped his hanging after all?
And, did Victoria like fiery and unstable men?


9 posted on 07/12/2025 6:44:37 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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well worth watching as i have several times.


10 posted on 07/12/2025 6:45:24 AM PDT by avital2
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Sounds interesting.


11 posted on 07/12/2025 6:45:53 AM PDT by Baldwin77 ( NOVEMBER 5-CHRISTIAN VISIBILITY DAY)
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Yeah, my wife and I went to see a movie called “Mr. Brown” in 1997. Don’t think this is breaking news. I think people have known this for a while. Unless they’ve found a dress with a spot on it, I’m not sure what they have that’s new.


12 posted on 07/12/2025 6:47:33 AM PDT by redangus ( )
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She kept Prince Albert in a can.


13 posted on 07/12/2025 6:47:53 AM PDT by Fido969
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Somehow I had thought that this tied into Harper’s Ferry.

There's a hung/hanged joke in there somewhere.

14 posted on 07/12/2025 6:48:13 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I refuse to call the left "progressive" because I do not see slavery to the government as progress.)
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How about Lord Melbourne? I wonder if those two were lovers?


15 posted on 07/12/2025 6:49:07 AM PDT by Baldwin77 ( NOVEMBER 5-CHRISTIAN VISIBILITY DAY)
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Same here. Had to read a bit more. The royals are a bunch of inbred idiots. WWI leaders were all cousins from Queen Victoria’s womb


16 posted on 07/12/2025 6:52:01 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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This isn’t the Epstein files people were expecting ! /s


17 posted on 07/12/2025 6:57:36 AM PDT by OldHarbor
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Skoal brother wasn’t around yet so Prince Albert may be correct.


18 posted on 07/12/2025 7:04:17 AM PDT by Colt1851Navy (What was wrong with riminalNixon?)
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Who washed the sheets?


19 posted on 07/12/2025 7:06:47 AM PDT by ZOOKER
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I think she was infatuated with Lord Melbourne more as a father figure than a lover. He was almost 60 years old when Victoria was crowned Queen. Movies and miniseries have chaded up Melbourne by having actors like Rufus Sewell and Paul Bettany play him.


20 posted on 07/12/2025 7:13:31 AM PDT by C19fan
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