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Rand is a NO on the Big, Beautiful Bill!

- "I am for the tax cuts being permanent"

- "What I am against is the $5 trillion hike in the debt ceiling. No conservative can support that."

- DOGE cuts are not being made permanent (by Congress).

- "We need more strength of character"

- "We cannot sustain these debts forever. The interest on the debt is 1 trillion now."

GO RAND

What say you, Freepers?

1 posted on 05/15/2025 10:32:56 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Once again, your boy Rand is in opposition to President Trump.


2 posted on 05/15/2025 10:38:35 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Nobody elected Elon Musk? Well nobody elected the Deep State either.)
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To: RandFan

They have to pass something.

The Trump plan is to grow the economy so fast that the debt to GNP shrinks from 120% back to 1970’s levels of about 50%.

So they’re not concerned about the absolute number for the debt—only that it slows and eventually stops rising. That may take a couple years. hence the larger debt ceiling.

the trump administration doesn’t want to do anything so drastic that it loses them the 2026 election.

That’s my read. I could be wrong.


3 posted on 05/15/2025 10:39:01 AM PDT by ckilmer
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F’ you Rand. When have you ever gotten ANYTHING done?


5 posted on 05/15/2025 10:40:52 AM PDT by Bullish (I've never seen such morons... Have you?)
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To: RandFan
If I remember correctly, there is about $7T in Treasury debt that is due for refinancing in 2025.

Any five-year T-bills issued during the COVID fiasco had interest rates as low as 0.5%. As these come due, they are being refinanced at rates 13 times higher.

I wonder if Sen. Paul has sat down and done the math on this.

6 posted on 05/15/2025 10:40:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The gallows wait for martyrs whose papers are in order.")
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For some reason republicans cant just make it easy..geez just pass the important stuff now and the other stuff can come in a later bill, just pass the important things now


10 posted on 05/15/2025 10:42:05 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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Name ONE bill with conservative agenda Senator Rand got passed!!!!!

Nada, zero, zilch.


14 posted on 05/15/2025 10:55:56 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes
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To: RandFan

I say someone should get Rand Paul on the record on whether or not he supports ending the use of baseline budgeting.


16 posted on 05/15/2025 11:08:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: RandFan
"Rand is a NO on the Big, Beautiful Bill!"

So he'll be voting with the RATS again.

17 posted on 05/15/2025 11:35:31 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: RandFan

Rand up to his usual Kabuki theatre.

The debt ceiling is a mechanism for the left to extract $ for their graft and pet projects. These debt ceiling showdowns have never & will never generate meaningful spending cuts. Trump is the adult in the room.

To change the status quo there have to be changes to business as usual. It takes money to institute efficiencies and save $ down the road. Removing illegal aliens $, finding & eliminating waste, fraud, & abuse $, reversing the destruction of the armed forces $, upgrading/replacing aging infrastructures & computing systems including air traffic control $, fighting the legal battles to remove DEI, remove birthright citizenship, get illegals off of Government paid free services $.

Each of those things and many more will make America more efficient $ decrease spending in the not too distant future. Trump is working successfully on bringing in investments & jobs, decreasing regulations, reducing taxes. These changes will increase the tax base and American prosperity. Trump’s plan to revitalize America is sound and the only real plan in town. The money will be well spent because the result will be a balanced budget and progress paying down the US debt in a relatively short term.

Rand Paul and his ilk act like toddlers who cover their eyes and scream that the only way for=ward is the same failed path. Listening to their siren call only keeps America on the spiraling path to default and economic destruction.


18 posted on 05/15/2025 11:42:13 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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It is obscene.

No cutting of the green energy and other Biden stuff. Taxpayer funding of sex change operations for adults. No incorporation of the DOGE and associated cuts.

Johnson is scum.


19 posted on 05/15/2025 11:43:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Whether spending for Sec 8 HUD or DEI or a big beautiful wall, we need to realize that we just cannot afford everything we wish we had.

If we expect the left to cut their pet spending project, we should be willing to cut our pet spending project also.


22 posted on 05/15/2025 11:56:25 AM PDT by spintreebob
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I believe that Mister Peepers was born without a spine. He is a follower, not
a leader. Johnson is just doing what all the other grifters want. Who knows,
maybe they have Polaroids of Mike doing some toe-tapping at the airport.

31 posted on 05/15/2025 1:02:57 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and His mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: RandFan

There is only party in America and Trump is not a member, at least a welcome one.

Rand Paul is a card carrying member of the uniparty despite however he grandstands his positions.

Trump cannot sign an executive order on a budget.

The legislative branch and executive branch have a separation of power as it should be.

Trump backed McCarthy and he backed Mikey.

What were his alternatives?

McCarthy represented a majority of the House Republican caucus as did Johnson.

The 2024 Presidential election was a win for the people.

The 2024 Congressional elections were not.

America First controls the executive.

The uniparty controls both the legislative and judicial branches.

Trump and the America First platform were sabotaged NOT by Democrats but by McConnell and Ryan.

Does anyone really think that Thune and Mikey are much better than them?

Both guys are representative of the Republican wing of the uniparty.

Trump deserves ALL the credit for ANYTHING achieved in this term.

The uniparty congressional Republicans are not pulling on the same rope that he is nor will the uniparty justices Roberts and Barrett likely be pulling on the same rope either.

Those are the facts.

Trump is trying to restore the shell of a republic and he is getting no help from the Republican wing of the uniparty entrenched in the legislative and judicial branches.


33 posted on 05/15/2025 1:08:36 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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My take, this is the WRONG time to stand up and block a bill.

He’s had 15 years to cut spending and this may be the last chance ever to pass Trump’s initiatives.

Pass the bill with a caveat that they can come back and CUT MORE when they have the votes.


39 posted on 05/15/2025 1:38:50 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: RandFan

Normal folks cheer.
Barking Seals follow their masters.
Everything Rand states here is solid logic.
The typical blowhards will cheer the big beautiful bag of shite.


44 posted on 05/15/2025 2:11:55 PM PDT by SavannahWonderer (First do no harm)
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To: RandFan
I say like you, Rand Paul is a libertarian loon.
52 posted on 05/15/2025 7:39:50 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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