Posted on 05/14/2025 11:51:24 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
ISTANBUL—Diplomatic brinkmanship over U.S.-brokered efforts to efforts to end Russia’s war in Ukraine reached dizzying levels on Wednesday, with each side seeking to call the other’s bluff by demonstrating a desire for peace and casting the other as the obstacle to it.
Ukraine’s president said he would be waiting in the Turkish capital, Ankara, on Thursday for Vladimir Putin, but the Russian president is sending a team of negotiators to Istanbul, and the Kremlin won’t say if he will be there.
President Trump hasn’t ruled out the possibility of joining any talks in Turkey, and senior U.S. officials are headed there, though it isn’t clear whom they will meet and when.
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said he wants to meet the Russian leader to discuss an unconditional, 30-day cease-fire proposed by the U.S. that Kyiv agreed to in March, but Putin hasn’t so far endorsed.
Putin wants essentially a Ukrainian capitulation, even as Russian forces struggle to advance on the battlefield. He has portrayed the talks, which he proposed over the weekend, as a continuation of stalled negotiations from March 2022 in Istanbul. Those resulted in a draft document designed to neuter Ukraine.
According to Turkish and European officials, Putin is sending as the head of his delegation to Istanbul the same adviser who headed the Russian negotiating team back in 2022, former Culture Minister Vladimir Medinsky.
At that time, a much bigger part of Ukraine was under Russian occupation and Western heavy weapons hadn’t yet started to flow to Kyiv.
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Getting a deal with Z—that is to say, the Weenies—should be almost impossible.
Crimea, when ? Never, another loss for the Uke Nazi regime and their shifty eyed spokes weasel , Zman !
President Trump is setting both sides straight right now.
Good info just updated
Istanbul Talks Chaos; Trump Sends Witkoff Kellogg; Zelensky Talking Only To Putin; Moscow Hardline
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Lol! Did today's fiction piece by Express UK fiction writer John Viagra stiffen your Zeeping resolve, marcus?
Did John blue-pill you to Zeep harder for victory?
Put a line in like Korea...and end the stupid war. “Z” is not going to get that occupied land back.
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Russia demands more then just a freeze of the current lines
Abs they have been very consistent on that since 2022
Another stupid thread of hurling insults back and forth. Waste of time.
Ukraine delegation for Istanbul meetings:
Zelensky
Yermak
Umerov
Zhovkva
Sybiha
On the plus side for the US, the Europeans are now financing Ukrainian purchases of US weaponry, although some of that is from interest on frozen Russian assets.
Russia rejected that
They want full control of the 4 Donbas regions
They want to limit the size of the Ukrainian military abs limit the amount of western arms post war
No NATO membership
And other stuff
Russia won’t announce their Istanbul delegation until tomorrow morning.
Why would Putin go to a NATO country that supplied arms to Ukraine to meet with an inferior and untrustworty puppet they consider as now installed, not elected. To hear him drivel about Crimea being Ukraine.
exactly. Let Zelensky act like a fool. The rational world will see him for the Clown that he is.
“ The weasel Zelensky is the one trying to undermine peace talks by demanding Putin be there.”
I agree. Rubio should announce that if there isn’t a cessation of hostilities by the time his plane lands in the USA, the US is pulling out of further talks. Let the EU figure it out.
😂
Kyiv in 3 days!
Stalin captured Berlin in 2 weeks while Putin hasn’t been able to capture the village of Chasiv Yar in 2 years. Lol!
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