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Ukraine and Russia Can’t Even Agree on Who Will Meet Where—If at All—for Peace Talks
Wall Street Journal ^ | 5/14/2025 | James Marson, Yaroslav Trofimov, Alexander Ward

Posted on 05/14/2025 11:51:24 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

ISTANBUL—Diplomatic brinkmanship over U.S.-brokered efforts to efforts to end Russia’s war in Ukraine reached dizzying levels on Wednesday, with each side seeking to call the other’s bluff by demonstrating a desire for peace and casting the other as the obstacle to it.

Ukraine’s president said he would be waiting in the Turkish capital, Ankara, on Thursday for Vladimir Putin, but the Russian president is sending a team of negotiators to Istanbul, and the Kremlin won’t say if he will be there.

President Trump hasn’t ruled out the possibility of joining any talks in Turkey, and senior U.S. officials are headed there, though it isn’t clear whom they will meet and when.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said he wants to meet the Russian leader to discuss an unconditional, 30-day cease-fire proposed by the U.S. that Kyiv agreed to in March, but Putin hasn’t so far endorsed.

Putin wants essentially a Ukrainian capitulation, even as Russian forces struggle to advance on the battlefield. He has portrayed the talks, which he proposed over the weekend, as a continuation of stalled negotiations from March 2022 in Istanbul. Those resulted in a draft document designed to neuter Ukraine.

According to Turkish and European officials, Putin is sending as the head of his delegation to Istanbul the same adviser who headed the Russian negotiating team back in 2022, former Culture Minister Vladimir Medinsky.

At that time, a much bigger part of Ukraine was under Russian occupation and Western heavy weapons hadn’t yet started to flow to Kyiv.

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1 posted on 05/14/2025 11:51:24 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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“Who’s On First?”


2 posted on 05/14/2025 11:54:28 AM PDT by lee martell
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Let me help you marcus. No one in their right mind will be meeting with a drug addled comedian. Someone should give him a nickel bag and directions to the nearest bus stop.


3 posted on 05/14/2025 11:56:05 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: marcusmaximus

Ukraine’s president said he would be waiting in the Turkish capital, Ankara, on Thursday for Vladimir Putin

He did?


4 posted on 05/14/2025 11:56:26 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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Yes. That’s why Putin changed the meeting to Friday.


5 posted on 05/14/2025 11:58:49 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Never mind read it fast thought it said Putin not Z


6 posted on 05/14/2025 11:59:37 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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To: marcusmaximus

That’s why Putin changed the meeting to Friday.


I see no other source that’s says Putin is going to Turkey Friday like you claimed in the other thread


7 posted on 05/14/2025 12:01:39 PM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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To: marcusmaximus

Rubio just landed in Turkey by the way


8 posted on 05/14/2025 12:04:05 PM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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Putin wants a photo op with President Trump. Everyone wants a photo op with him.


9 posted on 05/14/2025 12:05:29 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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even as Russian forces struggle to advance on the battlefield

What kind of clown world BS is this?

10 posted on 05/14/2025 12:07:21 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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Technical direct meetings between Russia and Ukraine tomorrow in advance of Friday’s meeting/announcement.


11 posted on 05/14/2025 12:07:50 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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The weasel Zelensky is the one trying to undermine peace talks by demanding Putin be there.

He's looking for an excuse to back out. If he does, Trump needs to tell him that we're cutting off all military aid.

12 posted on 05/14/2025 12:08:09 PM PDT by Kazan
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The human race is involved so there will be problems. “Egos walking around in bodies encased by skin.”—New Age saying.

During the last years of the Vietnam War, the beginning of peace talks were delayed over arguments about the shape of the conference table.

“The North Vietnamese preferred a circular table to symbolize equality among all parties, while the South Vietnamese and the U.S. initially favored a rectangular table to highlight the two opposing sides.”


13 posted on 05/14/2025 12:12:07 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: kiryandil

It only took 2 weeks for Stalin to capture Berlin. Lol! Kyiv in 3 days!


14 posted on 05/14/2025 12:12:23 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: kiryandil

As we get closer to Peace, the War Clowns intensify their propaganda. They think we should ignore DJTs effort to stop the bloodshed.


15 posted on 05/14/2025 12:13:38 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Moar of your clown trollink BS.

“President Trump wasn’t joking about his Easter deadline to Putin.” - clownusmaximus


16 posted on 05/14/2025 12:14:40 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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Lol! Putin is begging President Trump for a photo op on Friday since Russians respect President Trump more than their gargoyle-looking Putin.


17 posted on 05/14/2025 12:15:05 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: JonPreston

“War Clowns” is an apt description.


18 posted on 05/14/2025 12:15:23 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: marcusmaximus

I am getting the sense that Russia just wants to keep on fighting, and Ukraine is willing to let them.


19 posted on 05/14/2025 12:16:24 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Kazan
I agree with you 100%. That's why Trump said he would go. If "Z" thinks Trump is going to take sides, he's nuts. We have no such obligation.

Put a line in like Korea...and end the stupid war. "Z" is not going to get that occupied land back.

20 posted on 05/14/2025 12:16:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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