Canada would fold like a house of cards at the first sign of trouble. Let's go for it!
Posted on 05/04/2025 12:45:27 PM PDT by Miami Rebel
“These are not idle threats," Mark Carney of said President Donald Trump after his election victory last week. | .......................
President Donald Trump isn’t closing the door on using force to attempt to annex Greenland and Canada. But he said the prospect of attacking Ottawa appears “highly unlikely.”
Greenland on the other hand?
“I don’t rule it out,” Trump told host Kristen Welker in an interview that aired Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I don’t say I’m going to do it, but I don’t rule out anything. No, not there. We need Greenland very badly. Greenland is a very small amount of people, which we’ll take care of, and we’ll cherish them, and all of that. But we need that for international security.”
Since his November election, the president has made no secret of his desire to acquire Greenland. “We need it. We have to have it,” he told a radio host in March. That same month, White House officials led by Vice President JD Vance visited a U.S. Space Force base on the island, which boasts significant mineral reserves and a strategic spot in the Arctic.
It’s been a similar story with Canada. The president has often mused about turning the country into a 51st state. Trump’s fixation was “a real thing,” warned former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
“I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it, I have to be honest with you,” Trump said of attacking the country in the NBC interview.
But the patriotic fervor Trump’s repeated attacks unleashed in the True North helped propel former banker Mark Carney and the previously beleaguered Liberals back into government for the fourth consecutive term — the first three were with Trudeau at the helm. Conservative candidate Pierre Poilievre not only saw his party lose a double-digit lead, he even lost his own seat in last week’s elections.
Since his November election, the president has made no secret of his desire to acquire Greenland. “We need it. We have to have it,” he told a radio host in March. That same month, White House officials led by Vice President JD Vance visited a U.S. Space Force base on the island, which boasts significant mineral reserves and a strategic spot in the Arctic.
It’s been a similar story with Canada. The president has often mused about turning the country into a 51st state. Trump’s fixation was “a real thing,” warned former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
“I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it, I have to be honest with you,” Trump said of attacking the country in the NBC interview.
But the patriotic fervor Trump’s repeated attacks unleashed in the True North helped propel former banker Mark Carney and the previously beleaguered Liberals back into government for the fourth consecutive term — the first three were with Trudeau at the helm. Conservative candidate Pierre Poilievre not only saw his party lose a double-digit lead, he even lost his own seat in last week’s elections.
Carney stresses Canadian strength in face of Trump tariffs
“These are not idle threats,” Carney of said Trump after his election victory last week. “President Trump is trying to break us so that America can own us. That will never, that will never, ever happen. But we also must recognize the reality that our world has fundamentally changed.”
The two are set to meet at the White House on Tuesday.
Trump downplayed the idea of using force on Canada with Welker. But he said he’d bring up a merger with Carney.
“I’ll always talk about that,” Trump said. “You know why? We subsidize Canada to the tune of $200 billion a year. We don’t need their cars. In fact, we don’t want their cars. We don’t need their energy. We don’t even want their energy. We have more than they do.”
Trump’s claim of a $200 billion subsidy, perhaps based in part on the U.S.-Canada trade deficit, appears firmly off base. But the president continues to cite the figure when discussing the two countries.
“And, if you look at our map, if you look at the geography — I’m a real estate guy at heart. When I look down at that without that artificial line that was drawn with a ruler many years ago,” Trump said. “Was just an artificial line, goes straight across. You don’t even realize. What a beautiful country it would be. It would be great.”
He trolled Trudeau perfectly.
That Polliviere didn’t run well is a testament to his ineptness. He was way ahead in the polls. Had he kept running on important issues for Canada, instead of doing a me too about Trump, he would have won.
That Canadians were too dense to understand what was good for their nation is, unfortunately, their fault entirely.
Your #1 is right on target. Trump needs to drop this nonsense.
By your logic, every Confederate Syaye had the right to Secede from the Confederacy.
It's called "flooding the zone."
They buried Trump and his agenda with lawfare, forcing him to play wack-a-mole.
He's burying them the same way so they have to play wack-a-mole too.
The U.S. defense budget is approaching one trillion dollars per year, some portion of which could fairly be imputed to protecting Canada from bad actors.
How much could be imputed to Canada's defense I don't know.
But I doubt Canada could have a standalone military capable of defeating determined foes - like Red China or Russia - for an expenditure of $137 billion annually.
Let's be honest. The U.S. keeps Canada safe and frees up Canadian budget to provide socialized medical care that Canadians love; except when they have to slip across the American border to obtain immediate healthcare for serious illness.
By your logic, any Southern Syate could have Seceded from the Confederacy. Texas absolutly would not have stayed.
Just give Alberta tactical nukes and invade Montreal.
I have always supported Trump but his lack of self-discipline and discretion is very costly. With his idle “musings,” he caused the conservatives in Australia and Canada to lose their very winnable races. Here in America, he should have won last November’s election by a huge margin, based upon Biden’s terrible administration. But he barely squeaked through, winning Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania by very small margins. No doubt he will utter more “musings” in the next year to cause us to lose the House.
Or getting zotted for having doubts about Romney? I’m still miffed about that, by the way.
They did have the right.
Moreover, every state in the original U.S. “perpetual union” had the right to secede which they soon did. Later they formed a new union which they liked better but they dropped the aspirational word “perpetual” from the new union's Constitution.
And some of those Confederate Syates WOULD have seded3d. So you would have had 10 different American Republics at war with eachothe.
It doesn't require 10,000 words. All you have to do is say: “Yes, the states that adopted the U.S. Constitution intended to overthrow the principles of the Declaration of Independence.”
I will. IMO he was much better than what “I invented the internet” Gore and “Swift Boat” Kerry would have been...maybe...
However the more I learn, the less I like.
I agree with you - we can get what we need on Greenland without any need to conquer it. Ditto for Canada. Of all Trumps' wrong-headed utterances, his opening this can of worms - the dream of a Great American Empire - is by far the worst. If not shut it would transmute into a leftist vision for an Orwellian imperial state spanning North America. And that in turn would most likely lead (after a period of decay and repression and simmering regional revolts) into a fragmentation. Not only Mexico and Quebec going their own way, but the West coast and New England breaking away from the heartland; Canadian maritime states turning loose from Ontario and western Canada. I can see the American Midwest turning into a debatable land, seeking trade routes alternately via alliances with the South (Mississipi river valley) and east (alliances with Quebec or New England as they vie for control of the St. Lawrence).
All of which is to say, it would shatter America rather than creating a unified imperial superstate. And just why freedom-loving Americans should want an imperial superstate Trump can't say. Ordinary folks can do without those grandoise dreams.
You don't know that.
I'm sure the King's men were saying in 1776: “If the states secede from Great Britain you will have 13 different American Republics at war with each other - and that will result in the end of the world.”
It didn't happen; mostly because the men who led the states that created the U.S. and Confederate governments were much smarter than we give them credit.
Yes! Alberta! The 51st State!
We don’t need another Puerto Rico ... let the British keep their lackey state.
Texas would have most certainly left and likely VA also.
Canada would fold like a house of cards at the first sign of trouble. Let's go for it!
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