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Posted on 05/04/2025 12:45:27 PM PDT by Miami Rebel
“These are not idle threats," Mark Carney of said President Donald Trump after his election victory last week. | .......................
President Donald Trump isn’t closing the door on using force to attempt to annex Greenland and Canada. But he said the prospect of attacking Ottawa appears “highly unlikely.”
Greenland on the other hand?
“I don’t rule it out,” Trump told host Kristen Welker in an interview that aired Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I don’t say I’m going to do it, but I don’t rule out anything. No, not there. We need Greenland very badly. Greenland is a very small amount of people, which we’ll take care of, and we’ll cherish them, and all of that. But we need that for international security.”
Since his November election, the president has made no secret of his desire to acquire Greenland. “We need it. We have to have it,” he told a radio host in March. That same month, White House officials led by Vice President JD Vance visited a U.S. Space Force base on the island, which boasts significant mineral reserves and a strategic spot in the Arctic.
It’s been a similar story with Canada. The president has often mused about turning the country into a 51st state. Trump’s fixation was “a real thing,” warned former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
“I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it, I have to be honest with you,” Trump said of attacking the country in the NBC interview.
But the patriotic fervor Trump’s repeated attacks unleashed in the True North helped propel former banker Mark Carney and the previously beleaguered Liberals back into government for the fourth consecutive term — the first three were with Trudeau at the helm. Conservative candidate Pierre Poilievre not only saw his party lose a double-digit lead, he even lost his own seat in last week’s elections.
Since his November election, the president has made no secret of his desire to acquire Greenland. “We need it. We have to have it,” he told a radio host in March. That same month, White House officials led by Vice President JD Vance visited a U.S. Space Force base on the island, which boasts significant mineral reserves and a strategic spot in the Arctic.
It’s been a similar story with Canada. The president has often mused about turning the country into a 51st state. Trump’s fixation was “a real thing,” warned former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
“I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it, I have to be honest with you,” Trump said of attacking the country in the NBC interview.
But the patriotic fervor Trump’s repeated attacks unleashed in the True North helped propel former banker Mark Carney and the previously beleaguered Liberals back into government for the fourth consecutive term — the first three were with Trudeau at the helm. Conservative candidate Pierre Poilievre not only saw his party lose a double-digit lead, he even lost his own seat in last week’s elections.
Carney stresses Canadian strength in face of Trump tariffs
“These are not idle threats,” Carney of said Trump after his election victory last week. “President Trump is trying to break us so that America can own us. That will never, that will never, ever happen. But we also must recognize the reality that our world has fundamentally changed.”
The two are set to meet at the White House on Tuesday.
Trump downplayed the idea of using force on Canada with Welker. But he said he’d bring up a merger with Carney.
“I’ll always talk about that,” Trump said. “You know why? We subsidize Canada to the tune of $200 billion a year. We don’t need their cars. In fact, we don’t want their cars. We don’t need their energy. We don’t even want their energy. We have more than they do.”
Trump’s claim of a $200 billion subsidy, perhaps based in part on the U.S.-Canada trade deficit, appears firmly off base. But the president continues to cite the figure when discussing the two countries.
“And, if you look at our map, if you look at the geography — I’m a real estate guy at heart. When I look down at that without that artificial line that was drawn with a ruler many years ago,” Trump said. “Was just an artificial line, goes straight across. You don’t even realize. What a beautiful country it would be. It would be great.”
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1. A trade deficit is NOT a subsidy. If we buy billions in diamonds from a poor African country, the fact that they can afford little in the way of US products doesn't mean we're subsidizing them. We're buying what we want. If I sell you my used car for $5000 and then I buy a $500 bicycle from you, you are not subsidizing me $4500.
2. Last year's trade deficit with Canada was $63 billion, so where the $200 billion number comes from is anyone's guess.
3. Canada has expressed zero interest in union or annexation with us.
4. "We need Greenland very badly." Why? Will China or Russia invade us through there? We already have a base there, important for monitoring any subsonic attacks to the US mainland. Do we want more bases? We can get them without threatening invasion. Is the real reason Greenland's mineral resources? Again, we can get them without threatening invasion.
We all know that President Trump enjoys stirring the pot (otherwise known as trolling, for example, his Pope Trump post.) That said, his hardcore negotiating skills are best deployed if focused on critical matters like trade (especially nowadays) instead of pursuing ludicrous objectives. Canada and Greenland are distractions that have exhausted their entertainment value. America First does not mean America Bigger.
Agreed. We have a base in Greenland already. Hasn’t it been there since World War II? If we want additional military presence, I’m sure that can be negotiated.
And what is the goal with Greenland? Does Trump want to make Greenland an American territory?
Canada as the 51st state is something that just will not happen. It seems pointless to talk about it, even in joking.
Trump is trolling about Canada. A slap to their leftist leadership, one they deserve.
His talk about Greenland and the Panama Canal is not trolling. It’s a serious game of international diplomacy. One that will isolate China, one that will make us safer from conflict, and keep other nations from plotting against us.
You underestimate his brilliance.
Have a referendum in the western provinces on joining the USA, each as a state!
There are some people who are too dimwitted to understand your post.
They are more ideologically aligned with the editors at Politico whose TDS makes them believe Trump is going to mass troops at the border to invade Canada.
Why all these new people in here when they should be happy at home at DU??
Why do trolls not get ZOTTED anylonger?
What do I need from Canaduh? Another polar vortex? Gotta find a way to keep them there.
There is zero need for an acquisition of Canada or Greenland. They would just complicate current politics and economics with an unknown value added for the United States.
As far as national security, if either country becomes easy pickings for a foreign power, we invade in a heartbeat.
Well, if we deport all Canadians, it might work.
I’ve heard there is unrest in Alberta. There has been talk of a referendum on Alberta leaving Canada.
Remember a number of years ago, Quebec had a referendum on leaving Canada? They voted narrowly to remain in Canada. Apparently Canada has provisions in their laws for provinces to leave Canada, if the people in provinces wish to secede from Canada.
Ego.
Make America look bigger on a map.
Score an easy "win," however meaningless, to distract from more pressing problems.
Trump is wrong on this. And for saying so, I will be called a leftist.
Can states and territories hold periodic referendums on leaving the U.S.?
Or has Lincoln settled that issue?
I hear you. We regularly see people on Free Republic, attack other Freepers for not being conservative enough, or for not supporting Trump on every single thing he says or does.
You mean like in the 2000s, when sincere conservatives were ZOTTED for daring to question Bush?
I think Lincoln settled the issue. Yes I know some Freepers question the legality of the Civil War as a legitimate military action, but it’s part of our history.
I recall hearing about a Supreme Court case, perhaps in the 19th century, which indicated that states do not have the right to secede from the union.
Alberta is real and should be a goal.
Referendum on independence probably this year.
“And for saying so, I will be called a leftist. ”
No.
Just a moron. :)
You mean like in the 2000s, when sincere conservatives were ZOTTED for daring to question Bush?
It’s funny, isn’t it, that at one time people would be zotted for questioning Bush. Whereas nowadays, Bush is absolutely hated here on Free Republic. How times change............
Nowadays you can hardly find a Freeper who would admit ever having supported Bush, or having voted for Bush.
“A trade deficit is NOT a subsidy”
It can be if the nation’s tariffs are high and will not allow American products in, such as Canada’s sliding scale tariffs on American dairy, or China with everything.
Also, the subsidy includes defense costs.
” Will China or Russia invade us through there?”
Perhaps you need to go off and practice thinking before you announce presume to be a deep thinker. China or Russia could overtake Greenland by force or use the same methods they have used on the U S Congress or the South Korean government, to gain control of Greenland. Go ask Biden about their success.
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