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Michael McCune Analysis: Zelenskyy White House Meeting (good read)
Benson Chit Chat ^ | 3/1/2025 | Michael McCune

Posted on 03/01/2025 6:01:45 AM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

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1 posted on 03/01/2025 6:01:45 AM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

Excellent analysis.


2 posted on 03/01/2025 6:04:45 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

My take: Zelensky was hoping for a closed door session where he could ask for money without cameras. Afterwards, he could say he got what he wanted from Trump without giving up anything. Instead, he got put on record which made him play tough guy. But he had nothing to offer us.

It will be interesting to see what happens when or if he gets home with nothing in his hand.


3 posted on 03/01/2025 6:07:31 AM PST by AppyPappy (If Hitler were alive today and criticized Trump, would he still be Hitler?)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

I said very nearly this to my mother last night.


4 posted on 03/01/2025 6:07:32 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and don't wish to smile.)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

I’m still reading it, but I came across Katie Hopkins take away and it is really good as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igeXjb1wB4Y


5 posted on 03/01/2025 6:07:55 AM PST by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

I thought I was watching an excellent remake of Rocky IV with Rocky kicking Drago’s butt. U.S.A. U.S.A. U.S.A.!


6 posted on 03/01/2025 6:08:09 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Schmucky Schumer says that Government "hard workers" are working anonymously.)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

He’s right of course, but loose lips sink ships. Sometimes best to keep knowledge to oneself.


7 posted on 03/01/2025 6:15:30 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

What a great analysis.


8 posted on 03/01/2025 6:15:55 AM PST by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: AppyPappy
"Z" sure didn't come for the mineral deal. He came to tell Trump that he (the USA) must support "Zs" deal to end the war.

Fine....except he's not going to be making a deal with Trump, he's going to have to make a deal with Putin.

And "Z" is not going to get what Russia has acquired by the two referendums.

Guess "Z" never heard of....to the victor goes the spoils.

9 posted on 03/01/2025 6:15:58 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
I think Michael McCune is on the right track, but there's much more to it, beginning with this:

Zelensky doesn't believe he needs US help to continue the war against Russia.
As Pres. Trump said yesterday, Zelensky wants to "fight, fight, fight".
Zelensky thinks he can get enough help from the Euros to keep the war going, and that Ukraine can then outlast Russia in their war of attrition.

The US needs to be free from obligations to support Ukraine, and the freer, the better for Pres. Trump.
Yesterday's events eliminated all future US obligations to support Ukraine and freed up assets and focus for our most important issues -- 1) the US economy & financial situation and 2) internationally, the Indo-Pacific.

Imho, Yrmv

10 posted on 03/01/2025 6:16:13 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

My lovely liberal wife watched the video and saw Zelenskyy as being ungrateful and argumentative. She saw Trump as being pro-peace and trying to avoid us being dragged into WWIII.

So I don’t think Trump needs to worry any about having lost any part of the argument. He’s right, of course. But there were essentially no optics that made him look bad.


11 posted on 03/01/2025 6:16:14 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Ukraine stands as a warning that countries must sufficiently provide for their OWN defense.)
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"And "Z" is not going to get what Russia has acquired by the two referendums."

No legitimate vote was ever taken in any Russian conquered territory.

12 posted on 03/01/2025 6:18:53 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

Apparently Victoria Nuland (designer of Color Revolutions in Europe), Anthony Blinken, and Susan Rice called Zelenskyy to urge this political BS move. This has Obama strings all over. I guess that Obama doesn’t realize that he is yesterday’s fish wrap and no one gives damn anymore about his behind the scenes manipulation. Trump ain’t Biden, and he won’t dance to the Obama music.


13 posted on 03/01/2025 6:19:52 AM PST by Eli Kopter (Gentle elves set light to lead the Faroes on the starry way from age to age - U. of Faroe Islands)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Plus, Vance was just brilliant!


14 posted on 03/01/2025 6:20:02 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Ukraine stands as a warning that countries must sufficiently provide for their OWN defense.)
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To: Robert DeLong

Respectfully disagree, their was no disclosure of anything not already public knowledge, just a strategic analysis that interestingly brought the mineral rights play into focus for everyone.


15 posted on 03/01/2025 6:21:55 AM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (C)
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To: cuban leaf

Agreed, Katie’s vids are excellent. She’s done awesome cartoons, where I first saw her work probably 3 years ago (on the vacccccccinnnnnnne.


16 posted on 03/01/2025 6:22:52 AM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.

I must admit, I never viewed the event this way. Really good read...

17 posted on 03/01/2025 6:24:52 AM PST by econjack
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

Well, it was all public knowledge, but the philosophy behind the actions were not necessarily well understood. I myself do not want to fully explain what I mean by that. Perhaps if you think about it some more you might figure out what my point is.


18 posted on 03/01/2025 6:27:27 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
"as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Yeah, sure. Thank you too much.
19 posted on 03/01/2025 6:28:12 AM PST by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: AppyPappy
The only thing Zelenskyy has going for him right now -- the only thing -- is that Trump wants to make this deal ... and Trump will ultimately do so ... with or without Zelenskyy.
20 posted on 03/01/2025 6:29:51 AM PST by glennaro (2025: The year of America's rebirth as a Great (and Free) Republic)
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