Posted on 02/26/2025 8:49:03 PM PST by logi_cal869
Testing the waters: Plant working and seafaring in Pleistocene Wallacea
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409X25000525
Well I am utterly shocked that people living on islands develop sea travel earlier then people living on massive continents.
Obviously this was Government grant money well spent and isn’t tainted with jingoism at all.
Clues of advanced ancient technology found in the Philippines and Island Southeast Asia
I believe it
Typical lame useless science writing. The headline states the timeline is challenge but the article never bothers to identify how.
Almost like they want to hide the impact.
My take, once again we get another discovery that significantly shifts dating yet we are to keep trusting they get it right.
Truth is they have no real idea when anything happened and guess wildly imo, the only criteria modern science has is to ensure everything they propose is stated in a way to contradicts the Bible’s history.
It’s amazing to me that people 40,000 years ago could master boat design, boat building, sails, oars, hulls, navigation, etc but still not have developed a written language.
Maybe they did but no one recognizes it (like the knotted string records of one of the South American civilizations), or it was all scratched onto palm paper or palm leaves that rotted away.
In one of my past professions I was a Journeyman shipwright.
I can and have built large wood sailboats from scratch.
Those ancient guys may not have had the written word, but they had mentors.
...that we know of.
If I had the time, I could cite case after case of orthodox archaeology ignoring evidence, removing access to sites and even destroying evidence which conflicts with the orthodoxy.
I believe that there was an ancient civilization(s) yet unrecognized, evidence of which is on nearly every continent.
It is only a matter of time that it will be demonstrable, and, to that end, I support unimpeded research/study - SCIENCE - absent interference from those who prefer the status quo (hawass among them).
Grant money is forever!!
That is true. look at the Dead Sea Scrolls, for example. Hand written on fragile papyrus, they never would have survived 2000 years until they were discovered if they were not stored undisturbed in an arid area in caves, covered with bat guano. As it was, they started to disintegrate after they were removed are now stored in climate controlled containers or displays.
> Those ancient guys may not have had the written word, but they had mentors.
Tacit knowledge is the foundation, passed from generation to generation, embodied in the created artifacts.
Color me skeptical.
Did they have a rudder, sails, oars, nets?
If you get more than a mile or two from home port, what is your plan to get home, if the current, or the wind, or day light, is against you?
40,000 years ago is close to Glacial Maximum in the last Ice Age.
My own theory - hundreds, perhaps thousands, of new habitable islands emerged from the Pacific Ocean during Glacial Maximum, which made exploration simpler and safer.
N Vietnamese, Viet Cong...having been bombed all the way back to the Stone Age?
Those ancient guys may not have had the written word, but they had mentors.
It is not a particularly advanced technology. It takes fire and stone and shell tools.
Ancient people were just as smart as us. They were limited by the tools available to them.
My own theory - hundreds, perhaps thousands, of new habitable islands emerged from the Pacific Ocean during Glacial Maximum, which made exploration simpler and safer.
However, man powered ships, and large dugout canoes with outriggers don’t take much tech. Navigation using heavenly bodies and knowledge gained over hundreds of years of experience has been used to successfully navigate thousands of miles of open water.
The Spanish encountered American Indians using large *rafts* for ocean transportation and commerce. Yes, they had sails.
Trust the scientist’s hypothesis. A wild assed guess is always something to make children learn as absolute science gospel, but keep the gospel out.
Trust me, I can spread two chips of pottery and a chipped stone like Tarrot cards....
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