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Delta CEO says crew on Toronto plane that crash-landed, flipped was experienced
NY Post ^ | 2/19/25 | Emily Crane

Posted on 02/19/2025 11:23:22 AM PST by DallasBiff

The Delta flight crew on board the jet that crash-landed and flipped over in Toronto was experienced and trained for such ordeals, the airline’s CEO said Wednesday — as he poured cold water on fears about mass Federal Aviation Agency layoffs under President Trump.

Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian praised the actions of the flight crew who quickly evacuated the plane when it crashed at Toronto Pearson International Airport on Monday, insisting they were familiar with wintry conditions there.

“All these pilots train for these conditions,” Bastian told “CBS Mornings,” adding that “there is one level of safety at Delta.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: srmanuel
The pilot failed to "flare" the plane, slamming it onto the runway with such force the landing gear collapsed.

How To Time Your Flare For A Perfect Landing

21 posted on 02/19/2025 11:31:05 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: srmanuel

Yeah - they’re screwed either way. Either the pilot landed too hard or the maintenance crew didn’t maintain the landing gear correctly or Delta is cutting back on upkeep of its planes…

Boeing is probably breathing a sigh of relief not wasn’t one of theirs…


22 posted on 02/19/2025 11:31:16 AM PST by Skywise
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To: DallasBiff

Training for landing upside down?

Is there a Flight-Sim Function Key for that option?.............


23 posted on 02/19/2025 11:31:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: econjack

Reminds me of an old movie with Alan Alda and Meryl Streep (spit on both lefties, now) ....

... she takes off with him, in a small airplane, and, he asks, “Have you been flying long?” To which she replies ... “About two weeks....that’s a long time, isn’t it?”


24 posted on 02/19/2025 11:31:55 AM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: DallasBiff
Why does he(Delta CEO)not disclose the pilots names?


25 posted on 02/19/2025 11:32:14 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: wildcard_redneck

One of the pilots has been identified as Sum Ting Wong. 🙀


26 posted on 02/19/2025 11:32:15 AM PST by alstewartfan (Child slavery, rape and drug OD's mean nothing to Roberts and Barrett. )
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To: epluribus_2

Wings are actually fuel tanks.


27 posted on 02/19/2025 11:33:20 AM PST by Bobbyvotes (I am in mid-80's and I am not gonna change my opinions.)
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To: mass55th

I am pleased that they were apparently experienced enough that they got everybody out alive.


28 posted on 02/19/2025 11:33:23 AM PST by oldtech
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To: dfwgator

Good job getting the full crew list. You must know someone on the inside! 😉


29 posted on 02/19/2025 11:33:54 AM PST by alstewartfan (Child slavery, rape and drug OD's mean nothing to Roberts and Barrett. )
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To: Tennessee Nana

I don’t want some pilot that’s going to flip my plane upside down not know what they’re doing. I want one experienced in flipping them the right way. Otherwise you could get hurt.


30 posted on 02/19/2025 11:34:30 AM PST by BipolarBob (Remember kids: Think positive and test negative.)
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To: DallasBiff

Wind shear is the leading cause of aircraft accidents.

They experienced a 70 mph wind gust.

Can someone connect the dots for me?


31 posted on 02/19/2025 11:34:40 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Jane Long

The black boxes are going to show the speed and angle of decent of the aircraft, if that turns out to be a real issue, then it will be quickly discovered.


32 posted on 02/19/2025 11:35:15 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: srmanuel

From what I’ve read other places...for what it’s worth, the plance descended at too fast of a rate which caused a failure of the landing gear on impact which caused the wing to dig in, which caused the plane to flip...a miracle all walked away.


33 posted on 02/19/2025 11:36:22 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: srmanuel

No, the plane was in a very (abnormally high) high rate of decent and slammed the runway. The gear collapsed due to extreme weight bearing. Crappy flying. The only excuse would be an undetected wind shear, but you can tell by the video the plane was descending too fast.


34 posted on 02/19/2025 11:37:03 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: dfwgator

The “Coulter” rule...


35 posted on 02/19/2025 11:37:49 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: srmanuel

Yes.

Also....the nose is typically up, NOT down, on a landing approach.

Saw this ...

Big Carson
@BigCarsonRocks
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Feb 18

Video shows no usual “flare” of the jet, where the pilot pulls the nose up just before landing to slow the plane down.

Big pilot error! Put tremendous weight on the landing gear which appears to have collapsed.


36 posted on 02/19/2025 11:37:54 AM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: alstewartfan

1 Second!


37 posted on 02/19/2025 11:38:25 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Dalberg-Acton
I'm giving these pilots the benefit of the doubt until more information.

Good chance they flew through a very strong down draft on short final.

When this type of a downdraft hits the ground the air flow spreads horizontally so when you fly through it you see a big headwind gust as you pass through you see a sink rate from down draft and then a big drop in airspeed as the head wind gust converts to a tailwind gust.

So you are stuck on short final with an unexpected sink rate and a significant and sudden unexpected drop in airspeed. You can use power to try to solve your sink rate problem but your drop in airspeed limits your pitch options. The tendency in these conditions is to drive the airplane into the ground with little to no flare on landing to prevent a premature stall. Under some conditions you have no other option.

This looks a lot like what happened in this incident and the wind conditions are what you would expect for this scenario to play out.

38 posted on 02/19/2025 11:39:17 AM PST by rdcbn1 (TV )
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To: srmanuel

I saw what you saw in the video, but I also saw a plane descending much to fast that didn’t appear to have its flaps down. This hard landing may have resulted in the right gear collapsing.


39 posted on 02/19/2025 11:39:31 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: dfwgator

I can tell you why the names weren’t disclosed.

Paul Joseph Watson has the answer!

“Company Involved in Pearson Airport Plane Crash Was Obsessed With DEI”
Paul Joseph Watson
19th February 2025
Boasted about “unmanned” flights containing no men.
https://modernity.news/2025/02/19/company-involved-in-pearson-airport-plane-crash-was-obsessed-with-dei/


40 posted on 02/19/2025 11:39:41 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide (Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, in the Son of Man, who has no salvation.")
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