Posted on 02/12/2025 3:53:50 AM PST by Libloather
Billionaire Elon Musk has said there is widespread fraud taking place in the payment of "federal entitlements" like Social Security.
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What to Know
Musk wrote on X on February 11: "At this point, I am 100% certain that the magnitude of the fraud in federal entitlements (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, Disability, etc) exceeds the combined sum of every private scam you've ever heard by FAR. It's not even close."
It follows another post from February 8 in which Musk said he was told there are currently over $100 billion per year of entitlements payments to individuals with no Social Security Number or "even a temporary ID number."
According to the official Social Security Administration website: "You need an SSN [Social Security number] to work, collect Social Security benefits, and receive certain government services."
"If accurate, this is extremely suspicious," Musk said, as he explained several steps agreed between DOGE and the Treasury Department for making future payments, including the use of "a rationale for the payment in the comment field" and categorization codes.
He continued: "When I asked if anyone at Treasury had a rough guess for what percentage of that number is unequivocal and obvious fraud, the consensus in the room was about half, so $50B/year or $1B/week!! This is utterly insane and must be addressed immediately."
Musk also said in a separate post that "the social security database is not de-duplicated, meaning you can have the same SSN [Social Security number] many times over, which further enables MASSIVE FRAUD!!"
Newsweek has contacted the SSA for comment via email outside of regular working hours.
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The democrat politicians are the ones that raided SS funds years ago to pay for their pet projects. Pet projects get them votes. Pet projects increase their wealth.
I kinda think when this DOGE thing reveals all the political corruption that term limits will sound like a good idea to the majority of Americans and somehow or another be forced on these crooks. The 17 Amendment needs to be repealed too. The House represents the people. The Senate is supposed to represent the states. Lobbying needs to go away or tightly controlled to prevent politicians from getting rich.
I wish he would reveal more sources. Why?
I guess because his work is ongoing... he wants ALL the criminals, not just the ones at SS office
EVIL politicians and nameless bureaucrats looting the republic and subjugating honest citizens and their progeny with a lifetime of debt slavery.
HOORAY Elon!
While you are correct about the weirdness of Obama’s documents, ssn are not unique to a person. There are 340 million Americans (roughly) alive today and (due to how numbering works; it’s not random) only 358 million total available. It comes out to something like the same number had been used 5 or 6 times for different people.
Duplicates were especially common around NY and the eastern seaboard because the first three numbers were for geographical location of issuance and the second set month and year.
So, when you add in dead people, recycling of numbers is common. Several people alive today probably have your number.
Note, this is not to discount your legit observation, but duplicate SSN is not, in and of itself, a red flag.
Social Security is going to go tits up in a matter of years, and the usual advocacy groups are AGAINST an examination of the funds? Why wouldn’t they want something that could put off the “day of reckoning” until the program can actually get a permanent fix to ensure that retirees and disabled people actually get a decent payment?
I’ve always suspected that this Fraud is a large piece of the Voter Fraud, and funding of Illegals.
I had a renting neighbor who declared, “I’ve got a disability” every time we met. He once described how easy it is to obtain payments after meeting with the right doctor.
I agree.
Standard political rhetoric has been that "We will deport the violent criminals". And that is an easy sell to the public. Only Democrat politicians oppose that bit of common sense.
I think we all know that every illegal alien is a criminal and they should all be deported. But that seems like a slightly tougher sell to the public. BUT with all of the fraud and waste being uncovered, when the public learns that the illegal aliens have social security numbers are receiving benefits like US citizens who worked hard their entire lives -- THEN I think it becomes a much easier sell to the public: "These crooks all need to be deported".
I have personally seen this. One SSN having 20+ individuals working in 10+ states at the same time. Clearly fraud but the US Citizen that is the victim of identity theft is not offered any help. Left subject to audits from the IRS. SSA will not help or issue a new number. They know where the thieves are but refuse to take action. That would be another Executive Order I would support. Mobilize law enforcement to round up these thieves.
Elon sad something interesting the other day regarding the fraud he’s finding:
“ ‘We do find it sort of odd that, you know, there are quite a few people in the bureaucracy who have ostensibly a salary of a few hundred thousand dollars but somehow managed to accrue tens of millions of dollars in net worth while they are in that position,’ Musk said. ‘Which is what happened in USAID. We’re just curious as to where it came from.’
‘Maybe they’re very good at investing, in which case we should take their investment advice perhaps,’ Musk said. ”
Data is "chunked" and "hashed"...made into smaller, uniform bits (chunked) and each bit is given a unique identifier (hashed). Each hash is compared to a file holding data already created or backed up and duplicate hashes are not backed up or transferred and are discarded but are kept at the source.
It's a storage space saving encryption algorithm widely used in big data scenarios. Almost all Medium to Large companies use it.
I have to ask some of the math wizzes here- how many numerical combinations of SS numbers can there be? Has our population exceeded all available combinations?
Willfully blind is a liberal trait. I wouldn't bother debating them. Just smile and tell them to have a nice day.
GREAT QUESTION
From your mouth to God’s ear.
I still don’t understand how all these foreigners are getting it when they have never worked and paid taxes in America.
And when the original (real) owner of the SSN applies for benefits?
Does s/he get all that paid-in money or does s/he get accused of fraud?
I can guess the most likely outcome...
I think you just answered my question in post #32….
341 million Americans v 535 + some bureaucrats and. judges. What did they know and when did they know it? Are ANY of these SCUMBAG CRIMINALS praising/thanking/helping Elon Musk and President Trump?
Same argument I had with a family member talking about trans child mutilation. Show me the proof! Why don’t you look for it yourself? Because they don’t want to know.
Liberals live in a fantasy land and don’t want to see anything that would disrupt their make believe world.
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