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What about the million tormented cold turkey addicts we will soon have? How will Trump will put a tool belt on those shuffling lost souls we see on San Francisco’s streets?
Grok ^ | 3/3/25 | Vanity

Posted on 02/04/2025 6:03:33 AM PST by hardspunned

According to recent statistics from the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) in 2022, approximately 991,000 people over the age of 12 in the United States misuse fentanyl. This data does not specify the exact number of people addicted to fentanyl, as misuse can include non-addictive use, but it provides a significant insight into the scale of the problem.

For a more precise figure on addiction specifically, one would need to consider those with an opioid use disorder where fentanyl is the primary substance involved. However, specific statistics on just fentanyl addiction are less commonly delineated in national surveys. Given the context, it's clear that fentanyl misuse is a substantial public health issue, with the potential for a significant portion of these individuals developing an addiction.

Thus, while we can't pinpoint an exact number of "fentanyl addicts," the figure of 991,000 misusers gives a baseline for understanding the extent of the challenge.

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KEYWORDS: addiction; addicts; california; ccp; china; drugs; fentanyl; gavinnewsom; karenbass; londonbreed; losangeles; samhsa; sanfrancisco
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I live at one of the ground zeros for this government enabled calamity. I’ve seen friends die from this scourge. I know many who are in recovery today.

The best recovery I’ve seen was a small faith based private operation. Unfortunately, a Bible is almost radioactive to many these days.

An addict can function and reliably make a living while using methadone.

I just hope Bobby has thought this obvious problem through.

1 posted on 02/04/2025 6:03:33 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

sorry for being a hard, cold realist but the best solution for any monstermaking drug is to legalize it and let natural attrition do the rest.


2 posted on 02/04/2025 6:08:16 AM PST by Qwapisking (Q: know the difference between a petulant 6 y.o. and a liberal? A:age. L.Star )
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To: hardspunned

It’s ok. The Darwinian approach is OK. Survival of the fittest. Those unfit will just die


3 posted on 02/04/2025 6:09:17 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: hardspunned

Unfortunately, these things are built like a sinewave. The more we allowed it, the greater the consequences for when we finally stop allowing it.

It will be painful, but we should do something.


4 posted on 02/04/2025 6:10:54 AM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: hardspunned
Unfortunately, a Bible is almost radioactive to many these days.

Amen and amen. Anybody with an issues goes a little nuts when they hear the solution might have some bible in it. Suddenly they seem to be doing alright just by themselves. (Or they just need a little monetary help till the next paycheck from the government)
5 posted on 02/04/2025 6:11:07 AM PST by wbarmy (Trying to do better.)
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To: hardspunned

How about re-opening the state mental hospitals...perhaps leasing them out to faith-based organizations or commercial outfits?


6 posted on 02/04/2025 6:11:40 AM PST by ryderann
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To: hardspunned

A friend who is a Public Defender assures me that his clients who are assigned to the best rehab clinics for long periods of time permanently leave Meth or Fentanyl at less than 5%.

95%+ go straight back to their drug.

Shutting down supply will rock the streets. Crime will temporarily skyrocket as addicts try to afford a quadrupling of prices. If they can die of withdrawal symptoms, they will. I suspect many will choose suicide.

This is going to be a massive short term calamity to help ensure the next generation is not also destroyed by China’s chemical warfare on America.

(DEATH TO HAMASS!!!)


7 posted on 02/04/2025 6:12:07 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Call Traitor General Milley back into service, bust him to private, courtmartial, convict, hang.)
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To: bert

Cold Turkey!
Listen to Yoko, feel the PAIN!!

https://youtu.be/XpxvPDLTUz4?feature=shared


8 posted on 02/04/2025 6:13:19 AM PST by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: hardspunned

Well if we dont stop it soon 2 million or 3 million will be addicted.


9 posted on 02/04/2025 6:13:35 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: bert

Real stupid there, Big Boy!

OMG! No Mexicans to roof those California houses!

“How will Trump will put a tool belt on those shuffling lost souls we see on San Francisco’s streets?”

Nice hat rack you carry around on your shoulders!


10 posted on 02/04/2025 6:17:00 AM PST by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: Qwapisking

Or you can do the exact opposite: impose a swift death penalty on all addicts. China did this with its nasty opium problem. Opium smokers gave up the habit in no time at all. Incidentally Theodore Dalrymple (pen name of Anthony Daniels M.D.) has shown that opioid withdrawal is in most cases “trivial,” no worse than a nasty two- or three-day bout of flu. Of course there’s much more to addiction than the merely physical . . .


11 posted on 02/04/2025 6:17:54 AM PST by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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To: Uncle Miltie

It sounds as though they are already the walking dead.

My only observation is that it occurred to me that Hunter Biden shows that good money can buy good rehab. Have enough, spend enough and you can be saved, no matter how far you were already gone.


12 posted on 02/04/2025 6:19:45 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty ( )
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To: hardspunned

My experience with addicted people...They will tell you whatever they think they need to say, take whatever you have to offer, all with the intention of getting to their next fix.

Drug addiction is a symptom, not the cause. Treating the mental condition for thousands of addicts...a nonstarter. Cut the supply is the only large-scale quick solution. The problem with that is it’s such a large business, meaning the agencies involved, that I question the motive of any program they generate.


13 posted on 02/04/2025 6:22:14 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Blurb2350

Good Lord!

You’ve got the human compassion of Slick Clinton, in heat, out back in the alley.

There are disgusting levels of humanity.


14 posted on 02/04/2025 6:22:16 AM PST by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: Jonty30
...these things are built like a sinewave...

Huh? Sinewaves were allowed rather than stopped?

15 posted on 02/04/2025 6:26:05 AM PST by GingisK
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To: hardspunned

Hogwash!
The last I heard, just LOOKING at a picture of a fentanyl tablet would kill a person!

A single grain of fentanyl powder is enough to kill every man, woman (whatever that is), boy, girl, and “other”, in the entire U.S.! /s

My apologies; I haven’t had my coffee yet...


16 posted on 02/04/2025 6:27:16 AM PST by Ignatz ("Look, if I offend anybody today, I don't care." -Tom Homan)
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To: hardspunned

Drugs must be expensive.

How do these homeless guys always afford it?


17 posted on 02/04/2025 6:27:30 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Ignatz

Can’t you just abbreviate the word of that drug? You’re putting is all at risk here.


18 posted on 02/04/2025 6:28:36 AM PST by MNDude
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To: GingisK

I’m talking about the shape. The higher the high, the lower the low you have to go to fix it. For example, if cartels had been fixed 40 years ago, they would have been as difficult to repair as a gang of thugs. However, they are now a paramilitary force and almost on par with the Mexican military.


19 posted on 02/04/2025 6:29:49 AM PST by Jonty30 (Groundhogs don't falsify their predictions for grant money, whereas climate scientists do. )
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To: hardspunned

No fentanyl?

To paraphrase Marie Antoinette, “Let them eat heroin.”


20 posted on 02/04/2025 6:30:52 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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