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Alibaba releases AI model it says surpasses DeepSeek
Reuters ^ | 02/02/2025 | Eduardo Baptista

Posted on 02/02/2025 9:03:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind

BEIJING, Jan 29 (Reuters) - Chinese tech company Alibaba (9988.HK), opens new tab on Wednesday released a new version of its Qwen 2.5 artificial intelligence model that it claimed surpassed the highly-acclaimed DeepSeek-V3.

The unusual timing of the Qwen 2.5-Max's release, on the first day of the Lunar New Year when most Chinese people are off work and with their families, points to the pressure Chinese AI startup DeepSeek's meteoric rise in the past three weeks has placed on not just overseas rivals, but also its domestic competition.

"Qwen 2.5-Max outperforms ... almost across the board GPT-4o, DeepSeek-V3 and Llama-3.1-405B," Alibaba's cloud unit said in an announcement posted on its official WeChat account, referring to OpenAI and Meta's most advanced open-source AI models.

The Jan. 10 release of DeepSeek's AI assistant, powered by the DeepSeek-V3 model, as well as the Jan. 20 release of its R1 model, has shocked Silicon Valley and caused tech shares to plunge, with the Chinese startup's purportedly low development and usage costs prompting investors to question huge spending plans by leading AI firms in the United States.

But DeepSeek's success has also led to a scramble among its domestic competitors to upgrade their own AI models.

Two days after the release of DeepSeek-R1, TikTok owner ByteDance released an update to its flagship AI model, which it claimed outperformed Microsoft-backed OpenAI's o1 in AIME, a benchmark test that measures how well AI models understand and respond to complex instructions.

This echoed DeepSeek's claim that its R1 model rivalled OpenAI's o1 on several performance benchmarks.

The predecessor of DeepSeek's V3 model, DeepSeek-V2, triggered an AI model price war in China after it was released last May.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: aapl; ai; alibaba; apple; chicompropaganda; china; deepseek; elonmusk; meta; morefakenews; openai; qwen; redchina; tesla

1 posted on 02/02/2025 9:03:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 02/02/2025 9:10:37 PM PST by Ciaphas Cain (Minion of Laz)
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To: SeekAndFind

Frank Zappa said the most abundant element in the universe is stupidity.

He didn’t live one enough to see the hype of Generative AI.

There is not a day on LinkedIn where some Tech Bro or AI Influencer isn’t saying “Model X is a game-changer” or “Model X is gonna break the internet” or some other unproven nonsense.

All of these Gen AI models come with a ton of fanfare and marketing but zero validation, technical documentation, or anything resembling functional specs. They DO tend to come with a biased “test” showing just how bitchin’ is their model.

Deepseek is like Napster, or illegal immigration…at their cores, they’re all breaking the law or ethics and they suck unless you want pictures of a robot breakdancing in baroque era clothing.


3 posted on 02/02/2025 9:12:23 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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they suck unless you want pictures of a robot breakdancing in baroque era clothing.

Who wouldn't want to see that?

4 posted on 02/02/2025 9:15:17 PM PST by BipolarBob (The dog didn't eat my homework, he did my homework . . . hence the typos.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Glorified search engines.


5 posted on 02/02/2025 9:26:11 PM PST by ComputerGuy
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how bout we start out own... DeepFreep


6 posted on 02/02/2025 10:01:18 PM PST by Gene Eric
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Frank Zappa said the most abundant element in the universe is stupidity. He didn’t live one enough to see the hype of Generative AI.

I guess AI has some uses. It can write an article for a left-wing online newspaper better than a left-wing journalist.

For me personally, what's the point of using AI when I have to double-check the information it gives me anyway?

A few weeks ago, I asked Google AI when Cleopatra died and it said 29 BC. The AI was wrong! When I confirmed with other sources, I found that she died in 30 BC.

7 posted on 02/02/2025 11:13:59 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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how bout we start out own... DeepFreep

FReeRepublic IS the Number 1 think tank on the internet. I’m proud to be a member here.

8 posted on 02/03/2025 1:39:29 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seeing how well the False Value scam worked for Deepseek here comes round two.

Watch the sheep panic again today


9 posted on 02/03/2025 6:28:48 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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