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The Scourge -- Or Not -- Of "Ultraprocessed Foods"
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 14 Jan, 2025 | Francis Menton

Posted on 01/16/2025 6:49:18 AM PST by MtnClimber

“Ultraprocessed foods.” That sounds really bad. In fact, not just really bad, but really, really bad. Bad on a level with, maybe, “assault rifles” or “cis-heteronormativity.” Definitely, with a condemnatory name like that, “ultraprocessed foods” would be something that no sensible person would ever eat, or at least certainly not in large quantities.

The term “ultraprocessed foods” has been in usage for a while, but the frequency seems to have exploded everywhere in the past few months. Perhaps that has resulted from the naming of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. to be the next Secretary of Health and Human Services. Kennedy has made a thing about proclaiming a health crisis in the U.S., which he asserts is substantially brought about by our “broken food system.” On November 15 — just after President-elect Trump tapped Kennedy to lead HHS in the new administration — The New York Times had a piece outlining Kennedy’s critiques of the “food system.” Number one on the list of Kennedy’s critiques identified by the NYT was “ultraprocessed food.”

After reading this, I thought it might be time for me to get on top of what this “ultraprocessed food” stuff might be. Is this something that you need to really be concerned about, or is it just another one of the usual scare tactics of the left to try to take more control of your life? The answer, as will not surprise you, is the latter.

Fortunately, I went into this investigation comfortable in the knowledge that this “ultraprocessed foods” thing had little or nothing to do with me. I only eat the healthiest of the healthy. For example, yesterday for dinner for Mrs. MC and myself, I went to the store and bought a fresh salmon filet, some new potatoes, and a head of broccoli — the freshest of possible “whole” foods. I sautéed the salmon in a pan, and for the potatoes and broccoli, I mixed them in a bowl with just some oil and salt and roasted them in the oven. Delicious! And also, the farthest thing possible from “ultraprocessed food.” Or so you might think.

And then, to begin my research, I followed a link in The New York Times piece cited above, and came to this April 21, 2023 article in Nature Communications, one of the many affiliate publications of the premier British science journal Nature. Or maybe I should put the word “science” there in scare quotes, because Nature has so thoroughly disgraced itself by falling for and propagating the climate scam, let alone who knows what other pseudoscience. But for whatever residual level of credibility they may have left, I was still surprised to learn that the article claimed that some 73% of the U.S. food supply is “ultraprocessed.” How is such a high level even possible? This seemingly very precise figure had supposedly been determined by a new “machine learning algorithm”:

Here we introduce a machine learning algorithm that accurately predicts the degree of processing for any food, indicating that over 73% of the US food supply is ultra-processed.

And how about this to scare you:

We show that the increased reliance of an individual’s diet on ultra-processed food correlates with higher risk of metabolic syndrome, diabetes, angina, elevated blood pressure and biological age, and reduces the bio-availability of vitamins.

Here is another piece from Harvard Health Publishing, June 17, 2024, with the title “Ultra-processed foods? Just say no.” The thesis, based on “new research,” is that consumption of “ultraprocessed foods” increases the risk of cognitive impairment and strokes:

[I]f you . . . eat some ultra-processed foods, is that bad for your brain health? A new study appears to deliver resounding yes: eating ultra-processed foods is linked to a greater risk of cognitive impairment and strokes.

Both of these pieces give examples of things that are said to fall in the “ultraprocessed” category — things like Twinkies and non-diet cola — but no precise or comprehensive definition. Surely nobody has a diet consisting of 73% Twinkies and non-diet cola, or of anything comparable. They must be sweeping lots of other things into the definition. But what? How are we supposed to avoid these things without a comprehensive definition?

At this point, before I might find myself prematurely in the grave, I decided it was time for some of my own research. For my first subject of inquiry I picked potato chips. “Ultraprocessed” or not? Remarkably, I find some debate in the literature about whether potato chips are “ultraprocessed” versus merely “processed.” But plenty of articles call them “ultraprocessed,” for example this piece from Canada’s Global News, October 12, 2023 (“From pop to potato chips, report finds ultra-processed food can be addictive. . . . Ultra-processed foods like sugary drinks, potato chips and ready meals can cause withdrawal symptoms similar to people trying to quit smoking. . . .”).

There was a reason I looked up potato chips first. On a bag of potato chips, the ingredients are listed as: potatoes, oil, salt. Those are the exact same ingredients as in the potato dish in my super-healthy meal last night. Could I really have been eating “ultraprocessed food”? I’m now starting to understand how 73% of an American diet can be “ultraprocessed.”

Let me try three more common items that have been promoted to me for decades as the quintessential super-healthy foods: whole grain breakfast cereal, Greek yogurt, and whole wheat bread. I find all three of those considered together in this July 6, 2022 piece from a source called Very Well Health. Surprise:

Whole grain breakfast cereal, Greek yogurt, and 100% whole wheat bread have more in common than being part of a “balanced breakfast”—they can all be classified as “ultra-processed” foods. . . . Some estimates have found that up to 73% of the American food supply is ultra-processed foods. However, experts don’t agree on what to do about ultra-processed foods—or even how to classify them.

So, if whole grain breakfast cereal, Greek yogurt, and whole wheat bread are “ultraprocessed foods,” are they part of the cause of “higher risk of metabolic syndrome, diabetes, angina, elevated blood pressure and biological age” that Nature attributes to “ultraprocessed foods”? Are they part of the cause of “greater risk of cognitive impairment and strokes” that Harvard Medical School attributes to “ultraprocessed foods.” If they are not, then how do we tell which of the “ultraprocessed foods” are the ones that must be avoided and which not?

The Very Well Health piece, in contrast to the pieces from far more “prestigious” sources like Nature and Harvard Medical School, is actually relatively informative on this subject. The piece provides some history, which I will spare you, of how the “ultraprocessed foods” characterization got started and developed. A fair summary is that it is a part of the overall UN effort to smear the West and the productive countries and companies of the world.

I’m certainly not recommending a diet consisting of nothing but Twinkies and non-diet cola. However, I’ve done plenty of research to conclude that the category of “ultraprocessed foods” is completely meaningless as a guide to trying to figure out how to eat a reasonably healthy diet. The pseudo-category of “ultraprocessed foods” includes plenty of things that are very healthy, plenty of things that are fine in moderation, and plenty of things to (mostly) avoid — and no assistance in distinguishing which ones are which. Institutions like Nature and Harvard Medical School that purport to reach epidemiological conclusions based on this pseudo-category only demonstrate their own incompetence.

As to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. — if there is one Trump cabinet pick whom I would be happy to see not confirmed, he would be it.


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: food; foodsafety; processed
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1 posted on 01/16/2025 6:49:18 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber
OK, I have my flame suit on. Because flames are worse for you than ultraprocessed food. Even worse than potato chips.
2 posted on 01/16/2025 6:50:03 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: All

Bring back pink slime!


3 posted on 01/16/2025 6:51:02 AM PST by BipolarBob (I've asked what LGBQT means and have yet to get a STRAIGHT answer.)
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To: StAntKnee; texas booster

Manhattan Contrarian ping


4 posted on 01/16/2025 6:51:16 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Well, at my age, I need all the preservatives I can get!


5 posted on 01/16/2025 6:56:04 AM PST by spankalib
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To: MtnClimber

*yawn*

TLDR and the language tweaked my senses.

The one thing the bureaucrats have never done is a study comparing a sample of people ‘eating clean’ vs. those consuming a cocktail of what they’ve saw fit to label as ‘GRAS’, including everything incorrectly dumped under the label ‘ultra-processed’.

And they can’t omit seed oils, alcohol, mj, OTC medications and unregulated supplements...

...THAT would be a wakeup call to the Doubting Thomases, including dear ‘Francis’ here.


6 posted on 01/16/2025 6:59:57 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: MtnClimber

Folks,

Anyone in history would trade us for our modern food and available selection.

Processing is big part of the reason we have quality and selection.

Maybe food is not perfect which some want but it is the best in history.


7 posted on 01/16/2025 6:59:58 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: MtnClimber

Just choose “organic” and you’ll be fine.

Oh, wait .....


8 posted on 01/16/2025 7:04:06 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: MtnClimber
So, if whole grain breakfast cereal, Greek yogurt, and whole wheat bread are “ultraprocessed foods,”

They are not.

Poptarts are.

9 posted on 01/16/2025 7:07:18 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: MtnClimber

The author is clearly a leftist who opposed and is trying to discredit RFK Jr.

He makes a bunch of bad assumptions to bolster his argument.


10 posted on 01/16/2025 7:08:26 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: metmom
I think this was his main point:

The pseudo-category of “ultraprocessed foods” includes plenty of things that are very healthy, plenty of things that are fine in moderation, and plenty of things to (mostly) avoid — and no assistance in distinguishing which ones are which.

I don't trust RFK Jr much either. It would require some time in a position while making reasonable decisions before I will reconsider.

11 posted on 01/16/2025 7:16:26 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
Article said: “On a bag of potato chips, the ingredients are listed as: potatoes, oil, salt. Those are the exact same ingredients as in the potato dish in my super-healthy meal last night.”

What the author failed to say is the other ingredients in the bag of chips. They may contain high amounts of sodium (salt), unhealthy fats from frying oil (often containing trans fats), acrylamide (a chemical formed during high-heat frying), and sometimes added artificial flavors, colors, and preservatives; making them high in calories with little nutritional value. Speaking about salt, they're loaded with a combination of salt, MSG, raising agents (sodium carbonate) and other mysterious ingredients. For example, one pack of Lay’s potato chips contains about 1000mg of sodium, which is incredibly high.

12 posted on 01/16/2025 7:18:43 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie. Normal is not coming back, but Jesus will. )
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To: metmom

Scare quotes aplenty and you could see this conclusion coming a mile away:

“As to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. — if there is one Trump cabinet pick whom I would be happy to see not confirmed, he would be it.”


13 posted on 01/16/2025 7:19:49 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: MtnClimber

Hope RFK Jr. is not going to try to impose an EU-style food police on us.


14 posted on 01/16/2025 7:28:20 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
I don't doubt any of what you posted about potato chips.

But when the UN goes after banning foods, how long until almost everything is on their banned list? Especially when they seem to support the "Global Population Reduction" agenda which does not seem good for the health of those of those who are to be reduced.

15 posted on 01/16/2025 7:33:48 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: gloryblaze
Just choose “organic” and you’ll be fine.

As opposed to inorganic foods like rocks. ;~)

16 posted on 01/16/2025 7:36:29 AM PST by Ditto
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To: metmom
The author is clearly a leftist who opposed and is trying to discredit RFK Jr.

A leftist opposing another leftist? Hummmmm?

BTW, I’m not crazy about RFK either. IMHO, he’s a nut case.

17 posted on 01/16/2025 7:40:43 AM PST by Ditto
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To: metmom
He makes a bunch of bad assumptions to bolster his argument.

Your statement is SPOT ON!

18 posted on 01/16/2025 7:42:56 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: MtnClimber

whether by design or not, America’s government promotes “ultra-processed foods.”

In our top-down, highly regulated, high liability food and drug government regulatory system - the big guys ALWAYS will win.

Small farmers, organic suppliers, etc... are being crushed by FDA, EPA, USDA.


19 posted on 01/16/2025 7:43:05 AM PST by PGR88
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To: MtnClimber

Read Dr.. Casey Means “Good Energy””. Then decide.


20 posted on 01/16/2025 7:49:22 AM PST by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back!)
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